Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

I always wonder which is more popular Volvo or Yanmar diesel?
I had a Yanmar diesel since 1982. The first year it went fine. I only had
black smoke coming out now and then.
The second the high pressure fuel oil leading to the cylinder developed an
hair line crack and I got stranded in the St Laurence seaway with 4 knots
of current. I can say that I like Yanmar diesel. Now it is time to upgrade
my boat and I wonder why Volvo is not as popular as Yanmar?

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

One reason is that Volvo parts are a lot more expensive. Yanmar also has a
better world wide parts distribution network.

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I always wonder which is more popular Volvo or Yanmar diesel?
I had a Yanmar diesel since 1982. The first year it went fine. I only
had black smoke coming out now and then.
The second the high pressure fuel oil leading to the cylinder developed an
hair line crack and I got stranded in the St Laurence seaway with 4 knots
of current. I can say that I like Yanmar diesel. Now it is time to
upgrade my boat and I wonder why Volvo is not as popular as Yanmar?

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

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I always wonder which is more popular Volvo or Yanmar diesel?
I had a Yanmar diesel since 1982. The first year it went fine. I only
had black smoke coming out now and then.
The second the high pressure fuel oil leading to the cylinder developed an
hair line crack and I got stranded in the St Laurence seaway with 4 knots
of current. I can say that I like Yanmar diesel. Now it is time to
upgrade my boat and I wonder why Volvo is not as popular as Yanmar?

In article 7Xbxg.828$ok5.531@dukeread01,
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote:

One reason is that Volvo parts are a lot more expensive. Yanmar also has a
better world wide parts distribution network.

And most of the usual parts for their smaller engines are
interchangeable, which increases the probability that what you need will
be in stock.

When we repowered in '93, the Yanmar GM series was, as I was told, the
first that didn't start out as a tractor engine, but was engineered for
marine use from the start. Relatively light for the power, good gearing
so we can swing a big, slow, efficient prop, that sort of thing. I
believe ours was the first our shop had installed because they seriously
undersized the prop: 14x8, as I recall. We're swinging a 16x10 now.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
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Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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Now it is time to upgrade
my boat and I wonder why Volvo is not as popular as Yanmar?

Think Beta, they are Kubota based.

Lew


Think Beta, they are Kubota based.

Which is a tractor engine converted by several manufacturers (Universal,
Westerbeake, Sole) to a marine engine.
This may not necessarily be bad however I would prefer an engine
purpose-built as a marine engine. One thing with the Kubota, you can get
some parts cheaper by going to the tractor dealers as opposed to the marine
dealers.

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

Gordon Wedman wrote:

Which is a tractor engine converted by several manufacturers
(Universal,
Westerbeake, Sole) to a marine engine.
This may not necessarily be bad however I would prefer an engine
purpose-built as a marine engine. One thing with the Kubota, you
can get
some parts cheaper by going to the tractor dealers as opposed to
the marine
dealers.

Am on another list with a guy from OZ who has an extensive background
with both Yanmar and Kubota.

These days he is in the Kubota camp.

Lew

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

I have look and found that Kubota "Beta" main distributor is located in the
UK.
Do we have any dealer in Canada and the US?


"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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wrote:

Now it is time to upgrade
my boat and I wonder why Volvo is not as popular as Yanmar?

Think Beta, they are Kubota based.

Lew

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

wrote:
I have look and found that Kubota "Beta" main distributor is located in the
UK.
Do we have any dealer in Canada and the US?



Ben Gartside (Gartside Marine Engines) in Sidney, BC (Vancouver Island)
is a Canadian dealer.
Ph 250-655-4543

John

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

We had trouble with our yanmar constantly but it was older. Friends
with a volvo diesel were quite happy with it but told us that parts
were expensive and hard to find.
I dont bother with the inboard, its my husbands job to maintain it and
run it etc etc etc.
Beth

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

My wife does the same thing.
As for spare parts I can only thing of getting them at time of the sailboat
purchase.
I thing I can benefit a lot in taking a diesel maintenance and repair
course.
I have notice that the renown blue water cruising sailboat builder
Hallberg-Rassy are installing Volvo diesel engine in all of their sailboats.


"Beth" wrote in message
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We had trouble with our yanmar constantly but it was older. Friends
with a volvo diesel were quite happy with it but told us that parts
were expensive and hard to find.
I dont bother with the inboard, its my husbands job to maintain it and
run it etc etc etc.
Beth

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

Kubota tractor diesel mechanic in our are is very good and fast.
Last year when I lost my engine far away from home the only mechanic I could
get was the Kubota mechanic.
We were in the middle of hay time and the mechanic drove about 50 miles to
get to my boat.
After proper examination his conclusion was that my Yanmar diesel crankshaft
was broken.
Although the Kubota mechanic was unable to get the diesel running I was
impress by his fast response.
Later when the engine was stripped apart it was concluded that the
crankshaft was broken in two parts.
The only place for me to buy a Beta engine is from British Columbia or the
US. I only wish we could get Beta diesel engine in Eastern Canada
"Gordon Wedman" wrote in message
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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Now it is time to upgrade
my boat and I wonder why Volvo is not as popular as Yanmar?

Think Beta, they are Kubota based.

Lew


Think Beta, they are Kubota based.

Which is a tractor engine converted by several manufacturers (Universal,
Westerbeake, Sole) to a marine engine.
This may not necessarily be bad however I would prefer an engine
purpose-built as a marine engine. One thing with the Kubota, you can get
some parts cheaper by going to the tractor dealers as opposed to the
marine dealers.

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

It makes sense blood is thicker than water.
However I wonder where Volvo are getting their castings and other pertinent
parts?

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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I have notice that the renown blue water cruising sailboat builder
Hallberg-Rassy are installing Volvo diesel engine in all of their
sailboats.

Both are Swedish, I wouldn't expect anything less.

Lew

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

Lew Hodgett wrote:
wrote:

The only place for me to buy a Beta engine is from British Columbia or
the US. I only wish we could get Beta diesel engine in Eastern Canada



Still better than getting sucker punched by Volvo, IMHO.

Lew


Lew...
have you talked to these people?
http://www.eastcoastpowersystems.com/frames.html

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

I wonder if Volvo Penta's head office are fully cognisant of the present
impact of their pricing and network structure? Maybe they are making enough
profit the way they are operating now or the Swedish tax payers foot the
differences.

Here the only dealer we have is fully servicing the lobster fishermen.

They do not argue about the cost of servicing and parts. Price is no object.
Failing to pick up the lobster pots on time means a big money lost.

The dealer stated that time permitting he could order Volvo parts for small
sailboat diesel engines.

With today's communication and shipping it could be faster and cheaper to
buy parts directly from Volvo in Sweden.




"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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wrote:

I have notice that the renown blue water cruising sailboat builder
Hallberg-Rassy are installing Volvo diesel engine in all of their
sailboats.

Both are Swedish, I wouldn't expect anything less.

Lew

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

Thanks for the information. I have just sent an email to
http://www.eastcoastpowersystems.com/frames.html asking about the Beta
diesel engine. Should this turn out to be positive it will suit us very
well in Atlantic Canada.


"Don White" wrote in message
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
wrote:

The only place for me to buy a Beta engine is from British Columbia or
the US. I only wish we could get Beta diesel engine in Eastern Canada



Still better than getting sucker punched by Volvo, IMHO.

Lew


Lew...
have you talked to these people?
http://www.eastcoastpowersystems.com/frames.html

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel
 

What you are saying only reinforces what I have been hearing since 1982.
I do not know how can Volvo Penta remains in business. I have talked to
many surveyors and they concluded that Volvo is a good diesel engine but
their distribution network is poor and their pricing structure way too high
for the engine and the parts.

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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I wonder if Volvo Penta's head office are fully cognisant of the
present
impact of their pricing and network structure?

My dislike of Volvo goes back to the late 70's when my dock partner lost
the entire summer because he couldn't get Volvo parts in a timely fashion
which translates to almost 30 years.

I have never considered Volvo acceptable for anything since.

Lew

Volvo vs Yanmar diesel