On 30 Aug 2006 04:58:17 -0700, "Skip Gundlach"
wrote:

I'm just wondering if any of you have successfully utilized geckos in
an environmentally friendly insect control program?

We have a few that have made their home inside our pool cage. They
are relentless bug hunters and interesting to watch. I haven't seen
any on the boat but who knows.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On 30 Aug 2006 04:58:17 -0700, "Skip Gundlach"
wrote:

I'm just wondering if any of you have successfully utilized geckos in
an environmentally friendly insect control program?

We have a few that have made their home inside our pool cage. They
are relentless bug hunters and interesting to watch. I haven't seen
any on the boat but who knows.


Our cats love to chase and eat spiders, but most of the spiders are up in
the rigging or in places where the cats would likely fall overboard, were we
to take them sailing. They would also make short work of a little green
insurance salesman.

"Captain B" wrote in
ups.com:

Our docks are just loaded with spiders,

http://www.uky.edu/Ag/Entomology/ent...ruct/ef631.htm
Here in SC, the Brown Recluse, noted to be the most poisonous spider on
the planet, has failed to read the Entomologist's map confining them to
southern midwest states and there are millions of them, everywhere.
They're probably worse in the map's colored in part, but the map is DEAD
WRONG.

The poison eats flesh and CONTINUES. A friend of mine had to have his
HAND CUT OFF to stop it. Everyone in the South or coming to the South
needs to recognize this little brown, unobtrusive little beast. They are
not aggressive until you put your hand under something they've chosen for
home or press them up against something, like rolling over on one in
bed....

They are MUCH harder to spot than our other nemesis the Black
Widow.....which my churches are just FULL OF! I got bit when a Black
Widow took a dim view of my pulling the pedal clavier out from under a
Hammond organ to repair it. There were THREE Black Widows sharing the
pedal habitat, right under the organist's feet. OUCH!

This entomologist's site mentions glue boards as a way to trap them.
(See the pictures). Might be a good idea in the nooks and crannies
spiders love on your boats. My pest control man says spiders are the
hardest thing to kill with pesticides. You just about have to drown them
in it.

Just one of the next generations of dominant species to take over when
the current humans have blown themselves to hell with their
weaponry......after the nuclear winter.

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Larry wrote:
"Captain B" wrote in
ups.com:


Our docks are just loaded with spiders,


http://www.uky.edu/Ag/Entomology/ent...ruct/ef631.htm
Here in SC, the Brown Recluse, noted to be the most poisonous spider on
the planet, has failed to read the Entomologist's map confining them to
southern midwest states and there are millions of them, everywhere.
They're probably worse in the map's colored in part, but the map is DEAD
WRONG.

The poison eats flesh and CONTINUES. A friend of mine had to have his
HAND CUT OFF to stop it. Everyone in the South or coming to the South
needs to recognize this little brown, unobtrusive little beast. They are
not aggressive until you put your hand under something they've chosen for
home or press them up against something, like rolling over on one in
bed....

They are MUCH harder to spot than our other nemesis the Black
Widow.....which my churches are just FULL OF! I got bit when a Black
Widow took a dim view of my pulling the pedal clavier out from under a
Hammond organ to repair it. There were THREE Black Widows sharing the
pedal habitat, right under the organist's feet. OUCH!

This entomologist's site mentions glue boards as a way to trap them.
(See the pictures). Might be a good idea in the nooks and crannies
spiders love on your boats. My pest control man says spiders are the
hardest thing to kill with pesticides. You just about have to drown them
in it.

Just one of the next generations of dominant species to take over when
the current humans have blown themselves to hell with their
weaponry......after the nuclear winter.


And I thought we had it bad with little red ants that burn like hell
when they bite!

Larry wrote in news:Xns982FAAC1A390noonehomecom@
208.49.80.253:

This entomologist's site mentions glue boards as a way to trap them.
(See the pictures). Might be a good idea in the nooks and crannies
spiders love on your boats. My pest control man says spiders are the
hardest thing to kill with pesticides. You just about have to drown them
in it.

According to a doctor whom I know, one of the major problems with spider
bites is chemical poisoning as the bite typically contains a large amount of
pesticide. Spiders are constantly eating other critters that have consumed
pesticides and have a ton of it in their system as well as being immune to
it. He said that most doctors only treat the bite with anti-venom serums
whereas they should also be treating it as a poison/toxic puncture wound.

-- Geoff

Larry wrote:
"Captain B" wrote in
ups.com:

Our docks are just loaded with spiders,

http://www.uky.edu/Ag/Entomology/ent...ruct/ef631.htm
Here in SC, the Brown Recluse, noted to be the most poisonous spider on
the planet, has failed to read the Entomologist's map confining them to
southern midwest states and there are millions of them, everywhere.
They're probably worse in the map's colored in part, but the map is DEAD
WRONG.

The poison eats flesh and CONTINUES. A friend of mine had to have his
HAND CUT OFF to stop it. Everyone in the South or coming to the South
needs to recognize this little brown, unobtrusive little beast. They are
not aggressive until you put your hand under something they've chosen for
home or press them up against something, like rolling over on one in
bed....

Oh, cut it OUT. This is a myth. Here is the real story on brown recluse
bites taken from the SAME SITE as you note:

The initial bite is usually painless. Oftentimes the victim is unaware
until 3 to 8 hours later when the bite site may become red, swollen, and
tender. The majority of brown recluse spider bites remain localized,
healing within 3 weeks without serious complication or medical
intervention. In other cases, the victim may develop a necrotic lesion,
appearing as a dry, sinking bluish patch with irregular edges, a pale
center and peripheral redness. Often there is a central blister. As the
venom continues to destroy tissue, the wound may expand up to several
inches over a period of days or weeks. The necrotic ulcer can persist
for several months, leaving a deep scar. Infrequently, bites in the
early stages produce systemic reactions accompanied by fever, chills,
dizziness, rash or vomiting. Severe reactions to the venom are more
common in children, the elderly, and patients in poor health. Persons
bitten by a brown recluse spider should apply ice, elevate the affected
area, and seek medical attention immediately.

Paul Cassel wrote in
:

Oh, cut it OUT. This is a myth. Here is the real story on brown recluse
bites taken from the SAME SITE as you note:



The pictures are entitled BROWN RECLUSE and are posted now on
alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean newsgroup because I can't post 'em here.

Go have a look. It's no joke when you hand looks like THIS.....

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Larry wrote:
Paul Cassel wrote in
:


Oh, cut it OUT. This is a myth. Here is the real story on brown recluse
bites taken from the SAME SITE as you note:




The pictures are entitled BROWN RECLUSE and are posted now on
alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean newsgroup because I can't post 'em here.

Go have a look. It's no joke when you hand looks like THIS.....


Absolutely gross! Not for the squeamish... or girlie men like Bert &
Frizzle.

Don White wrote in news:ChqJg.6393$9u.76004@ursa-
nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:

Absolutely gross! Not for the squeamish... or girlie men like Bert &
Frizzle.



I'm told amputation is the only way to stop it.....

A 20-something girl at our local Hess gas station, one of the attendants,
had her hand all wrapped up and I asked her what happened....brown recluse
had bit her in her garage while she was searching for something. The
bandage was because the doctor had cut out a fairly good size portion of
her thumb in an attempt to save her hand. She didn't know if it were going
to work as it was still eating away at it.

This is not a joke. This innocent-looking little spider, from a little
smaller than to a little bigger than a Canadian twoney can cause this slow
eating away of your flesh. They're not agressive, like Black Widows
protecting the nest. But, if you've pinched them, not watching where you
put your hand in their dark resting places they use in the daytime, you can
end up in serious trouble. They just are there, not chasing your hand or
anything. Very hard to ID without a close look. We have lots of little
brown spiders in SC.

We also have this HUGE garden spider that makes a massive web from several
points. One made a nest across the sidewalk at a friend's house in
historic downtown Charleston. The spider was, legtip to legtip in the
middle of her webtrap, 8" across! Her main body segment, whatever the back
part is called, was nearly as big as a "C" cell battery and beautifully
colored in yellow. They always weave this very intricate criss-cross
design of thousands of strands from the middle to the lower edge of the
web, very hard not to notice. Then, when you look close, there's another
TINY little spider also sharing this web. That's her MATE! As soon as he
mates with her, she eats him, wrapping him up with the rest of the prey,
his function now complete. I don't remember ever seeing one of them with
any kind of eggsac. I think that must be planted somewhere safe. We
watched her for about 2 weeks, came out one day and the whole web was just
gone, something I'd seen them do before. Not a remnant strand was left.

Well, as you lay there in your bunks tonight....don't worry....(c;

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

In article . com,
"Captain B" wrote:

Our docks are just loaded with spiders, so of course the come and take
over our boat each weekend, does anyone have some clues as to what
might keep this from happening? Maybe a way to keep them out of our
cockpit at least?

If you find another solution other than killing all you find, please
tell us as my lady is using up her karmic balance on the ones she finds
on our baby each time we go out.

At first, she simply showed them where "out of the boat" was, but she's
become quite predatory of late, to her dismay. If she sees one, it soon
becomes so much mush.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
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