hunter 34
 

on occasion and the owners are happy. I only sailed the boat
locally...nice boat for under 30K.

And your opinion of offshore capability is based on ...?


I just gave it to you. The new owners of the 34 sail it offshore.
They've had no problems. You can also search the Hunter forums and see
others who've taken the 34 offshore. Do some research. We sold and
serviced the boat and it was not poorly built like later Hunters. I
sailed a Hunter 34, both with the original owner and the person who
bought it. True, it wasn't in 10 foot seas, but we had her out in a
variety of conditions. So I had first hand experience and contact with
her current owners. That's more than anyone else (thus far) had.
The rest of your post is simply a troll so I won't respond to it. You
can't turn this into ASA, Jeff....and I've promised several people here
that I won't let that happen. Go boat-bashing elsewhere.


Robert
35s5
NY

hunter 34
 

Why don't you tell us how you bragged all summer
3 years ago that you were planning a trip "out of sight of land" but
then never quite got around to it! How many times have you been 50
miles from your slip? Once, twice? How many times have you been out
longer than two nights? Once?



So everyone knows you're not lying, please post where I "bragged" about
a trip out of sight of land. I actually only asked about it. 50 miles
from our slip? Plenty of times, but not this summer. Longer than two
nights? Too many times to remember.
Like I said, Jeff. You're a troll. My statement that the H34 can go
offshore stands and no one is going to dispute it beyond saying there
are better choices that MIGHT fit a sailor's budget and requirements.
Going out for a sail now, Jeff. As usual you'll sit home. Next week
I'll be delivering a Catalina 36 from Port Jeff to Sandy Hook. That'll
be a nice sail, no?
Bye!



Robert
35s5
NY

hunter 34
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
The Hunter 34 can certainly go offshore safely.

Capt Rob has taken a bit if flak as a result of posting the above
statement. I think the reason is that we are using terms like "go
offshore" pretty loosely since they can mean different things to
different people. Does it mean a N. Atlantic crossing in winter, a trip
down the coast or just getting out of the protected waters of your local
bay?

I know next to nothing about a Hunter 34, never having been aboard one,
but I have owned a Catalina 30 and have owned my current boat, a Tayana
37, for over 5 years and have sailed both of these boats extensively.

I suspect that my Catalina 30 was substantially similar in quality and
perhaps a bit less able in its safe passage ability than the H34 since
it was significantly smaller. We had the Catalina more than a 100 miles
offshore on a few occasions without problems and the Hunter is no doubt
perfectly capable of doing the same. These production boats are not
built to take the beating that severe mid-ocean storms can lash out, but
generally do just fine when cruising up and down the coast or doing
short crossings during the seasons when fair weather prevails. The
biggest problems we encountered with the Catalina were the lack of
tankage and storage.

hunter 34
 

Jeff wrote:
snip


Not really. Even though I've been on dozens of trips 10 times longer
than your little hop, including being 50 miles offshore a number of
times, I wouldn't presume to advise on the offshore capability of a
vessel other than one I've actually sailed in heavy weather, on a real
ocean.
snip
50 miles offshore.....wow....was it bad.....did the boat tip.....


http://www.rlyachts.net/index24.asp
in that case this little boat is a world cruiser too.
i have had this out in one of our (storms) fresh breeze to us
broached surfing down a wave ...yes i was being and idiot but i was
having a ball at the time from memory the forecast at the time 40 to 45
knot winds 3 meter swell with 2 to 3 meter waves.yes i was knackerd
after wards sore bruised ribs ect does it stop me NO.
when i had the cat's i was heading out when every one else was running
for shelter. In my young years i used to help man the local rescue boat
in winter (summer was easy) now that was a boat to puke your guts up in.
Taught me the real pleasure of sailing
the reason i have chosen the hunter tall rig is for its light breeze
reputation in summer along the coast we have easterly in the morning
swopping to a sea breeze (southwest by west southwest) in the afternoon
this ranges from 2 to 5 knot through to 10 to 15k if it blows.
Wind and waves do not bother me....reefs fog big tides yes that makes me
very nervous and those great big slab sided things called container
ships scare the **** outa me.
P.S does the Indian ocean qualify as a REAL ocean

hunter 34
 

Capt Rob has taken a bit if flak as a result of posting the above
statement. I think the reason is that we are using terms like "go
offshore" pretty loosely since they can mean different things to
different people.


Dan, while this is true and obvious, Jeff is not interested in that.
He's simply trolling. Of course a Hunter 34 can go offshore. And of
course it's not going to ride like a Block Island 40 or a Pearson
Wanderer for that matter. Jeff is only looking to attack me because I
gave him hell on Alt.sailing.asa and now I'm here posting normally. His
comment about a bunch of clowns laughing at the Hunter boats is all you
need to hear. Utter nonsense. I've heard a lot of bad stuff about
almost every make...even Swan. But the sheer and vast numbers of
popular brands like Hunter makes for many more negative stories than
companies which built fewer hulls. Even funnier, Jeff thinks we need to
hear his story about laughing sailors, but my client's experience
shouldn't be heard because I haven't sailed in big seas.
I spoke to Shaun off this group...he was curious about why the broker
on the 34 wasn't responding. I think they are worried he's a scammer.
We get a lot of phoney overseas queries on boats...almost always fakes.
He says there aren't any boats where he is that can offer what the H34
does at the price. Perhaps THAT is what needs to be examined more
closely....?


Robert
35s5
NY

hunter 34
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
on occasion and the owners are happy. I only sailed the boat
locally...nice boat for under 30K.

And your opinion of offshore capability is based on ...?


I just gave it to you. The new owners of the 34 sail it offshore.
They've had no problems. You can also search the Hunter forums and see
others who've taken the 34 offshore. Do some research. We sold and
serviced the boat and it was not poorly built like later Hunters. I
sailed a Hunter 34, both with the original owner and the person who
bought it. True, it wasn't in 10 foot seas, but we had her out in a
variety of conditions. So I had first hand experience and contact with
her current owners. That's more than anyone else (thus far) had.
The rest of your post is simply a troll so I won't respond to it. You
can't turn this into ASA, Jeff....and I've promised several people here
that I won't let that happen. Go boat-bashing elsewhere.

I haven't boat-bashed at all. In fact, I said nothing about Hunters
until you pressed for my opinion. While I'm sure you can find
examples of H34's that have gone outside of completely protected
waters (certainly not with you aboard, however), you can also find a
number of owners who talk about being overpowered in moderate wind,
etc. One owner's comment: "Don't turn yore eyes for a second or
you'll be 40 deg. off course. Then again, turns on a dime and makes
change. Not an ocean cruiser. Structure probably OK, but just too
light to fight heavy seas for more than a few hours."

But I'm not here to boat-bash, anyone can read the boards to get
opinions.

I've bob-bashed.

hunter 34
 

The
biggest problems we encountered with the Catalina were the lack of
tankage and storage.




The most common complaint about the Catalina 27 and 30 for bigger
weather is the oversized companionway hatch. You really need to keep it
secured. I knew one fellow who had a one piece slab of lexan held in
place with SS pins on his C27. He had sailed the 27 to Florida from
City Island several times.

This is my Beneteau 35s5....next summer she'll finally get some short
trips in, the 1st to Block Island and the second to Martha's Vineyard.
I can't wait for Spring!
http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/index.html




Robert
35s5
NY

hunter 34
 

On 9 Nov 2006 08:03:52 -0800, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

The H34 is capable of going offshore

No doubt.

Is it capable of coming back? That's the real issue.

They are designed for light weight coastal cruising and do a pretty
good job of that, nothing more.

With any boat it is important to get the best surveyor you can find
and tell him exactly how you expect to use the boat. He can tell you
whether it is suitable or not, and what upgrades it might need. Best
money you'll ever spend. By all means do *not* get a surveyor
recommended by the broker. It's better to go to a broker in a nearby
area and ask them what surveyor they would use if *they* were buying a
boat. I prefer using surveyors from out of town since there is a lot
of incest in the business.

hunter 34... broker
 

hunter 34
 

"Dan Best" wrote in message
...
Capt. Rob wrote:
The Hunter 34 can certainly go offshore safely.

Capt Rob has taken a bit if flak as a result of posting the above
statement. I think the reason is that we are using terms like "go
offshore" pretty loosely since they can mean different things to different
people. Does it mean a N. Atlantic crossing in winter, a trip down the
coast or just getting out of the protected waters of your local bay?

Dan, he's a troll... I'm sure that this statement will incite a number of
replies of course. He's not a "Capt." either, btw.

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