Any VC 17M users?
 

Who says its toxic. Asians have been using it for growing their veggies
for past milleniums without too much harm!
G

"Larry" wrote in message
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krj wrote in news:F_41g.3879$MM6.2307
@bignews3.bellsouth.net:

And how about the cities of along the east coast of Florida around Ft.
Lauderdale that, according to Sundays newspaper, pump 300,000 gallons
PER DAY of treated sewage onto our coral reefs.
krj


Another thing I'll never figure out is why human **** is so toxic and
whale/dolphin/manatee **** isn't.

If we kill all the manatees, won't Florida waterways be cleaner??...(c;

Any VC 17M users?
 

Larry wrote:
krj wrote in news:F_41g.3879$MM6.2307
@bignews3.bellsouth.net:


And how about the cities of along the east coast of Florida around Ft.
Lauderdale that, according to Sundays newspaper, pump 300,000 gallons
PER DAY of treated sewage onto our coral reefs.
krj



Another thing I'll never figure out is why human **** is so toxic and
whale/dolphin/manatee **** isn't.

If we kill all the manatees, won't Florida waterways be cleaner??...(c;

It's not the human crap that is toxic, it's the nitrogen from
fertilizers used on lawns, oil run off from dripping cars, phosphates,
etc. that is toxic mixed with everything else.
krj

Any VC 17M users?
 

Larry wrote:
krj wrote in news:X4g1g.8034$iB2.4381
@bignews4.bellsouth.net:


It's not the human crap that is toxic, it's the nitrogen from
fertilizers used on lawns, oil run off from dripping cars, phosphates,
etc. that is toxic mixed with everything else.



Well? There's none of that stuff in a sailboat toilet. So, why can't we
just pump it overboard like the whales, manatees and dolphins do?

STupid isn't it?

Exactly my point!
krj

Any VC 17M users?
 

On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:01:00 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

I'm about to paint the bottom with another coat of Interlux VC 17 M.
The data sheet is a bit ambiguous. In one place it seems to say that
old paint should be sanded. In another is says sanding is not
necessary when the old paint is VC 17 M.

I think I remember the yard that put the VC 17 M over the VC 17 that
came with the boat saying that all that needed to be done is go over
the surface with a Scotch Brite pad.

Anybody out there successfully recoated with VC 17 M without sanding?

My wife used a Scotch Brite pad on VC17 last week and put on VC 17M
over it with no visible problems. Looks fine, if a little thin. A
second coat will be needed before launch.

YMMV
R.

Any VC 17M users?
 

On 16 Apr 2006 10:04:39 -0700, wrote:

Roger, up north we just powerwash in the Fall and use a Scotch pad to
buff in the Spring.Generally, I don't believe it is rec'd for salt
water.It is very low in Cu and, you could always add more. I have had
medium to low results in the Ches. Good luck, it is good paint.

Roger, I didn't realize you were in salt. VC17 and 17M didn't fare
well in a Practical Sailor review a couple of issues back. I use it in
Lake Ontario because it works here well with the zebra mussels and
slime, but it's only 20% copper. Other bottom paints might do better
in New England.

R.

Any VC 17M users?
 

You're quite right. This isn't the paint I would use for maximum
performance but I'm stuck with it until I want to tackle the big and
expensive project of stripping the hull.

OTOH, the spring reapplication is quite easy and an attractive
feature. Overall, it might be less trouble to give it a scrub mid
season than deal with the sanding mess that other paints require.

As a cruiser, I was only just starting to notice the loss of
performance in September.

--

Roger Long



"rhys" wrote in message
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On 16 Apr 2006 10:04:39 -0700, wrote:

Roger, up north we just powerwash in the Fall and use a Scotch pad
to
buff in the Spring.Generally, I don't believe it is rec'd for salt
water.It is very low in Cu and, you could always add more. I have
had
medium to low results in the Ches. Good luck, it is good paint.

Roger, I didn't realize you were in salt. VC17 and 17M didn't fare
well in a Practical Sailor review a couple of issues back. I use it
in
Lake Ontario because it works here well with the zebra mussels and
slime, but it's only 20% copper. Other bottom paints might do better
in New England.

R.

Any VC 17M users?
 

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:10:16 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

You're quite right. This isn't the paint I would use for maximum
performance but I'm stuck with it until I want to tackle the big and
expensive project of stripping the hull.

OTOH, the spring reapplication is quite easy and an attractive
feature. Overall, it might be less trouble to give it a scrub mid
season than deal with the sanding mess that other paints require.

As a cruiser, I was only just starting to notice the loss of
performance in September.

I can't argue with your logic, Roger. Assuming the water there ever
gets bearable (or you anchor in a shallow pond that gets warm), just
anchor on a calm day in six-six of water and get the family over the
side with the appropriate squeegees, etc.

Of coruse, the best solution is to keep the boat moving enough that
growth doesn't take hold. This is regrettably not always possible...

R.