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dene November 4th 06 04:38 PM

Need for bottom paint??
 

KLC Lewis wrote:

Regardless of how well-built the hull is, you may get flora and fauna
attached to your bottom if you don't protect it from growth. If you're
staying in fresh water, Epoxycop works very well for me in Green Bay/Lake
Michigan, and runs about $85 per gallon. That should give you at least two
good coats plus an extra coat at the waterline/chine or other high-wear
areas. I put two coats on two seasons ago and probably won't do more than
touch-up a couple of spots before launching again in the spring.


I'm certain some stuff will grow, perhaps minimally, since the
boathouse is protected from the sun. To put BP on it, the marina will
have to dewax and sand it. What is the difference between having them
do that now vs. later, when there may be growth attached to it. Surely
no flora/fauna can withstand that. Ideally, I'm hoping that it can be
easily scrubbed off once a year and go with BP or Barrier coating
altogether.

Bottom line....I'd like to make that decision in six month, when
hopefully I'll be a little richer. :

-Greg


KLC Lewis November 4th 06 06:03 PM

Need for bottom paint??
 

"dene" wrote in message
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KLC Lewis wrote:

Regardless of how well-built the hull is, you may get flora and fauna
attached to your bottom if you don't protect it from growth. If you're
staying in fresh water, Epoxycop works very well for me in Green Bay/Lake
Michigan, and runs about $85 per gallon. That should give you at least
two
good coats plus an extra coat at the waterline/chine or other high-wear
areas. I put two coats on two seasons ago and probably won't do more than
touch-up a couple of spots before launching again in the spring.


I'm certain some stuff will grow, perhaps minimally, since the
boathouse is protected from the sun. To put BP on it, the marina will
have to dewax and sand it. What is the difference between having them
do that now vs. later, when there may be growth attached to it. Surely
no flora/fauna can withstand that. Ideally, I'm hoping that it can be
easily scrubbed off once a year and go with BP or Barrier coating
altogether.

Bottom line....I'd like to make that decision in six month, when
hopefully I'll be a little richer. :

-Greg


For six months on an already waxy bottom, in fresh water, you may be fine. I
would talk with other boaters in your destination marina and see how they
fair going "bare bottom." The actual boat owners, not the marina personnel.



Jere Lull November 5th 06 04:58 AM

Need for bottom paint??
 
In article om,
"dene" wrote:

The local marina, where it will be delivered to, is trying earnestly to
talk me into getting barrier applied along with bottom paint....roughly
$1400. Horror stories along with years of experience is part of their
speal.

I spoke to Regal, first to customer service, then to a local dealer in
Portland. Both said neither step was necessary. Both claimed that
Regal makes an exceptional hull and that all is required is cleaning
once a year.



I'd apply the bottom paint, whatever most people are satisfied with in
your area -- Good paints for our area might not be so good for yours.
"Stuff" grows on a hull in very chilly water, and will slow you down.

I'd check Regal's blister warrantee and layup. If they're using
vinylester, you might already have a barrier coat on. If you're going to
do it, though, do it before you put bottom paint on.

We put a barrier coat on Xan when we got her, a waste of money in our
case, as most boats of our age never blistered & as far as we know,
never will.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Capt John November 5th 06 07:09 AM

Need for bottom paint??
 

Jere Lull wrote:
In article om,
"dene" wrote:

The local marina, where it will be delivered to, is trying earnestly to
talk me into getting barrier applied along with bottom paint....roughly
$1400. Horror stories along with years of experience is part of their
speal.

I spoke to Regal, first to customer service, then to a local dealer in
Portland. Both said neither step was necessary. Both claimed that
Regal makes an exceptional hull and that all is required is cleaning
once a year.



I'd apply the bottom paint, whatever most people are satisfied with in
your area -- Good paints for our area might not be so good for yours.
"Stuff" grows on a hull in very chilly water, and will slow you down.

I'd check Regal's blister warrantee and layup. If they're using
vinylester, you might already have a barrier coat on. If you're going to
do it, though, do it before you put bottom paint on.

We put a barrier coat on Xan when we got her, a waste of money in our
case, as most boats of our age never blistered & as far as we know,
never will.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Barrier coating is normally applied to a hull bottom when the boat has
developed blisters, after the blisters have been repaired. Blisters are
most common on older boats, not that common on newer boats. You really
do not need a barrier coat on your boat. I would ask the yard how much
to prime (if the bottom has never been painted a primer is reccomended,
instead of priming you can lightly sand the bottom and then paint it)
and paint the bottom only. If their's not that much differance, the
barrier coating isn't a bad idea. If their's a big differance, just
have it primed and painted.

John


Ryk November 7th 06 08:24 PM

Need for bottom paint??
 
On 4 Nov 2006 08:38:02 -0800, in message
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"dene" wrote:

I'm certain some stuff will grow, perhaps minimally, since the
boathouse is protected from the sun. To put BP on it, the marina will
have to dewax and sand it. What is the difference between having them
do that now vs. later, when there may be growth attached to it. Surely
no flora/fauna can withstand that. Ideally, I'm hoping that it can be
easily scrubbed off once a year and go with BP or Barrier coating
altogether.

Bottom line....I'd like to make that decision in six month, when
hopefully I'll be a little richer. :


If the boat is spending most of its time in cool, mostly fresh water,
you might consider a single coat of VC 17 over the gelcoat. It
produces a very thin coating that will be easy to sand off later if
you want to do something else. It doesn't provide adequate protection
for continuous sal****er immersion.

Ryk



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