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sherwindu June 23rd 06 06:07 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
I think you have a real find there. Marina stores traditionally charge much
more than
anyone else, maybe because of the convenience factor. I just got the good news
that
a Cabelas Sport Store is moving into my area. I bought a Garelick outboard
bracket from them this year at almost half of what West Marine was asking. I
don't
think West would have bargained down that much, so I didn't even ask. I hope
more will follow, especially those with a good selection of sailboat hardware.

Sherwin D.

Jere Lull wrote:

In article . com,
"boomerswims" wrote:

I'm really sorry that so many of you have had bad experiences with west
marine. I'm probably going to get my lashes by mentioning this, but I'm
going to. I work for west marine.


What I complain about is of no fault of yours.

My complaints mostly center around dramatically increased prices for
things that they stock, and far fewer stocked items than in past years.

I used to be able to get my Maxprop zincs at the Delaware BOAT/U.S. No
longer.

Last year, the West Marine stores had Spade anchors. This year (when I
went to get one) NOT. I probably would have ordered from Glenn anyway,
but I checked in case there was a price differential.

So many times, things that had been in the stores are missing now.

Independent marine stores will match West's prices and usually beat
them. Repeat customers get an even better deal. When they don't have an
item, they'll dig around in the manufacturers' catalogs and order
directly. West can't or won't do that.

West seems to think they've created a monopoly and increased prices
accordingly, but that ain't true in my area. My marina's store gives me
better prices and service.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/



Capt. JG June 23rd 06 08:41 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
"sherwindu" wrote in message
...


"Rosalie B." wrote:




He wasn't correcting your English - he was correcting the idea of the
definition of conglomerate. If he were just correcting your English,
he would have said that the appropriate phrase to describe West Marine
and the effect they have on the chandlery markets was 'monopoly'.


I am not arguing the correctness of the term conglomerate vs.
monopoly.
Perhaps monopoly would have been a more descriptive term, but why
harp on this.



Since we were discussing a large corporation which sells marine
products which was incorrectly calling a conglomerate, it was not off
topic here, but your remarks about Lincoln WERE off topic.


I think they were off topic since this is a boating forum and calling
West a conglomerate or a monopoly doesn't change the reality of
the problem of a single company controlling most of the retail outlets
to the boating public.



If tangential remarks bug you then you'd do better to go to a
moderated group or to get out of this venue altogether. I find it far
worse when folks engage in protracted slanging matches that are ON
topic.


Does that go for your protracted defense of this linguistic expert?

I think I will just ignore your advice, since nobody appointed you
as the chief advisor of who should and who shouldn't post here.

Unfortunately, there are no decent moderated boating forums that I
know of. Moderating a forum only makes sense when the poster is
completely off the subject. In this case, the poster just deviated from
the issue to go down his preferred path, never addressing the original
idea being presented.


I think that if one has to choose between listening to your advise vs.
Rosalie's, most will listen to her. But, of course, that's just my opinion
on monopolies (or is it a conglomeration?).

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Keith June 23rd 06 12:55 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Got to do a little head to head comparison this week. This is from the
West Marine store in Corpus Christi vs. Defender's online prices.

32 oz. 303 fabric protector: West - $27, Defender $32. This was a
surprise.
18 g duplex wire, Ancor: West - $75, Defender $43.
3M metal restorer and polish, 16 oz. tub: West - $28, Defender $19.

Also, add 8.25% sales tax to the above if purchased locally. Very
advantageous to shop online, I'd say. West will usually price match, if
you bring in a web price.


Scotty June 23rd 06 01:39 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 

"Keith" wrote in message
oups.com..
..
Got to do a little head to head comparison this week. This

is from the
West Marine store in Corpus Christi vs. Defender's online

prices.

32 oz. 303 fabric protector: West - $27, Defender $32.

This was a
surprise.
18 g duplex wire, Ancor: West - $75, Defender $43.
3M metal restorer and polish, 16 oz. tub: West - $28,

Defender $19.


What about shipping?

SV



Scotty June 23rd 06 01:39 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Most people complain that Cabelas is overpriced.

SV


"sherwindu" wrote in message
...
I think you have a real find there. Marina stores

traditionally charge much
more than
anyone else, maybe because of the convenience factor. I

just got the good news
that
a Cabelas Sport Store is moving into my area. I bought a

Garelick outboard
bracket from them this year at almost half of what West

Marine was asking. I
don't
think West would have bargained down that much, so I

didn't even ask. I hope
more will follow, especially those with a good selection

of sailboat hardware.

Sherwin D.

Jere Lull wrote:

In article

. com,
"boomerswims" wrote:

I'm really sorry that so many of you have had bad

experiences with west
marine. I'm probably going to get my lashes by

mentioning this, but I'm
going to. I work for west marine.


What I complain about is of no fault of yours.

My complaints mostly center around dramatically

increased prices for
things that they stock, and far fewer stocked items than

in past years.

I used to be able to get my Maxprop zincs at the

Delaware BOAT/U.S. No
longer.

Last year, the West Marine stores had Spade anchors.

This year (when I
went to get one) NOT. I probably would have ordered from

Glenn anyway,
but I checked in case there was a price differential.

So many times, things that had been in the stores are

missing now.

Independent marine stores will match West's prices and

usually beat
them. Repeat customers get an even better deal. When

they don't have an
item, they'll dig around in the manufacturers' catalogs

and order
directly. West can't or won't do that.

West seems to think they've created a monopoly and

increased prices
accordingly, but that ain't true in my area. My marina's

store gives me
better prices and service.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics)

http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/




Bill Kearney June 23rd 06 01:43 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Also, add 8.25% sales tax to the above if purchased locally.

8.25%? Hell, I'd move rather than pay that extortion.

sherwindu June 24th 06 05:56 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Defender used to have very good prices. Someone probably bought them out, and
the prices shot up.

Sherwin D.

Keith wrote:

Got to do a little head to head comparison this week. This is from the
West Marine store in Corpus Christi vs. Defender's online prices.

32 oz. 303 fabric protector: West - $27, Defender $32. This was a
surprise.
18 g duplex wire, Ancor: West - $75, Defender $43.
3M metal restorer and polish, 16 oz. tub: West - $28, Defender $19.

Also, add 8.25% sales tax to the above if purchased locally. Very
advantageous to shop online, I'd say. West will usually price match, if
you bring in a web price.



sherwindu June 24th 06 05:57 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
I can't help it if you have this thing for grandma Rosalie.

"Capt. JG" wrote:

"sherwindu" wrote in message
...


"Rosalie B." wrote:




He wasn't correcting your English - he was correcting the idea of the
definition of conglomerate. If he were just correcting your English,
he would have said that the appropriate phrase to describe West Marine
and the effect they have on the chandlery markets was 'monopoly'.


I am not arguing the correctness of the term conglomerate vs.
monopoly.
Perhaps monopoly would have been a more descriptive term, but why
harp on this.



Since we were discussing a large corporation which sells marine
products which was incorrectly calling a conglomerate, it was not off
topic here, but your remarks about Lincoln WERE off topic.


I think they were off topic since this is a boating forum and calling
West a conglomerate or a monopoly doesn't change the reality of
the problem of a single company controlling most of the retail outlets
to the boating public.



If tangential remarks bug you then you'd do better to go to a
moderated group or to get out of this venue altogether. I find it far
worse when folks engage in protracted slanging matches that are ON
topic.


Does that go for your protracted defense of this linguistic expert?

I think I will just ignore your advice, since nobody appointed you
as the chief advisor of who should and who shouldn't post here.

Unfortunately, there are no decent moderated boating forums that I
know of. Moderating a forum only makes sense when the poster is
completely off the subject. In this case, the poster just deviated from
the issue to go down his preferred path, never addressing the original
idea being presented.


I think that if one has to choose between listening to your advise vs.
Rosalie's, most will listen to her. But, of course, that's just my opinion
on monopolies (or is it a conglomeration?).

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



sherwindu June 24th 06 06:01 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Not my experience. I'm sure it depends on the item. I saved a bundle on two
Marine items I bought there last year. When I visited their store in Wisconsin,
I
did see a lot of expensive clothes, but who shops for clothes in a sport's
store, unless
it is high tech gear, and I have several other choices locally to find that.

Scotty wrote:

Most people complain that Cabelas is overpriced.

SV

"sherwindu" wrote in message
...
I think you have a real find there. Marina stores

traditionally charge much
more than
anyone else, maybe because of the convenience factor. I

just got the good news
that
a Cabelas Sport Store is moving into my area. I bought a

Garelick outboard
bracket from them this year at almost half of what West

Marine was asking. I
don't
think West would have bargained down that much, so I

didn't even ask. I hope
more will follow, especially those with a good selection

of sailboat hardware.

Sherwin D.

Jere Lull wrote:

In article

. com,
"boomerswims" wrote:

I'm really sorry that so many of you have had bad

experiences with west
marine. I'm probably going to get my lashes by

mentioning this, but I'm
going to. I work for west marine.

What I complain about is of no fault of yours.

My complaints mostly center around dramatically

increased prices for
things that they stock, and far fewer stocked items than

in past years.

I used to be able to get my Maxprop zincs at the

Delaware BOAT/U.S. No
longer.

Last year, the West Marine stores had Spade anchors.

This year (when I
went to get one) NOT. I probably would have ordered from

Glenn anyway,
but I checked in case there was a price differential.

So many times, things that had been in the stores are

missing now.

Independent marine stores will match West's prices and

usually beat
them. Repeat customers get an even better deal. When

they don't have an
item, they'll dig around in the manufacturers' catalogs

and order
directly. West can't or won't do that.

West seems to think they've created a monopoly and

increased prices
accordingly, but that ain't true in my area. My marina's

store gives me
better prices and service.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics)

http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/



Capt. JG June 24th 06 06:23 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
"sherwindu" wrote in message
...
I can't help it if you have this thing for grandma Rosalie.

"Capt. JG" wrote:

"sherwindu" wrote in message
...


"Rosalie B." wrote:




He wasn't correcting your English - he was correcting the idea of the
definition of conglomerate. If he were just correcting your English,
he would have said that the appropriate phrase to describe West Marine
and the effect they have on the chandlery markets was 'monopoly'.

I am not arguing the correctness of the term conglomerate vs.
monopoly.
Perhaps monopoly would have been a more descriptive term, but why
harp on this.



Since we were discussing a large corporation which sells marine
products which was incorrectly calling a conglomerate, it was not off
topic here, but your remarks about Lincoln WERE off topic.

I think they were off topic since this is a boating forum and
calling
West a conglomerate or a monopoly doesn't change the reality of
the problem of a single company controlling most of the retail
outlets
to the boating public.



If tangential remarks bug you then you'd do better to go to a
moderated group or to get out of this venue altogether. I find it far
worse when folks engage in protracted slanging matches that are ON
topic.

Does that go for your protracted defense of this linguistic expert?

I think I will just ignore your advice, since nobody appointed you
as the chief advisor of who should and who shouldn't post here.

Unfortunately, there are no decent moderated boating forums that I
know of. Moderating a forum only makes sense when the poster is
completely off the subject. In this case, the poster just deviated
from
the issue to go down his preferred path, never addressing the
original
idea being presented.


I think that if one has to choose between listening to your advise vs.
Rosalie's, most will listen to her. But, of course, that's just my
opinion
on monopolies (or is it a conglomeration?).


Ah, so personal attacks are your thing... you sound pretty angry.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com





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