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padeen April 15th 06 09:35 PM

Diving from a double-ender?
 
I have a Hans Christian 38T I want to dive from. Anyone know the options
for getting back aboard w/ full scuba? Any "plan B" suggestions?
Thanks,
Brad
s/v Aldonza



Bob April 16th 06 03:42 AM

Diving from a double-ender?
 

padeen wrote:
I have a Hans Christian 38T I want to dive from. Anyone know the options
for getting back aboard w/ full scuba? Any "plan B" suggestions?
Thanks,
Brad
s/v Aldonza



Hi:
Do you have a topside tender?

If not..................... remove all gear and put in a bag/net/brail.
Crawl out of water on to boat.
Pull in the sport scuba stuff.
Got a tender? If so, thats his problem. Your a diver not a tender!
Bob
DIT 107/80


MMC April 16th 06 04:15 PM

Diving from a double-ender?
 
I agree with Bob, been there-done that, got the t-shirt! Sounds like Bob is
or was a Navy Diver.
I use a line with a snap hook, like a fish stringer: ditch my weights (toss
on the boat first), then string tank, bc, mask, and fins last. All while
maintaining contact with the boat, of course.
MMC
"Bob" wrote in message
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padeen wrote:
I have a Hans Christian 38T I want to dive from. Anyone know the

options
for getting back aboard w/ full scuba? Any "plan B" suggestions?
Thanks,
Brad
s/v Aldonza



Hi:
Do you have a topside tender?

If not..................... remove all gear and put in a bag/net/brail.
Crawl out of water on to boat.
Pull in the sport scuba stuff.
Got a tender? If so, thats his problem. Your a diver not a tender!
Bob
DIT 107/80




Bob April 16th 06 11:29 PM

Diving from a double-ender?
 

MMC wrote:
I agree with Bob, been there-done that, got the t-shirt! Sounds like Bob is
or was a Navy Diver.


Hi MMC:

Close.......... I went to a trade school in Ballard WA 1980. All the
instructors were ex Navy salvage guys with a couple SEALS doing the
Mark V indoc dives and open circuit scuba.
Later I went to the GOM to seak my fortune in the offshore oil field.

Interestingly enough I may head down there again next
year................. But certainly not as a knight of the deep. A bit
too much water under the bridge for that.
Shallow Water Bob
Ex mud duck


AMPowers April 17th 06 09:14 AM

Diving from a double-ender?
 
Plan B suggestions:

Well, for starters this may sound obvious, but do not remove your fins
until you finished with everything else.

I've seen a few solutions while out cruising. A clever one was a small
floating platform that was lowered over the side or transom and attached
along side the boat. Diver climbed up onto it, removed gear onto boat,
then hauled it back up from davits. This same float arrangement was
used as a dingy dock for arriving guests. It was about 5' x 3' x 4",
made of Styrofoam blocks covered in fiberglass, with a padding area
running around the sides and cleats attached inboard of the edges.

Another was a dive ladder that had a davit above it. Diver attached his
BCD and weight belt, then flippers to it, climbed aboard, the hauled up
his gear.

Hope this helps.

Robb

padeen wrote:
I have a Hans Christian 38T I want to dive from. Anyone know the options
for getting back aboard w/ full scuba? Any "plan B" suggestions?
Thanks,
Brad
s/v Aldonza



MMC April 17th 06 02:10 PM

Diving from a double-ender?
 
Mark V? So it's been a couple years? I got Mark V training in '82. I think
we were the last class.
MMC
"Bob" wrote in message
oups.com...

MMC wrote:
I agree with Bob, been there-done that, got the t-shirt! Sounds like Bob

is
or was a Navy Diver.


Hi MMC:

Close.......... I went to a trade school in Ballard WA 1980. All the
instructors were ex Navy salvage guys with a couple SEALS doing the
Mark V indoc dives and open circuit scuba.
Later I went to the GOM to seak my fortune in the offshore oil field.

Interestingly enough I may head down there again next
year................. But certainly not as a knight of the deep. A bit
too much water under the bridge for that.
Shallow Water Bob
Ex mud duck




Rosalie B. April 17th 06 03:00 PM

Diving from a double-ender?
 
We don't have a double ender, but we also don't have a swim platform.
We always put the dinghy in the water and put the gear into the dinghy
and then climb the swim ladder and haul up the dinghy onto the davits.

Dinghy davits and swim ladders do not have to be off the stern. They
can be on the side of the boat. We have tried using a ladder that
hooks onto the rail, but it wasn't long enough for me to use - i.e. it
didn't extend below the water. But that might work depending on how
much freeboard you have.

AMPowers wrote:

Plan B suggestions:

Well, for starters this may sound obvious, but do not remove your fins
until you finished with everything else.

I've seen a few solutions while out cruising. A clever one was a small
floating platform that was lowered over the side or transom and attached
along side the boat. Diver climbed up onto it, removed gear onto boat,
then hauled it back up from davits. This same float arrangement was
used as a dingy dock for arriving guests. It was about 5' x 3' x 4",
made of Styrofoam blocks covered in fiberglass, with a padding area
running around the sides and cleats attached inboard of the edges.

Another was a dive ladder that had a davit above it. Diver attached his
BCD and weight belt, then flippers to it, climbed aboard, the hauled up
his gear.

Hope this helps.

Robb

padeen wrote:
I have a Hans Christian 38T I want to dive from. Anyone know the options
for getting back aboard w/ full scuba? Any "plan B" suggestions?
Thanks,
Brad
s/v Aldonza



grandma Rosalie

Bob April 17th 06 04:29 PM

Diving from a double-ender?
 

MMC wrote:
Mark V? So it's been a couple years? I got Mark V training in '82. I think
we were the last class.
MMC



Hi MMC:

Were you in the Navy, go to Divers Institute of Technology or another
civilian dive schools?

For me I was in class 107/80 at DIT. I can still hear that over
enthusiastic ex SEAL yelling "sit up straight .......... you make the
suit look bad!"

Humm.... No more Mark V orientation? That's too bad. At the time I
was at DIT, 1980, I think there were only 1-2 other civilian schools
that had their students experience it... So goes the dinosaurs. There
was a guy I found on another group who had actually dove the HeO2
version of the Mark V while in the Navy. Now that must have been a
monster of a suit.

Positive buoyant Bob


Bob April 17th 06 04:39 PM

Diving from a double-ender?
 

padeen wrote:
I have a Hans Christian 38T I want to dive from. Anyone know the options
for getting back aboard w/ full scuba?
Thanks,
Brad



Hi Brad:
Have you thought of a much simpler idea?
Forget the sport scuba stuff.
As you have found: Heavy, expensive, where do you get a source of 3000
psi air, cubersom in the water, too much to store on board a 38' boat,
too much opportunity to get fouled in the water, and now the colors on
the sports equipment are for sissies or girls. In my humble opinion a
very dangerous method to put a diver at depth.

Try free diving.
Mask
Snorkel
Fins............. optional but very powerful

The more you do it the easier it is.
Be sides.....
Something about our blood and ocean salinty simular
Didn't we have gills at some time while a fetus?
Sounds commpelling to me.
Bob


News f2s April 17th 06 09:47 PM

Diving from a double-ender?
 

Positive buoyant Bob


Lucky sod. I sink, unless I take an exceptionally deep breath!

Still learning . . .

Which university?
--
JimB
http://www.jimbaerselman.f2s.com/
Describing some Greek and Spanish cruising areas




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