Diving from a double-ender?
 

I have a Hans Christian 38T I want to dive from. Anyone know the options
for getting back aboard w/ full scuba? Any "plan B" suggestions?
Thanks,
Brad
s/v Aldonza

Diving from a double-ender?
 

padeen wrote:
I have a Hans Christian 38T I want to dive from. Anyone know the options
for getting back aboard w/ full scuba? Any "plan B" suggestions?
Thanks,
Brad
s/v Aldonza


Hi:
Do you have a topside tender?

If not..................... remove all gear and put in a bag/net/brail.
Crawl out of water on to boat.
Pull in the sport scuba stuff.
Got a tender? If so, thats his problem. Your a diver not a tender!
Bob
DIT 107/80

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I agree with Bob, been there-done that, got the t-shirt! Sounds like Bob is
or was a Navy Diver.
I use a line with a snap hook, like a fish stringer: ditch my weights (toss
on the boat first), then string tank, bc, mask, and fins last. All while
maintaining contact with the boat, of course.
MMC
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padeen wrote:
I have a Hans Christian 38T I want to dive from. Anyone know the
options
for getting back aboard w/ full scuba? Any "plan B" suggestions?
Thanks,
Brad
s/v Aldonza


Hi:
Do you have a topside tender?

If not..................... remove all gear and put in a bag/net/brail.
Crawl out of water on to boat.
Pull in the sport scuba stuff.
Got a tender? If so, thats his problem. Your a diver not a tender!
Bob
DIT 107/80

Diving from a double-ender?
 

MMC wrote:
I agree with Bob, been there-done that, got the t-shirt! Sounds like Bob is
or was a Navy Diver.

Hi MMC:

Close.......... I went to a trade school in Ballard WA 1980. All the
instructors were ex Navy salvage guys with a couple SEALS doing the
Mark V indoc dives and open circuit scuba.
Later I went to the GOM to seak my fortune in the offshore oil field.

Interestingly enough I may head down there again next
year................. But certainly not as a knight of the deep. A bit
too much water under the bridge for that.
Shallow Water Bob
Ex mud duck

Diving from a double-ender?
 

Plan B suggestions:

Well, for starters this may sound obvious, but do not remove your fins
until you finished with everything else.

I've seen a few solutions while out cruising. A clever one was a small
floating platform that was lowered over the side or transom and attached
along side the boat. Diver climbed up onto it, removed gear onto boat,
then hauled it back up from davits. This same float arrangement was
used as a dingy dock for arriving guests. It was about 5' x 3' x 4",
made of Styrofoam blocks covered in fiberglass, with a padding area
running around the sides and cleats attached inboard of the edges.

Another was a dive ladder that had a davit above it. Diver attached his
BCD and weight belt, then flippers to it, climbed aboard, the hauled up
his gear.

Hope this helps.

Robb

padeen wrote:
I have a Hans Christian 38T I want to dive from. Anyone know the options
for getting back aboard w/ full scuba? Any "plan B" suggestions?
Thanks,
Brad
s/v Aldonza

Diving from a double-ender?
 

Mark V? So it's been a couple years? I got Mark V training in '82. I think
we were the last class.
MMC
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MMC wrote:
I agree with Bob, been there-done that, got the t-shirt! Sounds like Bob
is
or was a Navy Diver.

Hi MMC:

Close.......... I went to a trade school in Ballard WA 1980. All the
instructors were ex Navy salvage guys with a couple SEALS doing the
Mark V indoc dives and open circuit scuba.
Later I went to the GOM to seak my fortune in the offshore oil field.

Interestingly enough I may head down there again next
year................. But certainly not as a knight of the deep. A bit
too much water under the bridge for that.
Shallow Water Bob
Ex mud duck

Diving from a double-ender?
 

We don't have a double ender, but we also don't have a swim platform.
We always put the dinghy in the water and put the gear into the dinghy
and then climb the swim ladder and haul up the dinghy onto the davits.

Dinghy davits and swim ladders do not have to be off the stern. They
can be on the side of the boat. We have tried using a ladder that
hooks onto the rail, but it wasn't long enough for me to use - i.e. it
didn't extend below the water. But that might work depending on how
much freeboard you have.

AMPowers wrote:

Plan B suggestions:

Well, for starters this may sound obvious, but do not remove your fins
until you finished with everything else.

I've seen a few solutions while out cruising. A clever one was a small
floating platform that was lowered over the side or transom and attached
along side the boat. Diver climbed up onto it, removed gear onto boat,
then hauled it back up from davits. This same float arrangement was
used as a dingy dock for arriving guests. It was about 5' x 3' x 4",
made of Styrofoam blocks covered in fiberglass, with a padding area
running around the sides and cleats attached inboard of the edges.

Another was a dive ladder that had a davit above it. Diver attached his
BCD and weight belt, then flippers to it, climbed aboard, the hauled up
his gear.

Hope this helps.

Robb

padeen wrote:
I have a Hans Christian 38T I want to dive from. Anyone know the options
for getting back aboard w/ full scuba? Any "plan B" suggestions?
Thanks,
Brad
s/v Aldonza



grandma Rosalie

Diving from a double-ender?
 

MMC wrote:
Mark V? So it's been a couple years? I got Mark V training in '82. I think
we were the last class.
MMC


Hi MMC:

Were you in the Navy, go to Divers Institute of Technology or another
civilian dive schools?

For me I was in class 107/80 at DIT. I can still hear that over
enthusiastic ex SEAL yelling "sit up straight .......... you make the
suit look bad!"

Humm.... No more Mark V orientation? That's too bad. At the time I
was at DIT, 1980, I think there were only 1-2 other civilian schools
that had their students experience it... So goes the dinosaurs. There
was a guy I found on another group who had actually dove the HeO2
version of the Mark V while in the Navy. Now that must have been a
monster of a suit.

Positive buoyant Bob

Diving from a double-ender?
 

padeen wrote:
I have a Hans Christian 38T I want to dive from. Anyone know the options
for getting back aboard w/ full scuba?
Thanks,
Brad


Hi Brad:
Have you thought of a much simpler idea?
Forget the sport scuba stuff.
As you have found: Heavy, expensive, where do you get a source of 3000
psi air, cubersom in the water, too much to store on board a 38' boat,
too much opportunity to get fouled in the water, and now the colors on
the sports equipment are for sissies or girls. In my humble opinion a
very dangerous method to put a diver at depth.

Try free diving.
Mask
Snorkel
Fins............. optional but very powerful

The more you do it the easier it is.
Be sides.....
Something about our blood and ocean salinty simular
Didn't we have gills at some time while a fetus?
Sounds commpelling to me.
Bob

Diving from a double-ender?
 

Positive buoyant Bob

Lucky sod. I sink, unless I take an exceptionally deep breath!

Still learning . . .

Which university?
--
JimB
http://www.jimbaerselman.f2s.com/
Describing some Greek and Spanish cruising areas

Diving from a double-ender?
 

"Bob" wrote in message

Forget the sport scuba stuff.
As you have found: Heavy, expensive, where do you get a source
of 3000
psi air, cubersom in the water, too much to store on board a 38'
boat,
too much opportunity to get fouled in the water, and now the
colors on
the sports equipment are for sissies or girls. In my humble
opinion a
very dangerous method to put a diver at depth.

Try free diving.
Mask
Snorkel
Fins............. optional but very powerful

How far d'ya get Bob? I can just hack 10m, but I've had loads of
practice tying trips to anchors. If its a fiddly knot, its only
going to be 7m.
--
JimB
http://www.jimbaerselman.f2s.com/
Describing some Greek and Spanish cruising areas

Diving from a double-ender?
 

I was Navy. Don't know if the commercial schools continued use of the Mk 5
after we put them in mothballs.
Navy Diving was generally behind the commercial world when it came to gear,
I believe you commercial guys were using the Superlight when we came out
with the Mk 12, which was a real overpriced POS.
Navy just went to the Superlight in the last few years.
I dove the Superlight for a while as a commercial diver after I got out and
think it's the best thing going.
MMC
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MMC wrote:
Mark V? So it's been a couple years? I got Mark V training in '82. I
think
we were the last class.
MMC


Hi MMC:

Were you in the Navy, go to Divers Institute of Technology or another
civilian dive schools?

For me I was in class 107/80 at DIT. I can still hear that over
enthusiastic ex SEAL yelling "sit up straight .......... you make the
suit look bad!"

Humm.... No more Mark V orientation? That's too bad. At the time I
was at DIT, 1980, I think there were only 1-2 other civilian schools
that had their students experience it... So goes the dinosaurs. There
was a guy I found on another group who had actually dove the HeO2
version of the Mark V while in the Navy. Now that must have been a
monster of a suit.

Positive buoyant Bob

Diving from a double-ender?
 

MMC wrote:
I was Navy.

A real diver................ !

Don't know if the commercial schools continued use of the Mk 5
after we put them in mothballs.

The school I went to was using them through out the 1980s Sort of a
"right of passage."
NOdoubt you saw the movie "Men of Honor." I think the Mark V stuff was
loaned from the
DIT school in Seattle. I suspect the civilian schools still use them.

Navy Diving was generally behind the commercial world when it came to gear,
I believe you commercial guys were using the Superlight when we came out
with the Mk 12, which was a real overpriced POS.

Ya, but it sure looked cool. That alone was worth the extrat $1000.

Navy just went to the Superlight in the last few years.
I dove the Superlight for a while as a commercial diver after I got out and
think it's the best thing going.

Personally I really enjoyed some of the old fiberglass air hats for
brownwater stuff.
Finally was able to get my hands on an old MIiler. I enjoyed that till
I went back home to Oregon to lick my wounds.

Who did you work for?
I ended up in Morgan City, LA with an outfit called Ocean Tec. Their
shop was a couple blocks from Oceaneering's in Patterson, LA. Most
the guys from my school went with a company called International
Oilfield Divers. They (IOD) were a real low bid operation. Lots of
horror stories from those guys.
Still Bobing

Diving from a double-ender?
 

News f2s wrote:
Positive buoyant Bob

Lucky sod. I sink, unless I take an exceptionally deep breath!

Hi Jim:

In my younger days I too would sinik like a rock. Thats why I got
interested in under water breathing systems. I though if I was going to
end up on the bottom of the pool I should at least have a way to
breath.

I do not have that problem now. In fact, my desity, or I should say
lack, is beginging to be a problem. Although the extra fat has extended
my cold water exposure time dramatically.

Count your blesings if you sink. I'm told you'll live longer!
Bob


Still learning . . .

Which university?

Small regional 4 year liberal arts. College of A&S.
And you?


--
JimB
http://www.jimbaerselman.f2s.com/
Describing some Greek and Spanish cruising areas

Diving from a double-ender?
 

Thanks for the info, all. Sounds like the dink is the way to go for me.
Brad
s/v Aldonza


"padeen" wrote in message
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I have a Hans Christian 38T I want to dive from. Anyone know the options
for getting back aboard w/ full scuba? Any "plan B" suggestions?
Thanks,
Brad
s/v Aldonza

Diving from a double-ender?
 

I own a HC 38T myself and have been thinking on a way to board the boat
after a dive. My plan so far is to either have the dink in the water
and unload to that. Or what I think I will end up doing is taking off
all my gear clipping it to a looped line that I will (after climbing
aboard via the swim ladder) haul aboard either using a block and
tackle from the boom swung over to one side of the boat or I will use
my handy little "crane" that i use to raise and lower my dink engine
with.

Did any of that make sense?

CB...

Diving from a double-ender?
 

"Bob" wrote in message

Count your blesings if you sink. I'm told you'll live longer!
Bob

Still learning . . .

Which university?

Small regional 4 year liberal arts. College of A&S.
And you?

RAF College Cranwell (UK), 3yr military and aeronautics, then more
aeronautics, then business. Still ignorant.
--
JimB
http://www.jimbaerselman.f2s.com/
Describing some Greek and Spanish cruising areas

Diving from a double-ender?
 

Actually, I went through 2nd Class Diver training, then on to Explosive
Ordnance Disposal.
Both schools have helped me keep the family fed!
After I got out of the Nav, I worked for Seaward Marine cleaning Navy ships
hulls, then EG&G working on subs and other things for the Navy. When I came
back from Kuwait I worked for Continental Shelf and a couple little BS
companies doing inshore work.
I was working a U/W construction job at the FPL plant in Port Lauderdale and
walked when I came topside and the supe and standby were smoking dope and
the project manager didn't do anything about it. Had to reconsider working
for the South Florida types!
In the mid 90s, I got a job offer to work in the gulf, 6 bucks an hour with
the first year choking rope, had to pass it up. That industry isn't what it
used to be!
Haven't been paid to get wet since I got a full time job doing EOD. Don't
feel like such an old man at 46 doing this stuff!
MMC

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MMC wrote:
I was Navy.

A real diver................ !

Don't know if the commercial schools continued use of the Mk 5
after we put them in mothballs.

The school I went to was using them through out the 1980s Sort of a
"right of passage."
NOdoubt you saw the movie "Men of Honor." I think the Mark V stuff was
loaned from the
DIT school in Seattle. I suspect the civilian schools still use them.

Navy Diving was generally behind the commercial world when it came to
gear,
I believe you commercial guys were using the Superlight when we came out
with the Mk 12, which was a real overpriced POS.

Ya, but it sure looked cool. That alone was worth the extrat $1000.

Navy just went to the Superlight in the last few years.
I dove the Superlight for a while as a commercial diver after I got out
and
think it's the best thing going.

Personally I really enjoyed some of the old fiberglass air hats for
brownwater stuff.
Finally was able to get my hands on an old MIiler. I enjoyed that till
I went back home to Oregon to lick my wounds.

Who did you work for?
I ended up in Morgan City, LA with an outfit called Ocean Tec. Their
shop was a couple blocks from Oceaneering's in Patterson, LA. Most
the guys from my school went with a company called International
Oilfield Divers. They (IOD) were a real low bid operation. Lots of
horror stories from those guys.
Still Bobing