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claus November 9th 06 01:58 AM

Back-up Navigation System
 
I completed installation of a back-up Nav system, using the AIS SR161
receiver and the Smart Radio VHF Antenna Splitter from Milltech Marine here
in Seattle. The installation went smoothly and the owner, Doug Miller was
most helpful sorting out the mysteries of the wiring to/from the Raqvnav 300
GPS. (As was Larry from this forum).

In addition I purchased the Coastal Explorer charting software from Rose
Point Navigation Systems. Milltech offers a Coastal Explorer and SR 161
bundle; you can check it out he
http://www.milltechmarine.com/products.htm

I added a Keyspan high speed USB Serial Adapter in order to connect to my
laptop's USB port. This also works perfectly - and if I want to move the
laptop up to the cockpit I can use a 16 foot USB cable to connect to the
RS232 DB-9 connector on the instrument panel.

As a final touch - I put 3 big suction cups under the laptop to prevent it
from sliding or bouncing off the charttable - this also adds a bit of
protection against vibration...

Take a look at the installation he
http://tinyurl.com/ybdl2x

So in addition to the Raynav/Raychart setup I now have the latest electronic
Vector and Raster charts - obtained free of charge from NOAA (Very easy
download using the Coastal Explorer software).

And - by connecting the audio output from the software to the boat's speaker
system I have an audible warning of possible collisions with AIS equipped
ships as well as warnings of insufficient bridge clearances and shallow
waters etc. etc.

All in all - a very cool upgrade to the Nav system onboard.

Claus



Larry November 9th 06 03:37 AM

Back-up Navigation System
 
"claus" wrote in
:

(As was Larry from this forum


Aw, P'shaw....T'wern't nutthin'...(blush)...

Larry
--
Halloween candy left over.....
Is there a downside?

Gordon November 9th 06 05:04 AM

Back-up Navigation System
 
Larry wrote:
"claus" wrote in
:

(As was Larry from this forum


Aw, P'shaw....T'wern't nutthin'...(blush)...

Larry


Nice setup Clause. I sense a little jealousy here?
Gordon

Capt John November 9th 06 09:54 AM

Back-up Navigation System
 

claus wrote:
I completed installation of a back-up Nav system, using the AIS SR161
receiver and the Smart Radio VHF Antenna Splitter from Milltech Marine here
in Seattle. The installation went smoothly and the owner, Doug Miller was
most helpful sorting out the mysteries of the wiring to/from the Raqvnav 300
GPS. (As was Larry from this forum).

In addition I purchased the Coastal Explorer charting software from Rose
Point Navigation Systems. Milltech offers a Coastal Explorer and SR 161
bundle; you can check it out he
http://www.milltechmarine.com/products.htm

I added a Keyspan high speed USB Serial Adapter in order to connect to my
laptop's USB port. This also works perfectly - and if I want to move the
laptop up to the cockpit I can use a 16 foot USB cable to connect to the
RS232 DB-9 connector on the instrument panel.

As a final touch - I put 3 big suction cups under the laptop to prevent it
from sliding or bouncing off the charttable - this also adds a bit of
protection against vibration...

Take a look at the installation he
http://tinyurl.com/ybdl2x

So in addition to the Raynav/Raychart setup I now have the latest electronic
Vector and Raster charts - obtained free of charge from NOAA (Very easy
download using the Coastal Explorer software).

And - by connecting the audio output from the software to the boat's speaker
system I have an audible warning of possible collisions with AIS equipped
ships as well as warnings of insufficient bridge clearances and shallow
waters etc. etc.

All in all - a very cool upgrade to the Nav system onboard.

Claus


Did I miss something? I thought this was supposed to be a back-up
navigation system, it sounds like it's all GPS based. What happens when
their's a problem with GPS? In that case, you have nothing, and it
does, and has, happened. A better way is to go with a completely
seperate, completely differant, technology as a back up. I have two
seperate GPS receavers, but I also have a LORAN system as well. If one
GPS unit fails, I have the other, if their's a problem with GPS, I have
LORAN to fall back on. It's nice having all kinds of fancy technology
at your hands, but it's also good to keep charts on hand as well, and
know how to use them. Most people I know that have navigation systems
with all kinds of charts have gotten careless about keeping charts,
having them as back up is also a good idea. The LORAN's not much as a
back up unit without a chart, most do not have built in charts.

John


claus November 9th 06 05:09 PM

Back-up Navigation System
 
Yes, Captain John, you did :-)

I "should have" added that I have a second Garmin handheld GPS receiver and
in case the Boat's GPS fails or the entire electrical system fails I will
simply use the laptop with the Garmin to carry on...

And of course, I carry a complete set of paper charts.

So my approach is basically "belts and suspenders"...

Now if Homeland Security switches off the entire GPS system I am f*****, but
I guess so is everyone else (especially commercial aviation) ...


Claus


"Capt John" wrote in message
oups.com...

Did I miss something? I thought this was supposed to be a back-up
navigation system, it sounds like it's all GPS based. What happens when
their's a problem with GPS? In that case, you have nothing, and it
does, and has, happened. A better way is to go with a completely
seperate, completely differant, technology as a back up. I have two
seperate GPS receavers, but I also have a LORAN system as well. If one
GPS unit fails, I have the other, if their's a problem with GPS, I have
LORAN to fall back on. It's nice having all kinds of fancy technology
at your hands, but it's also good to keep charts on hand as well, and
know how to use them. Most people I know that have navigation systems
with all kinds of charts have gotten careless about keeping charts,
having them as back up is also a good idea. The LORAN's not much as a
back up unit without a chart, most do not have built in charts.

John




Dennis Pogson November 9th 06 05:46 PM

Back-up Navigation System
 
claus wrote:
Yes, Captain John, you did :-)

I "should have" added that I have a second Garmin handheld GPS
receiver and in case the Boat's GPS fails or the entire electrical
system fails I will simply use the laptop with the Garmin to carry
on...

And of course, I carry a complete set of paper charts.

So my approach is basically "belts and suspenders"...

Now if Homeland Security switches off the entire GPS system I am
f*****, but I guess so is everyone else (especially commercial
aviation) ...

I have a feeling that your boat would still be afloat. We had sailboats
before GPS didn't we?



Ryk November 9th 06 07:45 PM

Back-up Navigation System
 
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:46:01 GMT, in message

"Dennis Pogson" wrote:

claus wrote:
Yes, Captain John, you did :-)

I "should have" added that I have a second Garmin handheld GPS
receiver and in case the Boat's GPS fails or the entire electrical
system fails I will simply use the laptop with the Garmin to carry
on...

And of course, I carry a complete set of paper charts.

So my approach is basically "belts and suspenders"...

Now if Homeland Security switches off the entire GPS system I am
f*****, but I guess so is everyone else (especially commercial
aviation) ...

I have a feeling that your boat would still be afloat. We had sailboats
before GPS didn't we?


And even if only modestly equipped, I would still expect to find
compass, log, and VHF on board which would be plenty to set a DR
course for a decent sized land mass, then communicate with the locals
to find a safe way in.

Ryk


Leanne November 9th 06 08:35 PM

Back-up Navigation System
 
Even in this high tech age, I still carry paper charts, parallel rules and
of course a compass, actually two of them as we have a hand bearing one.
Another thing that was aboard from the PO was a hand held LF direction
finder which tunes up to the broadcast band for AM radio stations.

Leanne
s/v Fundy


"Ryk" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:46:01 GMT, in message

"Dennis Pogson" wrote:

claus wrote:
Yes, Captain John, you did :-)

I "should have" added that I have a second Garmin handheld GPS
receiver and in case the Boat's GPS fails or the entire electrical
system fails I will simply use the laptop with the Garmin to carry
on...

And of course, I carry a complete set of paper charts.

So my approach is basically "belts and suspenders"...

Now if Homeland Security switches off the entire GPS system I am
f*****, but I guess so is everyone else (especially commercial
aviation) ...

I have a feeling that your boat would still be afloat. We had sailboats
before GPS didn't we?


And even if only modestly equipped, I would still expect to find
compass, log, and VHF on board which would be plenty to set a DR
course for a decent sized land mass, then communicate with the locals
to find a safe way in.

Ryk




You November 9th 06 09:04 PM

Back-up Navigation System
 
In article ,
"Dennis Pogson" wrote:

claus wrote:
Yes, Captain John, you did :-)

I "should have" added that I have a second Garmin handheld GPS
receiver and in case the Boat's GPS fails or the entire electrical
system fails I will simply use the laptop with the Garmin to carry
on...

And of course, I carry a complete set of paper charts.

So my approach is basically "belts and suspenders"...

Now if Homeland Security switches off the entire GPS system I am
f*****, but I guess so is everyone else (especially commercial
aviation) ...

I have a feeling that your boat would still be afloat. We had sailboats
before GPS didn't we?



We had Sailboats before we had ELECTRICITY.......

Wayne.B November 10th 06 01:11 AM

Back-up Navigation System
 
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:04:40 GMT, You wrote:

We had Sailboats before we had ELECTRICITY.......


But if there is no web page to back up your claim, how do you know?

:-)



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