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Don White March 11th 06 09:04 PM

Procedure changes
 
Capt. JG wrote:
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...

What's your vote for the stern retrieval, three part tackle or line coiled
and ready to be led to a sheet winch?



For a stern retrieval? Hmmm... it would have to be very calm conditions for
me to try it. That said, you have the backstay, I would have some line
handy. Of course, if the person is unable to help, you'll have trouble with
that method.



In our AP calss they showed us how to tie a 'bowline on a bight' to help
retrieve a man overboard. Hopefully you could slip both legs through
the double loups and hang on.

Dennis Pogson March 12th 06 10:44 AM

Procedure changes
 
Don White wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...

What's your vote for the stern retrieval, three part tackle or line
coiled and ready to be led to a sheet winch?



For a stern retrieval? Hmmm... it would have to be very calm
conditions for me to try it. That said, you have the backstay, I
would have some line handy. Of course, if the person is unable to
help, you'll have trouble with that method.



In our AP calss they showed us how to tie a 'bowline on a bight' to
help retrieve a man overboard. Hopefully you could slip both legs
through the double loups and hang on.


If he's hanging onto the toerail for dear life, it would be necessary for
you to jump in alongside him to get his legs thru the bowline loops. Then
somone would have to do the same for you. Good practice though!

Dennis.




Gary March 14th 06 03:10 PM

Procedure changes
 
Capt. JG wrote:
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...

What's your vote for the stern retrieval, three part tackle or line coiled
and ready to be led to a sheet winch?



For a stern retrieval? Hmmm... it would have to be very calm conditions for
me to try it. That said, you have the backstay, I would have some line
handy. Of course, if the person is unable to help, you'll have trouble with
that method.

While sailing this weekend I was looking at this problem. Roger is
right and using the vang would be difficult. I then thought about the
lee runner. It is loose, has a four to one purchase and a snap shackle.
It would be pretty easy to put a sling on it and lower it to a man in
the water.

Comments?

Roger Long March 14th 06 03:59 PM

Procedure changes
 
Sound's perfect.

I wish I had runners (and the self tacking staysail to go with them:)

--

Roger Long



"Gary" wrote in message
news:A1BRf.143636$B94.105427@pd7tw3no...
Capt. JG wrote:
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...

What's your vote for the stern retrieval, three part tackle or line
coiled and ready to be led to a sheet winch?



For a stern retrieval? Hmmm... it would have to be very calm
conditions for me to try it. That said, you have the backstay, I
would have some line handy. Of course, if the person is unable to
help, you'll have trouble with that method.

While sailing this weekend I was looking at this problem. Roger is
right and using the vang would be difficult. I then thought about
the lee runner. It is loose, has a four to one purchase and a snap
shackle. It would be pretty easy to put a sling on it and lower it
to a man in the water.

Comments?




Capt. JG March 14th 06 07:59 PM

Procedure changes
 
"Gary" wrote in message
news:A1BRf.143636$B94.105427@pd7tw3no...
Capt. JG wrote:
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...

What's your vote for the stern retrieval, three part tackle or line
coiled and ready to be led to a sheet winch?



For a stern retrieval? Hmmm... it would have to be very calm conditions
for me to try it. That said, you have the backstay, I would have some
line handy. Of course, if the person is unable to help, you'll have
trouble with that method.

While sailing this weekend I was looking at this problem. Roger is right
and using the vang would be difficult. I then thought about the lee
runner. It is loose, has a four to one purchase and a snap shackle. It
would be pretty easy to put a sling on it and lower it to a man in the
water.

Comments?


Seems like that would work fine.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Ryk March 20th 06 06:31 PM

Procedure changes
 
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:10:24 GMT, in message
A1BRf.143636$B94.105427@pd7tw3no
Gary wrote:

While sailing this weekend I was looking at this problem. Roger is
right and using the vang would be difficult. I then thought about the
lee runner. It is loose, has a four to one purchase and a snap shackle.
It would be pretty easy to put a sling on it and lower it to a man in
the water.

Comments?


How do you make sure it stays the *lee* runner? Would an accidental
jibe during the process endanger your rig or just make the sail shape
lousy?

How high can you lift the COB using the runner purchase if the runner
is brought forward to amidships on the lee side?

Ryk


Gary March 21st 06 01:38 AM

Procedure changes
 
Ryk wrote:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:10:24 GMT, in message
A1BRf.143636$B94.105427@pd7tw3no
Gary wrote:


While sailing this weekend I was looking at this problem. Roger is
right and using the vang would be difficult. I then thought about the
lee runner. It is loose, has a four to one purchase and a snap shackle.
It would be pretty easy to put a sling on it and lower it to a man in
the water.

Comments?



How do you make sure it stays the *lee* runner? Would an accidental
jibe during the process endanger your rig or just make the sail shape
lousy?

How high can you lift the COB using the runner purchase if the runner
is brought forward to amidships on the lee side?

Ryk

My mast will stay up without runners. They were put there for insurance
(overkill) by a previous owner.

I could lift the COB so his feet are off the deck. The top block is
chest high.

Gaz


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