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Charging batteries simultaneously with both solar and wind
Or you could just touch your tong between the posts:-)
------ no I am joking DON'T do that I didn't think about bad batteries because my mind was thinking typical power hog. You can sort of fix crystallized batteries by over charging them to 16.8 volts and then beading off the excess charge. That melts most of the crystallization that happens. There is also some acid that you can buy to add to your cells that prolongs the life of batteries but I a big believer in changing batteries about every 2 years. Call it cost of ownership and live with it because it is better and safer for not that much money. |
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Charging batteries simultaneously with both solar and wind
"Da Kine" wrote in
oups.com: You can sort of fix crystallized batteries by over charging them to 16.8 volts and then beading off the excess charge. That melts most of the crystallization that happens. There is also some acid that you can buy to add to your cells that prolongs the life of batteries but I a big believer in changing batteries about every 2 years. Call it cost of ownership and live with it because it is better and safer for not that much money. All a disaster waiting to happen. Adding acid to electrolyte to "rejuvenate" dead cells is SUICIDE! The lead was eaten away from the plates and crystallized into the bottom of the battery, in the space provided for it. You come along and add acid, eating holes in already weakened plates, possibly creating a shorting hazard so the battery explodes. You have to see a boat whos battery has exploded to realize what damage that does. Please don't add acid to a dead cell, please? Going to sea with crap batteries is stupid! Batteries are cheap unless you suck up to some idiotic gauze batteries for $600 by some slick salesman in boat shoes. Golf cart batteries are throwaway consumables at $89 a pop. Use them. They work great for years, and when something doesn't start to look right, TOSS THEM to the battery recycler pile and BUY NEW ONES from a BATTERY SHOP, not a boat store! I like your idea of the 2-year swap, but cheap golf cart batteries will last much longer if one takes care of them properly.... When you zap a battery with 16.8V at really high current, the good cells boil like hell, possibly warping a plate and causing an explosion. NEVER do this crazy crap! You are NOT going to "save" a dead cell...its acid is used up, its plates are eaten away, its full of lead sulphate crystals...buy a NEW ONE. |
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Charging batteries simultaneously with both solar and wind
" Adding acid to electrolyte to "rejuvenate" dead cells is SUICIDE!"
The bottle of stuff is sold in most auto stores. It's not my idea. I've used it before and it works. The lead is not the problem. Its sulfur crystals formed from gassing and when you add water, the sulfuric acid gets a little weaker as some of the sulfide stays crystallized. Shorting just lowers the voltage you can get but it doesn't blow up batteries as far as I have ever seen. Hydrogen is given off and that might but crystals don't. Now as for your view on buying new batteries, I'm right with you. I buy Wal-mart batteries and they last me 2 years before I dump them. Even if they are working pretty well, I like really good and easy to charge batteries. For what I put into my boat, an average of $180 to $200 a year is nothing. I've been told by owners that the 6 volt batteries are the best but I have never liked the idea of losing one and really losing 2. Maybe next time I will give them a try. As for the 16.8 volt thing, the majority of high end chargers all offer that. It can't be that bad can it? I'm still into just buying new ones but I know people that zap theirs and they say it works for them. |
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Da Kine wrote:
[snip] I've been told by owners that the 6 volt batteries are the best but I have never liked the idea of losing one and really losing 2. Maybe next time I will give them a try. As for the 16.8 volt thing, the majority of high end chargers all offer that. It can't be that bad can it? I'm still into just buying new ones but I know people that zap theirs and they say it works for them. hi da kine, the 6 volts are "better" because of plate thickness and material used to make the plates, and they are sometimes easier to service, and they can have tougher boxes so they are harder to puncture, but that's about it. plate thickness is the biggest thing, with thicker plates being able to handle a lot more use. i don't replace mine like you do, i just "over-charge" them sometimes and watch the water levels. it's really not much use to get heavier better made batteries if you don't gas them sometimes because they'll get crap on the plates just as fast as a walmart marine battery and quit holding a charge after enough cycles. the heavier plates are most useful to people who aren't afraid to gas them on occasion like you are supposed to. |
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