My head ,, it doesn't have a holding tank ,, question
 

Lew ................... wait ... isn't a toilet called a -----------

Loo
The origin of the (chiefly British) term loo is unknown. However there are
numerous theories. Some of these a

That the word comes from nautical terminology; loo being an old fashioned
word for lee. The standard nautical pronunciation (in British English) of
leeward is looward or lieuward. Early ships were not fitted with toilets but
the crew would urinate over the side of the vessel. However it was important
to use the leeward side. Using the windward side would result in the urine
blown back on board. (The phrases '****ing into the wind' and 'spitting into
the wind' also refer to this problem.) Even on modern yachts, most (male)
yachtsmen, whilst at sea, find it more convenient to go to the loo, than to
use the heads.


Lew/Loo ..................... you are named after a "toilet".

When I am out on my boat, my cheeks are flexing over my beautiful blue
bucket ... LOO ... named Lew ......... I will think of YOU

"Here it comes Lew" ... another bucket of **** in my Loo. My LOO named Lew.


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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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Benning Wentworth wrote:
From what I read here, your reply and your listing as an expert on
all things poop, it seems to me you are in the turd business to make
money.

Yet another example of proving to the world what a total f**king idiot you
are.

Lew

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You don't suppose this is the reincarnation of the Key Largo mailman or the
Speedo king do you? (I hesitate to say their names for fear of resurrecting
them from the depths.)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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Benning Wentworth wrote:
From what I read here, your reply and your listing as an expert on
all things poop, it seems to me you are in the turd business to make
money.

Yet another example of proving to the world what a total f**king idiot you
are.

Lew

My head ,, it doesn't have a holding tank ,, question
 

Glenn Ashmore wrote:
You don't suppose this is the reincarnation of the Key Largo mailman or the
Speedo king do you? (I hesitate to say their names for fear of resurrecting
them from the depths.)

No. He's a jackass of a different stripe. He's beginning to make the
others sound good by comparison.

My head ,, it doesn't have a holding tank ,, question
 

With the attitude you've shown towards Peggy, I'm
really hoping that the coasties see your turds and
award you one of those $5k fines for dumping
sewage overboard within the 3 mile limit.

The law is the law, and just because you don't
agree with it does not nullify the penalties.

Good luck to you,

Don W.

Benning Wentworth wrote:

From what I read here, your reply and your listing as an expert on all
things poop, it seems to me you are in the turd business to make money. You
cavalierly write that a deck fitting is no big deal, just drill it, and cap
it. Sure,,, and when Mr Sailboat owner is facing a wet core deck, will you
be there to fix it?

And, for what. A pump out that almost every boat owner has but never uses?

This is beyond stupid. To spend all kinds of money, drill holes in the deck
of an old sailboat, so that a holding tank that will never get used is in
place is nutty.

If you are behind my boat and you see a blue bucket and it is being thrown
overboard ......... don't come to close.

This turds for you!

My head ,, it doesn't have a holding tank ,, question
 

Jeff wrote:

Glenn Ashmore wrote:

You don't suppose this is the reincarnation of the Key Largo mailman
or the Speedo king do you? (I hesitate to say their names for fear of
resurrecting them from the depths.)

No. He's a jackass of a different stripe. He's beginning to make the
others sound good by comparison.

I agree. Just from reading his replies to others
I'm going to plonk him on general principles.
plonk Wentworth

Don W.

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Benning Wentworth inscribed in red ink for all to know:
From what I read here, your reply and your listing as an expert on all
things poop, it seems to me you are in the turd business to make money. You
cavalierly write that a deck fitting is no big deal, just drill it, and cap
it. Sure,,, and when Mr Sailboat owner is facing a wet core deck, will you
be there to fix it?

And, for what. A pump out that almost every boat owner has but never uses?

This is beyond stupid. To spend all kinds of money, drill holes in the deck
of an old sailboat, so that a holding tank that will never get used is in
place is nutty.

If you are behind my boat and you see a blue bucket and it is being thrown
overboard ......... don't come to close.

This turds for you!

====================


"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
et...

Small Sailboat wrote:

The problem, as I see it, is that putting in a deck pumpout fitting
means another hole in the boat. And holes in boats are VERY BAD.

A deck pumpout fitting is just what the name implies--a DECK fitting.
It's not a thru-hull...it's WAY above the waterline. It doesn't rely on
a seacock, it has a threaded cap with a rubber o-ring under it that
seals it.


The deck core is exposed, the fitting needs to be sealed...

With a proper bedding compound.



,, and who knows what down the line.

An occasional rebedding. Which is nothing compared to maintaining toilet
and tank.



And for what? So that a few gallons of poop can be pumped out? To
where?

To a sewage treatment plant that MAY treat it before it goes into the
water...unless the plant has a spill.


One boat had a very nice bucket. The Capt told me he uses the bucket
and throws the poop overboard.

Ok at sea beyond the "3 mile limit," but just as illegal as flushing a
toilet directly overboard or dumping a tank inside it.

Don't complain to me about it...I didn't write the laws, I'm just the
messenger who can only tell you what's legal and what's not.

Peggie


"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
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Sailboat wrote:

I have an old sailboat. The head doesn't have a holding tank.
It discharges overboard. I wonder, can I get a holding tank but
not drill through the deck for a pump out?

It depends on where you are. If you're in coastal water that
provide immediate access to open sea at least 3 miles from the
nearest point on the whole US coastline, you can get away with only
an overboard discharge for the tank. But if you're on inland waters
or a large bay that would make it impractical to get far enough
offshore to dump a tank legally, you'll have to have a pumpout
fitting.

The alternative would be some kind of setup that would allow the
pumpout to be connected directly to the tank or into it through a
cleanout port...but pumpout hoses dribble. I wouldn't think you
want to bring one into the boat.

Several others have suggested replacing your toilet with a
portapotty. If you won't use it much, that may be the best way to
go. However, if you have to carry it off the boat to empty it, you
don't want a tank bigger than 2-3 gallons...'cuz waste and water
weigh 8.333 lbs/gal, which would make a 5-6 gallon tank weigh about
50 lbs...a LOT to carry off the boat and haul up a dock.

Otoh, I don't know what the big deal is about putting in a deck
pumpout fitting. That's what 99% of all older boat owners have had
to do.


Tell me about holding tanks with old heads.

For starters, heads do have a finite lifespan....they wear out,
break...mfrs discontinue offering ANY parts for 'em. So depending
upon the make/model/age of yours, you're prob'ly better off
replacing it and starting ov4er with complete new system--toilet,
tank, plumbing etc.

As for connecting a tank to an old toilet, that's no different from
connecting a tank to new toilet. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of
Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources
of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/books...ku=90&cat=1304




Wow - that's a lot of fear over a cored deck. Take a good look at your
deck - there are surely a huge number of penetrations... starting with
the windows and hatches. Add in all the fittings, handrails,
chainplates, mountings for blocks, winches, the mast (or maybe just the
screws holding a tabernacle if it is deck mounted), stantions, windlass,
bow pulpit, stern pulpit, water inlet(s), fuel inlet(s), nav lites,
radio antennas, etc. Let me assure you that it would be a miracle if
each and every one of these was done properly (core dug out and replaced
with filled epoxy around the periphery of the hole). Take a good look,
and ask yourself why you are concerned about just one more (especially
if you do it right)?

Also, insulting Peggy, who has given freely of professional-grade
consulting to all comers here, demonstrates a lack of courtesy, common
sense, maturity, and perhaps intelligence. Please don't do it again.

bob

My head ,, it doesn't have a holding tank ,, question
 

On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:59:56 -0700, RW Salnick
wrote:

Also, insulting Peggy, who has given freely of professional-grade
consulting to all comers here, demonstrates a lack of courtesy, common
sense, maturity, and perhaps intelligence.

Bob, the only change I would make to your sentence is to insert the
words "once again" before "demonstrates".

Mr. Wentworth will henceforth reside, and possibly defecate, in my
bozo bin.

My head ,, it doesn't have a holding tank ,, question
 

Do you really have to do it that often? I usually find a woman who is more
grossed out than I am to do it (grins). Please don't tell
she-who-must-be-obeyed this. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bob" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:

Geez... remind me not to get on your boat until after it's been washed...
how about using one of those portable units instead.

Ya. but then ya gotta wash that out. I really dont enjoy swabing out a
head.
Besides havent ya ever heard of the phrase "**** on it?" there is a
reason those words have been around for so many years.
Bob

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In article njFSg.3012$8U2.2787@trndny08, says...


(Snip)

Jerk! (Plonk!)

My head ,, it doesn't have a holding tank ,, question
 

Benning Wentworth wrote:
Do you think I sit on my "blue bucket" in my cockpit and take a ****?


There is no way of guessing what you might do.

I am crazy but not completely crazy.


Crazy isn't the problem. Stupid is the problem.



Take a **** in my bucket and then take my bucket up on deck, throw
overboard. Soon my bucket is back on deck, nice and clean.


And soon the USCG and/or other law enforcement agency is
handing you a nice $5000 min fine.


No smell below, no flys below, no cleaning up the head which I use as a
flower pot or when ladies of the night and day join me on the water.


No, you just have to sail around in ****. You may like it,
other people do not.

What makes you think indoor plumbing has smells & flies?
Mine doesn't, nor anybody else I know.

These things have been worked out since the days of the
Roman Empire. It should be no mystery to a modern man.



As for the hole in the boat, core issue. It is easy to put the hole in,
yes. But I hate drilling any holes in my boat; period.


That's because you have not learned how to work on
fiberglass. There is really no good reason (to a person with
the right skills) to NOT drill a hole in your boat. If, for
any reason, you desire to remove the hole, it can be made as
strong as the original material, with nary a blemish to show
it was ever there.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King