I was talking to this guy and he recommended this product. ARMADA. From
what I can figure it is like Cetol.

Anyone know about this product? If you have used it ,, please tell. How
much work to apply?

In article ksnjg.2279$n93.485@trndny07,
"Thomas Wentworth" wrote:

I was talking to this guy and he recommended this product. ARMADA. From
what I can figure it is like Cetol.

Anyone know about this product? If you have used it ,, please tell. How
much work to apply?


It's much like Cetol since the company was started by ex-Cetol
employees. Some prefer it, but others prefer varnish, so it's pretty
much on the par with religious discussion.

I like Cetol. Armada's a little clearer, but I feel it's only as
effective as Cetol Gloss, which doesn't have the protective qualities of
marine Cetol.

The first application, you should strip and sand to bare wood and apply
many coats, a great winter project. After a decade using Cetol, I choose
the worst-looking items one day at anchor, tape and lightly sand, then
apply two or three coats.

How much? How much time do you have? I apply an average of 3 coats when
I get around to it, and it stays viable for two or three seasons.

Your mileage will probably vary, but I haven't found anything as
low-effort as Cetol.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Jere ,, what about the color? Lots of talk that the color of Cetol is bad..
has that been a problem? Is this something that can be controled?

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In article ksnjg.2279$n93.485@trndny07,
"Thomas Wentworth" wrote:

I was talking to this guy and he recommended this product. ARMADA. From
what I can figure it is like Cetol.

Anyone know about this product? If you have used it ,, please tell. How
much work to apply?


It's much like Cetol since the company was started by ex-Cetol
employees. Some prefer it, but others prefer varnish, so it's pretty
much on the par with religious discussion.

I like Cetol. Armada's a little clearer, but I feel it's only as
effective as Cetol Gloss, which doesn't have the protective qualities of
marine Cetol.

The first application, you should strip and sand to bare wood and apply
many coats, a great winter project. After a decade using Cetol, I choose
the worst-looking items one day at anchor, tape and lightly sand, then
apply two or three coats.

How much? How much time do you have? I apply an average of 3 coats when
I get around to it, and it stays viable for two or three seasons.

Your mileage will probably vary, but I haven't found anything as
low-effort as Cetol.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:32:23 GMT, "Thomas Wentworth"
wrote:

Jere ,, what about the color? Lots of talk that the color of Cetol is bad..

Depends how you feel about *orange*...

In article b_Vjg.3908$n93.3585@trndny07,
"Thomas Wentworth" wrote:

Jere ,, what about the color? Lots of talk that the color of Cetol is bad..
has that been a problem? Is this something that can be controled?

Sailing is always choosing trade-offs. I put enough on that it weathers
to brown, with a hint of the grain showing through. At home and below, I
go for clear (see Xan's pics), but in the sun I go for *protection*.

Truth be told, few can tell the difference between clear and Cetol from
50 feet away; fewer cruisers care.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Jere ,, what about the color? Lots of talk that the color of Cetol is bad..
has that been a problem? Is this something that can be controled?


Jere Lull wrote:
Sailing is always choosing trade-offs.

Absolutely agreed.



Truth be told, few can tell the difference between clear and Cetol from
50 feet away; fewer cruisers care.


Now here I disagree on both points. Cruisers do care about
the looks of their boats. And if you've ever seen really
nice brightwork, it can easily be told from Cetol at 50' or
even 100'.

Is that small detail worth the extra work? Up to you.

Personally, I don't, which is why I don't work on the
varnish on our boat. In times past, I have maintained a few
wooden boats, two of which were in showroom-perfect
condition much of the time. Getting it there is really the
work intensive part, once it's there, it only takes a little
on a regular basis to keep it. But most people (myself
included these days) don't have the persistence.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

I agree totally with Doug in that once you 'arrive' at 'perfection' it
takes just small increments of maintenance to keep it that way.

Since the 'modern' two part finishes are the most resistant to
degradation, I chose to use one of them six years ago .... and my boat
has looked quite good for the past 6 seasons and without much 'rehab'
of the brightwork. Costwise in the long term they are probably the
least expensive with the least work; although, the initial cost is a
shocker.

Beauty is truely in the eye of the beholder .... some even like
butt-ugly thinned-out alkyd enamel with 'orangey' ferrous oxide in it.



In article , DSK
wrote:

Jere ,, what about the color? Lots of talk that the color of Cetol is
bad..
has that been a problem? Is this something that can be controled?


Jere Lull wrote:
Sailing is always choosing trade-offs.

Absolutely agreed.



Truth be told, few can tell the difference between clear and Cetol from
50 feet away; fewer cruisers care.


Now here I disagree on both points. Cruisers do care about
the looks of their boats. And if you've ever seen really
nice brightwork, it can easily be told from Cetol at 50' or
even 100'.

Is that small detail worth the extra work? Up to you.

Personally, I don't, which is why I don't work on the
varnish on our boat. In times past, I have maintained a few
wooden boats, two of which were in showroom-perfect
condition much of the time. Getting it there is really the
work intensive part, once it's there, it only takes a little
on a regular basis to keep it. But most people (myself
included these days) don't have the persistence.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King