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Richard Malcolm July 10th 03 02:02 PM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
am I the only one afraid of fire on a boat. and am I being silly? I
have never understood why boats just don't blow up when grilling? Can
anyone help me?

Jeff Morris July 10th 03 03:00 PM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
Why should it blow up? My grill hangs over the side so that any lost propane will fall
outside the boat.


"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
am I the only one afraid of fire on a boat. and am I being silly? I
have never understood why boats just don't blow up when grilling? Can
anyone help me?




Peggie Hall July 10th 03 03:54 PM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
The key is in keeping the fire OUTside the boat...overhanging the water.

However, many boats have gas--propane, CNG or alcohol stoves in the
galleys. Yes, they do cause fires...but very rarely except when caused
by "operator error" (polite term for "system neglect and/or somebody did
something incredibly stupid").

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Richard Malcolm wrote:
am I the only one afraid of fire on a boat. and am I being silly? I
have never understood why boats just don't blow up when grilling? Can
anyone help me?



TobagoFlyr July 10th 03 04:20 PM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
In article ,
(Richard Malcolm) writes:

am I the only one afraid of fire on a boat. and am I being silly? I
have never understood why boats just don't blow up when grilling? Can
anyone help me?


Boat US just sent out their insurance company news letter a few weeks back.
They listed causes of fires resulting in insurance claims. They seemed quite
surprised that a tiny percentage of boat fires was from propane grills. Most
were caused by electrical shorts or fuel leakage. I tossed it so I cannot
quote it exactly.


Ted Edwards
Chatham Bound

Michael Sutton July 11th 03 03:17 PM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
Why should it blow up? My grill hangs over the side so that any
lost propane will fall outside the boat.


what about a grill on the back rail of a gas-powered cabin
cruiser type boat? You got gas-fumes to deal with.

Most grill's I've seen were on backs of sailboats, most
of which are diesel powered.

what do gas power boat cruisers do?



"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
am I the only one afraid of fire on a boat. and am I being silly? I
have never understood why boats just don't blow up when grilling? Can
anyone help me?


Peggie Hall July 11th 03 03:50 PM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
what about a grill on the back rail of a gas-powered cabin
cruiser type boat? You got gas-fumes to deal with.


Not unless you hang it over the gas tank vent. And even that's not as
risky as it sounds because it's gas fumes that collect in enclosed
spaces that explode...if gas fumes that dissipate in open air exploded,
every vehicle with a gas leak would explode when started and gas
stations would be blowing up daily.

Most grill's I've seen were on backs of sailboats, most
of which are diesel powered.


You just haven't been looking. There are even more powerboats with
grills--which were all charcoal in the beginning, and some people still
prefer it to gas--than sailboats.

what do gas power boat cruisers do?


Mine were mounted on the transom and overhung my swim platform.

To my knowledge, there has never been a boat fire caused by a grill
that's installed and used properly...that is, overhanging the water and
propane cylinders stored above decks. It's only when they're used
improperly that there's any danger of anything worse than losing your
dinner overboard.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
.com...

am I the only one afraid of fire on a boat. and am I being silly? I
have never understood why boats just don't blow up when grilling? Can
anyone help me?




Peggie Hall July 11th 03 05:33 PM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
Surely you mean STORE a BBQ...

RichH wrote:
Best place to 'mount' a BBQ is in a LOCKER (with quick
connect/disconnect to a rail, etc.) .... cant wash overboard, isnt
always in the way, doesnt foul the stern with the usual "crap on de back".
A stern that looks like a floating yard sale is IMHO dangerous,
especially for a blue water boat - everthing you add to the stern or bow
results in additional tendancy for the boat to hobbyhorse and 'plunge'
in large waves. You definitely dont want to be hanging onto a stern rail
trying to save a BBQ when there is heavy weather and there are waves
slopping onboard - been there, have the tee shirt. On the other hand, If
you have a 'marina queen' whose primary function is dockside
entertaining, then it really doesnt matter where to put it .... side of
the mast, pulpit, pushpit, top of winch, etc.



Ilv2sl July 11th 03 09:14 PM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
Mount the grill already!
I've had my propane grill mounted to the stern rail, directlly over the rail
for 6 years of cruising.
2 circumnavigators that just recentlly returned to the marina have theirs there
also. It's not like it's inside the cabin.
I can't imagine having to mount and unmount the grill every time we wanted to
grill something.
Mount it on the rail, and enjoy it!

Jeff Morris July 11th 03 11:54 PM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
BBQ underway in heavy weather with waves slopping aboard? I'm glad I don't have the
t-shirt!

Most marinas I know don't allow grills to be used in slips. Where I am now there's a city
ordinance against it.

-jeff



"RichH" wrote in message ...
Best place to 'mount' a BBQ is in a LOCKER (with quick
connect/disconnect to a rail, etc.) .... cant wash overboard, isnt
always in the way, doesnt foul the stern with the usual "crap on de back".
A stern that looks like a floating yard sale is IMHO dangerous,
especially for a blue water boat - everthing you add to the stern or bow
results in additional tendancy for the boat to hobbyhorse and 'plunge'
in large waves. You definitely dont want to be hanging onto a stern rail
trying to save a BBQ when there is heavy weather and there are waves
slopping onboard - been there, have the tee shirt. On the other hand, If
you have a 'marina queen' whose primary function is dockside
entertaining, then it really doesnt matter where to put it .... side of
the mast, pulpit, pushpit, top of winch, etc.




Jere Lull July 12th 03 12:49 AM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
Jeff Morris wrote:

BBQ underway in heavy weather with waves slopping aboard? I'm glad I don't have the
t-shirt!

Most marinas I know don't allow grills to be used in slips. Where I am now there's a city
ordinance against it.


For what its worth: Most marinas we've stopped at on the Chesapeake (
which are rarely other than MD state run) consider propane grills
"enclosed", so are as legal at the dock as our stove. They do NOT want
charcoal fired grills fired up at the dock, though. Considering the
massive flames I've seen coming from some of those, I don't disagree.

We used to store our Magma in a locker between trips, but have left it
on the transom for most of the past 2-3 years. When not in use, the
propane tank goes some place safe, of course. Except that the nylon
covers disintegrate in about one season, we've found no down side to
keeping the grill mounted back there --- they are pretty light. We got a
Sunbrella cover this year so will only be able to comment on its
longevity next season, but it's been pretty effective agiainst the
monsoon rains we've had.... And Magma warantees the Sunbrella covers
for multiple years. (they should at what they charge!)

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


Bruce Woodburn July 12th 03 02:38 AM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
I know it sound weird, but see how it fits on the pulpit.

The grease goes overboard, and it never gets in the way of anything. The
only downside is the breeze at anchorage which wafts tantalizing smells all
the way aft.

B



"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...
All this talk about Magmas and Dikinson grills is making me hungry. It
is also making me wonder about the best place to mount one.

Usually I see them mounded on the side of the stern pulpit but I have
narrow side decks back there so I would have to stand in the cockpit
seat and lean over to cook. The other option is off the transom but I
have a sugar scoop stern and am worried about dripping grease on the
swim platform.

Anyone have a solution?

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com





Glenn Ashmore July 12th 03 03:32 AM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
I was the designated chef cooking steaks on a charcoal Magma sailing
down 65W to Tortola in 18 knots once. Last night at sea and we were
cleaning out the frige. Other than loosing a couple of potatoes
overboard the exciting part was lighting the fire. Good thing the grill
was mounted on the starboard side. Otherwise it would have baked
everyone in the cockpit. After 8 days of Denty Moore and bologna
sandwiches they were some of the best tasting steaks I ever ate. :-)

Don't think I will be grilling much underway but I also don't want to
have to wrestle with mounting a grill everytime I want to use it. If
the Dickenson does not drip grease I think I will just mound it on the
transom rail. There is a lot of stuff mounted back there anyway (MOB
pole, life sling, fender rack etc) so the grill is not going to add much.

Jeff Morris wrote:
BBQ underway in heavy weather with waves slopping aboard? I'm glad I don't have the
t-shirt!

Most marinas I know don't allow grills to be used in slips. Where I am now there's a city
ordinance against it.

-jeff



"RichH" wrote in message ...

Best place to 'mount' a BBQ is in a LOCKER (with quick
connect/disconnect to a rail, etc.) .... cant wash overboard, isnt
always in the way, doesnt foul the stern with the usual "crap on de back".
A stern that looks like a floating yard sale is IMHO dangerous,
especially for a blue water boat - everthing you add to the stern or bow
results in additional tendancy for the boat to hobbyhorse and 'plunge'
in large waves. You definitely dont want to be hanging onto a stern rail
trying to save a BBQ when there is heavy weather and there are waves
slopping onboard - been there, have the tee shirt. On the other hand, If
you have a 'marina queen' whose primary function is dockside
entertaining, then it really doesnt matter where to put it .... side of
the mast, pulpit, pushpit, top of winch, etc.






--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com



Keith July 12th 03 01:29 PM

Where to mount the BBQ grill & Fire Causes
 
I've got my Magma mounted on the aft cap rail. The mount allows me to rotate
it 360 degrees, in 90 degree increments. When underway, I've got it pointing
in, hanging over the aft deck. Usual position while cooking is facing
starboard, over the rail. I could also hang it out over the swim platform,
but have never needed to.

BTW, someone mentioned the statistics on fires on board from Boat/U.S. Just
happen to have the article he
1. AC & DC wiring / appliance - 55%
DC Shorts / Wiring - 30%
DC engine voltage regulator 12%
AC appliance / heater - 4%
Shore power - 4%
AC wiring / panel - 2%
DC battery charger - 2%
AC power surge - 1%

2. ENGINE / TRANSMISSION OVERHEAT - 24%
Engine overheat - 19%
Turbocharger overheat - 2%
Transmission overheat - 2%
Backfire - 1%

3. FUEL LEAK - 8% (95% of these were caused by gasoline)

5. MISCELLANEOUS - 7%
Stuff like flares, kids with matches, etc.

4. UNKNOWN - 5%

6, STOVE - 1%
They stated only one fire was caused by propane, when a portable unit fell
off the counter while in use.


--


Keith
__
Love is blind, but marriage is an eye-opener.
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...
I was the designated chef cooking steaks on a charcoal Magma sailing
down 65W to Tortola in 18 knots once. Last night at sea and we were
cleaning out the frige. Other than loosing a couple of potatoes
overboard the exciting part was lighting the fire. Good thing the grill
was mounted on the starboard side. Otherwise it would have baked
everyone in the cockpit. After 8 days of Denty Moore and bologna
sandwiches they were some of the best tasting steaks I ever ate. :-)

Don't think I will be grilling much underway but I also don't want to
have to wrestle with mounting a grill everytime I want to use it. If
the Dickenson does not drip grease I think I will just mound it on the
transom rail. There is a lot of stuff mounted back there anyway (MOB
pole, life sling, fender rack etc) so the grill is not going to add much.

Jeff Morris wrote:
BBQ underway in heavy weather with waves slopping aboard? I'm glad I

don't have the
t-shirt!

Most marinas I know don't allow grills to be used in slips. Where I am

now there's a city
ordinance against it.

-jeff



"RichH" wrote in message

...

Best place to 'mount' a BBQ is in a LOCKER (with quick
connect/disconnect to a rail, etc.) .... cant wash overboard, isnt
always in the way, doesnt foul the stern with the usual "crap on de

back".
A stern that looks like a floating yard sale is IMHO dangerous,
especially for a blue water boat - everthing you add to the stern or bow
results in additional tendancy for the boat to hobbyhorse and 'plunge'
in large waves. You definitely dont want to be hanging onto a stern rail
trying to save a BBQ when there is heavy weather and there are waves
slopping onboard - been there, have the tee shirt. On the other hand, If
you have a 'marina queen' whose primary function is dockside
entertaining, then it really doesnt matter where to put it .... side of
the mast, pulpit, pushpit, top of winch, etc.






--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com





Greg July 14th 03 12:53 PM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
Richard,
I have worried about this also. Those single pole brackets shown holding up
a grill plus the weight of the foods being cooked just look incredibly weak.
I have yet to see anyone at the marinas around here using one.
Greg Luckett
St. Joseph, MI

"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
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am I the only one afraid of fire on a boat. and am I being silly? I
have never understood why boats just don't blow up when grilling? Can
anyone help me?





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Ryk July 30th 03 06:44 PM

Where to mount the BBQ grill
 
On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 17:39:34 -0400, in message

Glenn Ashmore wrote:

All this talk about Magmas and Dikinson grills is making me hungry. It
is also making me wonder about the best place to mount one.

Usually I see them mounded on the side of the stern pulpit but I have
narrow side decks back there so I would have to stand in the cockpit
seat and lean over to cook. The other option is off the transom but I
have a sugar scoop stern and am worried about dripping grease on the
swim platform.


I have a boat with a fairly narrow transom that puts rail space at a
premium. I mount my Force Ten kettle (which for some reason blows out
if fully closed, but is good to about 15 knots of breeze with the lid
cracked about 1/4 inch open) more or less at the corner of the stern
pulpit. It drips a little, but only on the far edge of one side of the
transom, and has never been an issue in docking.

Ryk



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