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RIchard March 1st 06 01:49 PM

Non skid deck paint
 
I am painting the cockpit on my 38 Bertram and I am looking for
feedback. I am looking at Interlux Interdeck and West Sea Gloss Pro. I
would like to maintain the existing deck look
as much as possible, I will be painting the flybridge floor area also.
I have some experience with Algrip using the sand that is added to the
paint. The sand approach is hard to get a uniform layer of sand in my
experience. I do not won't a real aggressive deck but something that
is similiar to the original deck with non skid qualities. I understand
the Interdeck is not very aggressive, maybe not aggressive enough. I
have seen the Sea Gloss Pro and it has the same old sand look to it.

Looking for feedback on this application ?


Dennis Pogson March 1st 06 04:54 PM

Non skid deck paint
 
RIchard wrote:
I am painting the cockpit on my 38 Bertram and I am looking for
feedback. I am looking at Interlux Interdeck and West Sea Gloss Pro. I
would like to maintain the existing deck look
as much as possible, I will be painting the flybridge floor area also.
I have some experience with Algrip using the sand that is added to the
paint. The sand approach is hard to get a uniform layer of sand in my
experience. I do not won't a real aggressive deck but something that
is similiar to the original deck with non skid qualities. I
understand the Interdeck is not very aggressive, maybe not aggressive
enough. I have seen the Sea Gloss Pro and it has the same old sand
look to it.

Looking for feedback on this application ?


Interlux Interdeck used to give a superb non-slip uniform finish unless they
have changed the formula.

Dennis.



Bob March 1st 06 07:17 PM

Non skid deck paint
 

About to do the same when the temprature agrees. Seem to remember a
past post recomending swimming pool deck paint. Cheep... durrable...
lots of colours.

Anybody have any experience with the pool deck paint?
Bob


Helbergon March 1st 06 11:52 PM

Non skid deck paint
 
Have you looked into DURABAK ?
http://www.nonslipcoating.com/

On 1 Mar 2006 05:49:23 -0800, "RIchard" wrote:

I am painting the cockpit on my 38 Bertram and I am looking for
feedback. I am looking at Interlux Interdeck and West Sea Gloss Pro. I
would like to maintain the existing deck look
as much as possible, I will be painting the flybridge floor area also.
I have some experience with Algrip using the sand that is added to the
paint. The sand approach is hard to get a uniform layer of sand in my
experience. I do not won't a real aggressive deck but something that
is similiar to the original deck with non skid qualities. I understand
the Interdeck is not very aggressive, maybe not aggressive enough. I
have seen the Sea Gloss Pro and it has the same old sand look to it.

Looking for feedback on this application ?



Garland Gray II March 2nd 06 12:04 AM

Non skid deck paint
 
Last year I built a hard top bimini (that would be walked on for sail
furling) and painted it with Interlux Perfection 2 part poly, and mixed in
Interlux Intergrip. I was very satisfied with it. You can mix in whatever is
needed to be as agressive as you want. I rolled it and it was quite uniform.
Since the material is light, perhaps it doesn't settle in the paint.
Literature says it won't collect dirt as bad as natural grit, so it has to
be so, right ?
Working inside, the fumes were right potent, but if you are outside that
wouldn't be a problem.

"RIchard" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am painting the cockpit on my 38 Bertram and I am looking for
feedback. I am looking at Interlux Interdeck and West Sea Gloss Pro. I
would like to maintain the existing deck look
as much as possible, I will be painting the flybridge floor area also.
I have some experience with Algrip using the sand that is added to the
paint. The sand approach is hard to get a uniform layer of sand in my
experience. I do not won't a real aggressive deck but something that
is similiar to the original deck with non skid qualities. I understand
the Interdeck is not very aggressive, maybe not aggressive enough. I
have seen the Sea Gloss Pro and it has the same old sand look to it.

Looking for feedback on this application ?




Arrie March 2nd 06 02:32 AM

Non skid deck paint
 

Garland,

Do you have any pictures of the construction of your Bimini? I'm
thinking of making one.

How did you do it? Email reply is OK, but delete the "bimini" from my addr.

Thanks,
Jeff

"Garland Gray II" wrote in
news:PEqNf.68$3k1.27@dukeread03:

Last year I built a hard top bimini (that would be walked on for sail
furling) and painted it with Interlux Perfection 2 part poly, and
mixed in Interlux Intergrip. I was very satisfied with it. You can mix
in whatever is needed to be as agressive as you want. I rolled it and
it was quite uniform. Since the material is light, perhaps it doesn't
settle in the paint. Literature says it won't collect dirt as bad as
natural grit, so it has to be so, right ?
Working inside, the fumes were right potent, but if you are outside
that wouldn't be a problem.


Garland Gray II March 2nd 06 03:40 AM

Non skid deck paint
 
Arrie,
I don't see your address, and don't have any pictures at the moment, so I'll
try to describe. If of interest, I could take some pictures later.
I should have said I built the bimini "top". I was speaking to the painted
surface.
I have a catamaran, so it has a big bimini.. It's about 7 1/2 feet long and
about 10 1/2 feet wide. I had a guy that makes tuna towers and the like out
of 1 1/2 inch aluminum pipe build a frame to my over all design. The details
were his. I had inspected several bimini frames on similar boats to
determine what I wanted.
The hard top was the middle 6 feet of width (Sunbrella on the extremities),
and he had made this of some 1/2 inch thick some kind of hard foam material
he said ws used for making signs. It was heavier than I liked, and was made
of two pieces, which resulted in a drip right over the helm.
So last winter, I got two 4 x8 sheets of 1/2 inch Decolite (thin frg skins
with a balsa core) and spliced them together. It's not cheap, but I figured
I'd save a lot of time using it. Glassed the rounded edges, and glued
boltrope track to the side edges, and painted it.
I've had close to 400 lb on it, so it's plenty strong.
This probably is not the direction you are headed, but if you are interested
let me know.

"Arrie" wrote in message
9.11...

Garland,

Do you have any pictures of the construction of your Bimini? I'm
thinking of making one.

How did you do it? Email reply is OK, but delete the "bimini" from my
addr.

Thanks,
Jeff

"Garland Gray II" wrote in
news:PEqNf.68$3k1.27@dukeread03:

Last year I built a hard top bimini (that would be walked on for sail
furling) and painted it with Interlux Perfection 2 part poly, and
mixed in Interlux Intergrip. I was very satisfied with it. You can mix
in whatever is needed to be as agressive as you want. I rolled it and
it was quite uniform. Since the material is light, perhaps it doesn't
settle in the paint. Literature says it won't collect dirt as bad as
natural grit, so it has to be so, right ?
Working inside, the fumes were right potent, but if you are outside
that wouldn't be a problem.




Evan Gatehouse March 3rd 06 04:38 AM

Non skid deck paint
 
Garland Gray II wrote:

I have a catamaran, so it has a big bimini.. It's about 7 1/2 feet long and
about 10 1/2 feet wide. I had a guy that makes tuna towers and the like out
of 1 1/2 inch aluminum pipe build a frame to my over all design. The details
were his. I had inspected several bimini frames on similar boats to
determine what I wanted.
The hard top was the middle 6 feet of width (Sunbrella on the extremities),
and he had made this of some 1/2 inch thick some kind of hard foam material


Thanks for that idea. I was wondering how the heck I was going to
furl the mainsail on my boat now that I have a bit cabin. Now I have
a use for the few left over sheets of Corecell I still have...

Evan Gatehouse



Michael Porter March 3rd 06 02:33 PM

Non skid deck paint
 
Take a look at ultratuff (http://www.ultratuff.net/)

It's a thich rubbery coating with bits of ground-up rubber in it
making a non-skid surface that's OK for bare feet too.

Cheers,

Michael Porter


"RIchard" wrote:

I am painting the cockpit on my 38 Bertram and I am looking for
feedback. I am looking at Interlux Interdeck and West Sea Gloss Pro. I
would like to maintain the existing deck look
as much as possible, I will be painting the flybridge floor area also.
I have some experience with Algrip using the sand that is added to the
paint. The sand approach is hard to get a uniform layer of sand in my
experience. I do not won't a real aggressive deck but something that
is similiar to the original deck with non skid qualities. I understand
the Interdeck is not very aggressive, maybe not aggressive enough. I
have seen the Sea Gloss Pro and it has the same old sand look to it.

Looking for feedback on this application ?


Michael Porter Naval Architect / Boatbuilder
mporter at mp-marine dot com
www.mp-marine.com
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Garland Gray II March 3rd 06 11:48 PM

Non skid deck paint
 
If you want to save weight (and be able to reduce the windage of the top
during a hurricane for example) by having removable Sunbrella side panels,
you can glue plastic (pvc ?) boltrope track to the side edges for the panels
to attach to.
Easy to incorporate clear plastic windows in the Sunbrella so you can see
the sails, and cover them as appropriate.

"Evan Gatehouse" wrote in message
...
Garland Gray II wrote:

I have a catamaran, so it has a big bimini.. It's about 7 1/2 feet long
and about 10 1/2 feet wide. I had a guy that makes tuna towers and the
like out of 1 1/2 inch aluminum pipe build a frame to my over all design.
The details were his. I had inspected several bimini frames on similar
boats to determine what I wanted.
The hard top was the middle 6 feet of width (Sunbrella on the
extremities), and he had made this of some 1/2 inch thick some kind of
hard foam material


Thanks for that idea. I was wondering how the heck I was going to furl
the mainsail on my boat now that I have a bit cabin. Now I have a use for
the few left over sheets of Corecell I still have...

Evan Gatehouse





Michael Porter March 6th 06 11:53 AM

Non skid deck paint
 
Yeah, that works, but when the sand is a different color from your top
coat (which it usually is) it looks a little funny when the paint
wears off the tops of the grains and not in the "valleys" , leaving
speckles.

You _can_ just dump a blanket of sand on and then sweep it up later.

Cheers,

Michael Porter


"Da Kine" wrote:

I don't know if this has been said yet but what ever you do, do not mix
sand in your paint! I did that 22 years ago and learned the hard way.

I've used just about everything there is in the way of non skid and
paint with sand is the best of all of them but what you do is a little
different that most people know to do. First, tape off an area you
want for non skid and be sure it is small enough that you can paint it
and leave it wet for at least a few minutes. Take a flower sifter and
add the grit. I used sand blasting sand once - another big mistake.
Use the synthetic stuff if you can't get walnut chip. A sifter will
spread the grit much nicer then anything else. The paint MUST be wet
when you add the grit. After the paint dries, sweep off the excess and
paint another coat over the top.

Of all the glue on, stick on, whatevers - sand in paint is the best
traction and easiest to fix to make look nice (oh yeah, save some paint
for fixing spots where your best friend drops your plow anchor).


Michael Porter Naval Architect / Boatbuilder
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Da Kine March 7th 06 07:38 AM

Non skid deck paint
 
that's a cool idea. I might try that since I am putting on a new coat
in about a week -


Evan Gatehouse March 8th 06 03:54 AM

Non skid deck paint
 
Da Kine wrote:
I've been using that 2 part (really 3 part) paint and it lasts about 10
years. i am about to put the first new coat on it 12 years next week so
that isn't a problem. I get my paint for about $89 for 1 gal. paint, 1
quart hardener, 2 quarts thinner from a place called metro Paint in
miami on 79th street. they ship too. i am adding that because it is
good stuff, any colour and lasts a long time for really cheap.


take a gun when you go though :-)


That seems like a very reasonable price. What brand of paint was it?

Evan Gatehouse


Da Kine March 8th 06 06:27 AM

Non skid deck paint
 
Here's what I found out - (spelling optional here)

I'm forgetting the names of all those popular brands right now but
there are sterling, interlux and a buch like that and then there is
allgrip. Apparently, they are all sold as clear and in huge 55 gallon
drums or something near that size. The individual companies buy it as a
generic paint, add color, label and market it as their own. Some have
their own hardeners or thinners but they still come from the same plant
(I think it is DuPont but I am not sure). They are all interchangeable
except Allgrip that is its own thing.

The same paint is what is used for auto painting and in fact more of it
is used there then anywhere. Metro paint sells the generic of both
types of paint, sterling and allgrip. Allgrip costs about $16 more per
1.5 gal setup if I recall. The guy that works there talked me out of
allgrip though and I cant remember all the reasons but basically its
not as easy to work with.

I first used it their paint on my boat in 1994 and it stayed very nice
until about 2 years ago when the gel coat started showing through. The
paint itself it fine where I didn't scrub it but most of the boat has
been scrubbed had and often. I cruised for nearly 5 years out in the
Caribbean on my boat then stored it in Miami. It wasn't until it got
whacked by Charley that I started noticing a reason to paint again.
Then after I got whacked again in Miami last October by Wilma and lost
my mast I decided it was time to paint again, so I am going to do it
when I get there in a week or two,.

In the mean time, I worked on a bunch of boats and used the same paint
not less then 10 times and had great results with it. I never sprayed
the paint so it was never perfect but with white, on a topside, it
looks really nice. Beware that on the cabin sides it was good and you
can't notice the ripples unless you look really close but they are
there. I brushed it on BTW.

One boat I painted the hull on, I rolled with those little white
rollers from home depot and the job came out really nice but I put
several coats and then wet sanded between coats - something I did not
do on any of the decks (I like a little traction anyway)

By the time I get what I need to do a 30 foot boat deck I am just about
$100 and that includes everything including a paint suit. It's the
best price I have found so I stick with them.



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