analog bag phone
 

I have recently come into possession of an analog bag phone and remember
that there has been mention
of this device on several occasions in the past but can't recall it's merit,
if any.

Please refresh my memory.

Thank you,
Courtney

analog bag phone
 

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in
ink.net:

I have recently come into possession of an analog bag phone and
remember that there has been mention
of this device on several occasions in the past but can't recall it's
merit, if any.

Please refresh my memory.

Thank you,
Courtney




Keep it handy! Unlike that tiny, as I call them, "toyphone" in your
pocket, the old, trust, POWERFUL, 3 watt bagphone with its higher gain
antenna puts out substantially more signal for those emergencies where
you really need to make that call to emergency services.

Every phone, on any service or no service at all, like your bagphone, is
required by law to provide 911 emergency service to the 911 center
nearest its cell tower. You pay for it on your regular cellphone as one
of the damned addon charges they seem to have no limit on adding. Don't
feel guilty the bagphone isn't paying by the month...you are...(c;

Every boat, car and truck should have a cigarette lighter-powered ol'
reliable bagphone stashed away in it somewhere. It never needs periodic
charging as it has no battery. If your's has a battery and a cig plug,
turn the battery in for recycling as we're always going to power it from
the car/boat/truck battery. If you turn off all the loads, like interior
lights in a car, and leave the "dead" car battery set for 5 minutes,
there's plenty of power left in it to make hours of bagphone calls to
911.

I've also, quite successfully, called 611 to the cellphone gods and
schmoozed them into temporarily activating the bagphone so I can make an
important call from their dead zones. "Hello? Ah, there you are! I'm
trying to make a very important phone call, but my little cellphone
"they" told me would work anywhere in the city seems dead. Can you
activate this phone just so I can make calls until I can come in and get
it fixed?" A little begging helps, too. Now on your knees, groveling
pitifully and not blaming them for poor service you know in your heart is
ALL THEIR FAULT, they take pity on you and press a few keys to swap
phones over to the bagphone. You, again, have phone service for the
important calls. Once, I forgot to switch it back for 4 years, enjoying
the notoriety of making calls from a restaurant with it, or having it
RING, a ring that can wake-the-dead as their pitiful little toyphones
never rings loud enough so you can hear it good...(c; After the
important calls, whenever you're ready, call 611 back from the toyphone
and say, "This phone must have been in a dead spot you have on Mulholland
Drive, but it's working fine now.", having called 611 from your toyphone,
not the bagphone. "Can you switch it back? I seems fine, now.",
sounding as much like a complete klutz as you can. The new guy, unaware
of your situation except for the note on your account, will push a few
more keys and your toyphone will be activated, again. Thank him and ask
him why there's no signal for the little phone they want $300 for on
Mulholland Drive to emphasize the point...(c; Never sound like you know
anything. Cellphone employees must NEVER feel you know more than they
do. That's not in the training manual.

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

analog bag phone
 

Good luck getting it activated. Most cell networks won't even activate
an analog phone any longer. Call around and see what you find out.


I have recently come into possession of an analog bag phone and
remember that there has been mention
of this device on several occasions in the past but can't recall it's
merit, if any.

analog bag phone
 

"Keith" wrote in news:1157629629.343189.320380
@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

Good luck getting it activated. Most cell networks won't even activate
an analog phone any longer. Call around and see what you find out.



No "activation" is necessary. 911 service doesn't require activation.

It's only good in emergencies where it really shines with power and range.

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

analog bag phone
 

Larry,

Wasn't it possible to use them with an acoustic coupler and modem ?

Is this now impossible ?

Thank you again,

Courtney


"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Keith" wrote in
news:1157629629.343189.320380
@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

Good luck getting it activated. Most cell networks won't even activate
an analog phone any longer. Call around and see what you find out.



No "activation" is necessary. 911 service doesn't require activation.

It's only good in emergencies where it really shines with power and range.

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

analog bag phone
 

On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:35:12 -0400, Larry wrote:

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in
link.net:

I have recently come into possession of an analog bag phone and
remember that there has been mention
of this device on several occasions in the past but can't recall it's
merit, if any.

Please refresh my memory.

Thank you,
Courtney





Every phone, on any service or no service at all, like your bagphone, is
required by law to provide 911 emergency service to the 911 center
nearest its cell tower. You pay for it on your regular cellphone as one
of the damned addon charges they seem to have no limit on adding. Don't
feel guilty the bagphone isn't paying by the month...you are...(c;




Err, I think you are being a bit US-centric....

analog bag phone
 

"Courtney Thomas" wrote:

Larry,

Wasn't it possible to use them with an acoustic coupler and modem ?

Is this now impossible ?

I use mine for pocketmail. which is kind of the same thing.

"Larry" wrote in message
.. .
"Keith" wrote in
news:1157629629.343189.320380
@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

Good luck getting it activated. Most cell networks won't even activate
an analog phone any longer. Call around and see what you find out.



No "activation" is necessary. 911 service doesn't require activation.

It's only good in emergencies where it really shines with power and range.

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

analog bag phone
 

"Dick Locke" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:35:12 -0400, Larry wrote:

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in
hlink.net:

I have recently come into possession of an analog bag phone and
remember that there has been mention
of this device on several occasions in the past but can't recall it's
merit, if any.

Please refresh my memory.

Thank you,
Courtney





Every phone, on any service or no service at all, like your bagphone, is
required by law to provide 911 emergency service to the 911 center
nearest its cell tower. You pay for it on your regular cellphone as one
of the damned addon charges they seem to have no limit on adding. Don't
feel guilty the bagphone isn't paying by the month...you are...(c;




Err, I think you are being a bit US-centric....

I believe Larry's statement is correct for Canada. Any cellphone, contract
or no, will get you through to 911.

analog bag phone
 

Err, I think you are being a bit US-centric....

And without the original poster saying so it's reasonable to guess. Given
the use of an ISP in the US, along with an IP address in Atlanta it's
likewise a reasonable guess.

analog bag phone
 

Telus and Bel in Canada both plan to drop analog service within the
next 12 months. A bag phone as ANY cell phone in Canada will connect
to 911 whether there is a contract on that phone or not.

Modems are available for 3 watt bag phones. They are expensive and
limited to 9600 baud.

I have a bag phone and have no idea what I will replace it with. Based
on my experience with having guests on board with those cute 'lil do
all cell phones (they do all except pick up a signal) I don't think I
will be happy with anything that is on the market today.

Just *try* to find "power output" in the "specs" of a new cell phone.
The sales people can show you how to surf the net (while in a mall),
and God knows how handy THAT is while on a boat).... but they can't
tell you which model packs the most punch.

If there is an alternative... pls lemme know eh?



"Spammy"

(keeps the bots at bay)



.. On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:11:22 -0700, Dick Locke
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:35:12 -0400, Larry wrote:

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in
hlink.net:

I have recently come into possession of an analog bag phone and
remember that there has been mention
of this device on several occasions in the past but can't recall it's
merit, if any.

Please refresh my memory.

Thank you,
Courtney





Every phone, on any service or no service at all, like your bagphone, is
required by law to provide 911 emergency service to the 911 center
nearest its cell tower. You pay for it on your regular cellphone as one
of the damned addon charges they seem to have no limit on adding. Don't
feel guilty the bagphone isn't paying by the month...you are...(c;




Err, I think you are being a bit US-centric....

analog bag phone
 

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in news:KUULg.4535$v%
:

Larry,

Wasn't it possible to use them with an acoustic coupler and modem ?

Is this now impossible ?

Thank you again,

Courtney



Ok, NOONE will put a bagphone on their system, except a few mom and pop
operations out in the boonies. AMPS, the analog system, just uses too
much bandwidth and reduces revenue-per-square-mile. Telecoms got the FCC
to decree that every cell system had to be GPS-traceable digital phones
by X date and when that happens the FCC will let 'em turn off AMPS
forever because noone will be using it. The heaviest user now is OnStar,
but even they are moving to digital modes (that suck). Don't expect to
push your OnStar button out in the country, like you can now, and get an
operator. That isn't going to happen when OnStar cars are running 150 mw
digital, instead of the big 3W AMPS transceivers they're using now....a
real selling point.

So, moot point. The ONLY thing you can use the bagphone for is 911.

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You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

analog bag phone
 

Spammy Spamson wrote in
:

If there is an alternative... pls lemme know eh?



http://www.iridium.com/



--
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You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

analog bag phone
 

In article ,
Spammy Spamson wrote:

Telus and Bel in Canada both plan to drop analog service within the
next 12 months. A bag phone as ANY cell phone in Canada will connect
to 911 whether there is a contract on that phone or not.

Modems are available for 3 watt bag phones. They are expensive and
limited to 9600 baud.

I have a bag phone and have no idea what I will replace it with. Based
on my experience with having guests on board with those cute 'lil do
all cell phones (they do all except pick up a signal) I don't think I
will be happy with anything that is on the market today.

Just *try* to find "power output" in the "specs" of a new cell phone.
The sales people can show you how to surf the net (while in a mall),
and God knows how handy THAT is while on a boat).... but they can't
tell you which model packs the most punch.

If there is an alternative... pls lemme know eh?



"Spammy"

(keeps the bots at bay)


There are 3 Watt Digital 800 Mhz Cellphones around if you know where
to look for them. We use them a lot up here in Alaska for RemoteSite
Cabin Comms, as none of the AMPS Bag Phones are allowed to be Activated
on our networks anymore. Other options are also available, like Booster
Amps for DualBand and TriBand Cell/PCS phones that have External Antenna
Connections, and are capable of 3 watts on each band. There are also
Base Cradles that allow Handheld Cellphones to be used with RJ11 Devices
as if they were wired network devices. Fax Machines, Modems, Answering
Machines, Cordless Phones, ect. You just have to look around a bit more
than going to RadioShack and talking to a SalesDroid. I have a Nokia
Handheld, connected to a BaseCradle that feeds one of my local PBX's
LoopStart FXS Outside Line inputs, and it has a Booster Amp driving
a 10db Panel antenna up on the roof, that connects to my CellTower
16 miles away. I get AllBars, and DigitalD on the system. This is my
backup Phoneline when the Microwave System that brings in our 2ea. T1
Lines goes down.

Bruce in alaska been there, engineer that, works good......
--
add a 2 before @

analog bag phone
 

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 03:45:55 GMT, Bruce in Alaska
wrote:


There are 3 Watt Digital 800 Mhz Cellphones around

//*snip


'ta Bruce, good info. Seen that, gonna dooit!


"Spammy"

analog bag phone
 

I still have but no longer use a 3W Panasonic from the late 1980's.
Whenever I used it people would be knocked over by the sound quality
which was far better than any landline phones. I miss using that big
sucker. But now it is only useful as an exhibit at the Smithsonian.

analog bag phone
 

Steven Shelikoff wrote in
:

They specify max power output because in operation, they actually
output
much less most of the time. They adjust the power output to the
minimum
required to reach the cell tower in order to extend battery life.
You'll notice a big difference in battery life if you normally use your
phone in an area with "1 bar" signal strength vs. all the bars lit.

Well, that's the official story at least. The actual power output IS
controlled from the cell, but the reason has nothing to do with your
battery. They could care less. It's about trying to maximize the number
of phone minutes/hour/square mile....the profit motive is strong.....

The old cells are all reduced to minicells, their powerful 500' antenna
panels that used to stretch out the miles to your trusty ol' beast, are
now reduced to little highly directional panels pointed DOWN from,
perhaps, 50-100' around the base of the old towers. New towers, the
microcells, are about has high as a tree and have a range to your little
toyphone's picopowered transmitter, which maxes out at 150 milliwatts,
now, so even if you don't make a tower, you don't make a lot of noise to
the other towers, jamming the channel we can sell to 24
users/sector/channel/tower...lots of cell minutes/mile.

More people, more money....simple.



Putting out the minimum required power is also a good idea since most
new phones are held right at your head.


Ah, I see the cellular propaganda campaign has had the desired effect,
getting the users to accept, "for their own good", lower and lower
transmitter power levels with poorer and poorer coverage that must be
closer and closer to a cell for it to function. This would all be fine
if there were a grid of cell towers 2 miles apart. There isn't so the
tiny transmitters running wide open picopower now have huge gaps, dead
zones, in the spaces the towers never got erected in for one reason or
the other, mostly to do with m-o-n-e-y.


But, all this will soon be as moot as the bagphone on AMPS:
http://telephonyonline.com/wireless/...llular_013006/
You'll simply ignore the cellular ripoff artists and use VoIP over your
wireless LAN to services like Skype, which works great, even in its
infancy. The companies, as you can see from this website, are fed up
standing in the windows of the offices just to make a cellphone call.
They want wireless phone service throughout the plant, offices, nooks and
crannies. They'll soon have it:
http://www.netgear.com/Products/CommunicationsVoIP.aspx
Fits right in your pocket....no cellphone company, really CHEAP
interconnects (many are free), no computer necessary. It connects
directly to any wifi 802.11b/g router to Skype across the planet. My
Charleston Skype phone number costs me $28/YEAR! A $10 outgoing charge
to my account with my credit card and I'm ready to call most phones on
the planet. Worked great to my buddy's cellphone number in
Bahrain....25c/min...NOT $3.49! Most of the larger countries are
$US2.1c/min and NO MONTHLY FEES OR FUNNY BUSINESS CHARGES...

Skype works great at any wifi-connected marina. If your friends and
family are also on Skype with their computers, you can talk from anywhere
to anywhere for FREE for as long as you like....(c;

If I were cellular, I'd be afraid....very afraid.

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

analog bag phone
 

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:47:08 GMT, "Gordon Wedman"
wrote:


"Dick Locke" wrote in message


I believe Larry's statement is correct for Canada. Any cellphone, contract
or no, will get you through to 911.



OK, two countries. I don't think any other cruising destinations use
911 for emergencies.

analog bag phone
 

3 watt AMPS phones are incredibly useful. It's all about bandwidth,
transmit power, and a decent antenna.

I'm saddened to hear the AMPS service is going to be discontinued, as I
have been running a 3watt bagphone 24/7 through a 4 foot Shakespeare
external antenna (3 or 6 db gain?) mounted on the sternrail of my boat
since 1991, using ship's 12v power, as my "home" phone. It's worked
great, haven't had a dropped call or "butt-in" ever, and have gotten
service up to 25 miles off the coast. Analog doesn't "click off"; if
the signal gets marginal, there's just more hash and static, like an AM
radio. Also don't have trouble with "grabby" Mexican networks here in
Southern California, which will "steal" your signal in mixed waters
near the border, and make a digital phone useless. Guess they're
digital only.

A few years back I discovered the NAM module in my Technophone is in
the handset, not the aluminum transciever box, so I bought two more
"antique" Technophones on EBay for $20, keep them in my cars as 911
devices, and switch the handset for my "live" one on long trips, to
stay in touch. They use old "brick" camcorder batteries, so that's not
been a problem. I'm into desert exploring, and with an 8 inch(?)
rubber ducky antenna, using a Jeep hood as a counterpoise, have been
able to punch out to towers when the pocket cellphone folks can't get a
signal at all. Once made a (marginally intelligible) call from a
remote mountaintop where the nearest tower was over 40 miles away (but
line-of-sight), technically impossible using digital.

The other posters here are right about not being able to sign up a new
AMPS phone; I chatted with my service about changing plans, and they
said thay haven't accepted new analog subscribers for years, don't know
anybody who does. I'm still with them paying a premium price (about
$60/month, with no minutes, 100% roam surcharge because I moved out of
my home range years ago) only because I'm now their oldest continuous
subscriber and a legacy. I signed with them when they were literally a
mom and pop startup in Woodland Hills, now they're a major SoCal
player.

I haven't figured out what to do come March 2008, maybe go Iridium or
Globalstar, although running one 24/7 standby might be a problem, and
I've heard from users the service is less than stellar. Maybe
something better will come along by then.

analog bag phone
 

Why in the world would you want a 911 only cell phone on the water,
when you should have a VHF, preferable interfaced with a GPS to call
for help?

analog bag phone
 

"Mark" wrote in news:1157696759.948040.242390
@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

I'm saddened to hear the AMPS service is going to be discontinued

Mark, have you noticed a new carrier tactic of NOT answering calls from the
old AMPS phones to 611 or *611? Both AMPS carriers in Charleston, Verizon
and Alltel no longer answer the 611 calls. When I dial 611 from any of the
AMPS bagphones in my various vehicles, it connects, then simply disconnects
on the first ring.

I suppose it has to do with people calling them to get them to put the old
girls back on their systems, and their not wanting to have to answer such
calls....so they simply refuse to answer the phones and hang up on them.

Pity. You're right about QUALITY...None of the little toyphones will ever
sound anywhere near as good as the narrowband FM radios in a trusty old
Motorola bagphone or carphone. Those days seem over.



--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

analog bag phone
 

"Keith" wrote:

Why in the world would you want a 911 only cell phone on the water,
when you should have a VHF, preferable interfaced with a GPS to call
for help?

He said that they were for his cars. Read for content instead of just
reacting.

analog bag phone
 

You mean this quote, Rosalie? "Every boat, car and truck should have a
cigarette lighter-powered ol'
reliable bagphone stashed away in it somewhere."

I believe YOU should read it, and figure out what I'm responding to.

Rosalie B. wrote:
"Keith" wrote:

Why in the world would you want a 911 only cell phone on the water,
when you should have a VHF, preferable interfaced with a GPS to call
for help?

He said that they were for his cars. Read for content instead of just
reacting.

analog bag phone
 

"Keith" wrote in
oups.com:

Why in the world would you want a 911 only cell phone on the water,
when you should have a VHF, preferable interfaced with a GPS to call
for help?



You're 20 miles off the SC coast. A thunderstorm cell snuck up on you,
we have them all summer, and dismasted you. For some unknown reason, the
diesel won't start. Maybe it got flooded while sailing when water backed
up into the exhaust over the anti-siphon loop heeled over, who knows.

You're a LONG way from Charleston or Beaufort. The mast, now hanging
under the boat by its rigging, is where the VHF antenna is pointed
towards the sea floor. You rig a temporary antenna. (Name 5 boats that
have temporary antennas in your marina. Ask around.) The VHF range is
now reduced from 30 miles to 3 miles. A coathanger wire stuck in the
back of the radio at the nav station doesn't have much range. You call
and call...noone is fishing in your range circle, so noone answers the
call. CG is way out of your range, so noone hears you. You're not near
any shipping lanes into Charleston or Savannah, so they're not going to
hear you.

You try your blazingly powerful .15 watt toyphone with the camera,
internet in color and video games. Nope...it's not within ITS two mile
range of a cell tower. The cell towers are along US 17 more miles inland
than your toyphone could reach by standing on the deckhouse.

You go below remembering that old bagphone some idiot on the internet
talked you into buying for $1 from Goodwill's Thrift Shop. You blow the
dust off it and plug it into the cig lighter plug in the cockpit. You
flip up its 3db antenna duckie and turn it on. A miracle happens as it
logs onto its AMPS tower that sits, nearly abandoned, 24 miles away on Mr
William's farm. You press 9-1-1-SEND and ask the emergency operator to
connect you to the CG. Stunned anyone would still have such a relic on a
boat, the Coasties are, at first, skeptical you are for real. However,
after having their asses kicked for killing 3 boys and an idiot sailor
aboard "Morning Dew" on the Charleston Jetties, they're forced to send
out the helo to help you.

That bagphone just may have saved your ass....maybe not. Geez, man,
they're only $1. Noone wants them....except you, sitting in your
disabled boat, waiting for the helo to arrive......

See why now?

Actually a 406 Mhz GPS-enhanced EPIRB is much better than a bagphone.
But, not many boats traveling up and down the coast have an extra 800 to
1600 dollars to spend on safety equipment they've convinced themselves
they'll never use.
http://www.shipstore.com/SS/HTML/ACR/ACR2776.html
http://www.watersports.alphanautical...duct_info.php?
products_id=892



--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

analog bag phone
 

"Keith" wrote:

You mean this quote, Rosalie? "Every boat, car and truck should have a
cigarette lighter-powered ol'
reliable bagphone stashed away in it somewhere."

Who wrote that?

I believe YOU should read it, and figure out what I'm responding to.

I shouldn't have to figure out what you were responding to - and I
wouldn't have to if you quoted some small part of what it was.

The post right above your post said
!
!A few years back I discovered the NAM module in my Technophone is in
!the handset, not the aluminum transciever box, so I bought two more
!"antique" Technophones on EBay for $20, keep them in my cars as 911
!devices, and switch the handset for my "live" one on long trips, to
!stay in touch. They use old "brick" camcorder batteries, so that's
!not been a problem. I'm into desert exploring, and with an 8inch(?)
!rubber ducky antenna, using a Jeep hood as a counterpoise, have been
!able to punch out to towers when the pocket cellphone folks can't
!get a signal at all. Once made a (marginally intelligible) callfrom
!a remote mountaintop where the nearest tower was over 40 miles away
!(but line-of-sight), technically impossible using digital.

I don't see the 'every boat.. should have' quote anywhere, so I've
either deleted it, or it was way back in the thread.

Rosalie B. wrote:
"Keith" wrote:

Why in the world would you want a 911 only cell phone on the water,
when you should have a VHF, preferable interfaced with a GPS to call
for help?

He said that they were for his cars. Read for content instead of just
reacting.

analog bag phone
 

Larry wrote:
"Keith" wrote in
oups.com:

Why in the world would you want a 911 only cell phone on the water,
when you should have a VHF, preferable interfaced with a GPS to call
for help?



You're 20 miles off the SC coast. A thunderstorm cell snuck up on you,
we have them all summer, and dismasted you. For some unknown reason, the
diesel won't start. Maybe it got flooded while sailing when water backed
up into the exhaust over the anti-siphon loop heeled over, who knows.

...


I actually had a experience such as this, though not as extreme.

It was the during the first day of the delivery of our new catamaran
from Whitby (outside of Toronto) towards the Erie Canal in Oswego. We
were powering across Lake Ontario in large following seas, surfing at
13+ knots. The mast was down in preparation for the canal. After
doing the first 50 miles in about 7 hours, both engines started
cutting out. I, of course, was completely unfamiliar with the new
Yanmars.

The although the VHF antenna was hooked up, it's radiation pattern is
a disk, so most of the signal was going up or down. This concept
eluded me until the moment we raised the the mast and it suddenly hit
me why the lock tenders never heard the fixed VHF. Since then I've
always carried an emergency antenna. However, placed on deck, the
line of sight would only have been a few miles and since the lake
appeared completely devoid of life, its not clear we could have
summoned help.

The bag phone however, had a clear signal 60 miles to (I assume) the
CN tower in Toronto. The factory folks advised me that the rough
passage had probably loosened some sludge which clogged the
anti-siphon valves. I kept the engines going by manually pumping the
fuel pumps, and when we made Oswego we found that indeed the valves
were clogged. We never determined if it was manufacturing debris in
the tank, or a bad load of fuel, but we haven't had a fuel related
problem since.

analog bag phone
 

Steven Shelikoff wrote in
:

Since the battery life of current phones is probably
5x better than your phone from the late 1980s it may be a tradeoff
you're willing to make.


"Battery life" in the old bagphones in all my vehicles isn't an issue.
They ALL have cigarette lighter plugs to power them. Batteries left for
years in the trunk until you need them are NEVER going to be usable, hence,
I only get ciggie plug-powered phones for emergency comms.

Even a "dead" car battery will run a 3W cellphone IF you take all the loads
off it and let it sit for 10 minutes to recover what little acid bath is
still in the dead cell(s). This is plenty to call 911, unless the battery
explodes, in which case you'd swap (in a boat) to the other battery bank or
(in a car/truck) to another car you flagged down using his power supply.



--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

analog bag phone
 

Steven Shelikoff wrote in
:

All of this comparison to the old analog phones is moot anyway since
they won't even be worth $1 after next year because there won't be
anything they can connect to.



I've been hearing this for over 10 years, now. The turn off date is in
2008, not 2007. It's 2006 in South Carolina at the moment. Of course,
that date has been pushed back many times...(c;

For $1 you can stand to take that chance.

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

analog bag phone
 

Larry wrote:
Mark, have you noticed a new carrier tactic of NOT answering calls from the
old AMPS phones to 611 or *611?

Just tried it, roaming in San Diego. They answered.

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On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:36:09 -0400, Larry wrote:

Pity. You're right about QUALITY...None of the little toyphones will ever
sound anywhere near as good as the narrowband FM radios in a trusty old
Motorola bagphone or carphone. Those days seem over.

Get over it Larry, nothing will *ever* sound as good as a Collins
KWS-1 on 75 meter AM phone either, but those days are pretty much gone
also.

Times change, we change along with them.

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Wayne.B wrote in
:

Get over it Larry, nothing will *ever* sound as good as a Collins
KWS-1 on 75 meter AM phone either, but those days are pretty much gone
also.

Times change, we change along with them.



Obviously, you've never tried to wedge yourself into 75M AM on 3895...KWS
or no KWS. Of course, that rig would be "underpowered" on that
frequency...(c; Those boys are in broadcasting.

I'm all spoiled, now. I just got offline with a friend in Okinawa on
Skype. Life IS different, now. We're no longer slaves to Mother Bell
and the Telecoms. I change along with them, too.

75M AM was alive and well last time I listened to the monologgers, 40M,
too, in the day.

Change came quite natural to me. I was the first ASCII teletype station
in 4-land, on the air 15 seconds before it was legal at midnight just for
those braggin' rights. We had someone calling CQ ASCII in every call
district. Listen above 14.100 to the ASCII station, now on Packet.
You'll find them from 14.100 to 14.125 Mhz. I'm one of the reasons why,
much to the dismay of our Canadian friends who mistakenly thought no US
station would ever try to operate in the "Canadian Phone Band". They
were wrong, of course, and their jamming went on for years attempting to
run us off, which only hardened our position. You'll now find Canadians
fully integrated into the fun on ASCII/Packet above 14.100 Mhz. I was
there at its inception as WB4THE, at the time. I was also early on SSTV,
but soon lost interest as all ham equipment looks, basically, alike and
hams, as a group are BUTT UGLY. Go to any hamfest and see for yourself.

The old analog bagphone still has a place in emergency comms as long as
the towers are on the air. I won't travel without one.

AMPS is "new" compared to my battery-hoggin' old IMTS Carphone with the
rotary dial under the dash and the beast in the trunk. Someone uploaded
some old Broderick Crawford cop shows and early Perry Mason TV shows to
alt.binaries old time TV groups not long ago. Under the dash was my same
Carphones, used in the show. Ahh...those WERE the days!

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3 watt booster for Nokia ( analog bag phone)
 

Here's a 3 watt booster for Nokia cell phones.

http://pluscellular.com/nokia2.htm

ExPro 505DB Full Duplex 3 Watt Booster Kit

The ExPro 505DB Full Duplex Antenna Booster solves major problems
encountered by cellular phones used while driving, such as, unstable
reception, unclear vocal quality, difficulty accessing calls or calling
out, and even calls being disconnected. The ExPro 505DB will boost
your handheld cell phone to a full 3 watts.

3 watt booster for Nokia ( analog bag phone)
 

In article ,
(2462) wrote:

Here's a 3 watt booster for Nokia cell phones.

http://pluscellular.com/nokia2.htm

ExPro 505DB Full Duplex 3 Watt Booster Kit

The ExPro 505DB Full Duplex Antenna Booster solves major problems
encountered by cellular phones used while driving, such as, unstable
reception, unclear vocal quality, difficulty accessing calls or calling
out, and even calls being disconnected. The ExPro 505DB will boost
your handheld cell phone to a full 3 watts.


All the above is TRUE, EXCEPT, the Output Power of a cellphone is not
controlled by the Cellphone itself, but by telecommand from the Cellsite
that it is communicating with. ALL Cellphones, even PCS Cellphones, use
this Subscriber Power Control System, and you, as a user, have NO control
over that part of the system. So you may have a 3 Watt Capability, but
unless your in a rural area, with very LARGE Cells, or Off-Shore, and
far from the Cellsite, all that power isn't even being used. It is nice
to know that it is there, Maybe......


Bruce in alaska
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