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purple_stars February 21st 06 09:09 AM

fishing/shrimping, etc, while cruising
 
i'm curious what gear and methods and such you use for fishing on your
cruising boat, and also for shrimping, crabbing, collecting clams, etc,
basically getting dinner on the table! i've been reading some about it
and am just curious what you all do on your own boats, how much success
you have, etc. do you routinely catch fish ? what kind ? what's your
secret ? do you ever catch squid ?

and i apologize that i keep starting so many discussion threads
recently, but i'm really curious. lol. and it's interesting to hear
what you are all doing on your boats.

here are a few articles i found online on this subject ...

http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...eid=matthe1012
http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...leid=suelar007
http://www.sailnet.com/sailing/96/tecjul96.htm
http://www.sailnet.com/collections/c...eid=sailne0842

all of those are sailnet articles, just worked out that way!


Keith February 21st 06 01:00 PM

fishing/shrimping, etc, while cruising
 
Get a copy of The Cruisers Handbook of Fishing by Scott Bannerot.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/007...Fencoding=UTF8
This is the best book I've ever seen on the subject, and will answer
all your questions.


[email protected] February 22nd 06 01:44 AM

fishing/shrimping, etc, while cruising
 
See current issue of Cruising World mag, which has article on fishing
while underway.

MW


Evan Gatehouse February 22nd 06 05:00 AM

fishing/shrimping, etc, while cruising
 
purple_stars wrote:
i'm curious what gear and methods and such you use for fishing on your
cruising boat, and also for shrimping, crabbing, collecting clams, etc,
basically getting dinner on the table! i've been reading some about it
and am just curious what you all do on your own boats, how much success
you have, etc. do you routinely catch fish ? what kind ? what's your
secret ? do you ever catch squid ?

and i apologize that i keep starting so many discussion threads
recently, but i'm really curious. lol. and it's interesting to hear
what you are all doing on your boats.

here are a few articles i found online on this subject ...

http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...eid=matthe1012
http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...leid=suelar007
http://www.sailnet.com/sailing/96/tecjul96.htm
http://www.sailnet.com/collections/c...eid=sailne0842

all of those are sailnet articles, just worked out that way!


We've used the following:

- spearfishing in Mexico and the Caribbean
- dragging a "meat line" - 200# test monofilament with a wire leader +
tuna feather when offshore
- crabbing in B.C.
- lots of donations from commercial fisherman
- trading/buying from local fisherman
- harvesting mussels/oysters in B.C.

- going for prawns in BC is a bit more work because they like waters
400' deep

We eat well :)

Evan Gatehouse


purple_stars February 22nd 06 08:07 AM

fishing/shrimping, etc, while cruising
 
Evan Gatehouse wrote:
[snip]
We've used the following:

- spearfishing in Mexico and the Caribbean
- dragging a "meat line" - 200# test monofilament with a wire leader +
tuna feather when offshore
- crabbing in B.C.
- lots of donations from commercial fisherman
- trading/buying from local fisherman
- harvesting mussels/oysters in B.C.

- going for prawns in BC is a bit more work because they like waters
400' deep

We eat well :)

Evan Gatehouse


thanks everyone for the book and magazine suggestions, i'll check into
it.

evan, how successful are you when you drag the line, i'm curious about
it. i mean, do you get a fish a week doing that, one a day, one an
hour, how does it work out most of the time ? can you dependably catch
something to eat ? what size/type of a fish do you typically catch on
a drag line like this ?

i'd like to try spearfishing. i have some material i read about it but
i've never done it. i have all the gear though, except for the actual
speargun. i am not a very good free diver because i haven't really
worked out the whole ear equalization thing yet, but i've gone to the
pool a few times with my mask and snorkle and things and tried to get
past it. i recently got a weight belt too and have been learning to
use it. i only recently learned to "pre-equalize" by pushing air into
my ears before i dive and that has helped me a lot. i don't know why i
have so much trouble with it, but i do, it's embarrassing really! i
have trouble getting past about 10 feet, but even 10 foot depths are
better than before. before i learned what little equalization i can do
now i couldn't get past about 6 feet without my eardrums feeling like
they were going to explode. anyway, my little equalization trouble
aside, once i get past that i'd really like to do some freediving and
spearfishing. i understand that some people even do this in the deep
blue water fishing for things like yellowfin tuna, giant monster sized
fishes, but even if i was able i don't know that i'd ever try that ..
it's the monster sized white sharks that go along with them that worry
me! but i'd definitely spearfish along a reef.

i've never harvested oysters/mussels before. it sounds like you just
wait until low tide, walk out to where they are, and pry them off the
rocks. is that how you do it, or do you have some other method for
collecting them ? are they hard to find ?


Gordon February 22nd 06 04:20 PM

fishing/shrimping, etc, while cruising
 

"Evan Gatehouse" wrote in message
...
- going for prawns in BC is a bit more work because they like waters
400' deep

We eat well :)

Evan Gatehouse


The coonstripe (dock) shrimp are smaller but tastier (IMHO) than the deep
water spot shrimp and can be had much shallower.
The problem I see is hauling the pots around around. They take up a lot of
room.
Dungeness crab, on the other hand, can be scooped up with a fish net in
shallow waters.
Gordon



Don W February 22nd 06 07:14 PM

fishing/shrimping, etc, while cruising
 


purple_stars wrote:

i'd like to try spearfishing. i have some material i read about it but
i've never done it. i have all the gear though, except for the actual
speargun. i am not a very good free diver because i haven't really
worked out the whole ear equalization thing yet, but i've gone to the
pool a few times with my mask and snorkle and things and tried to get
past it. i recently got a weight belt too and have been learning to
use it. i only recently learned to "pre-equalize" by pushing air into
my ears before i dive and that has helped me a lot. i don't know why i
have so much trouble with it, but i do, it's embarrassing really! i
have trouble getting past about 10 feet, but even 10 foot depths are
better than before. before i learned what little equalization i can do
now i couldn't get past about 6 feet without my eardrums feeling like
they were going to explode.


Be very careful about equalization. If your ears hurt do _not_ force
it by going lower... or higher ... until you can equalize the pressure.

Google "barotrauma" and learn about how you can damage your ears with
overpressure.

As I write this I can hear the constant squeal of tinnitus which never
goes away. It is due to an aborted scuba dive in about 12' of water--
and I was lucky. AT least I can still hear.

Don W.


Matt O'Toole February 22nd 06 09:34 PM

fishing/shrimping, etc, while cruising
 
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:09:35 -0800, purple_stars wrote:

i'm curious what gear and methods and such you use for fishing on your
cruising boat, and also for shrimping, crabbing, collecting clams, etc,
basically getting dinner on the table! i've been reading some about it
and am just curious what you all do on your own boats, how much success
you have, etc. do you routinely catch fish ? what kind ? what's your
secret ? do you ever catch squid ?

and i apologize that i keep starting so many discussion threads
recently, but i'm really curious. lol. and it's interesting to hear what
you are all doing on your boats.

here are a few articles i found online on this subject ...

http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...eid=matthe1012
http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...leid=suelar007
http://www.sailnet.com/sailing/96/tecjul96.htm
http://www.sailnet.com/collections/c...eid=sailne0842

all of those are sailnet articles, just worked out that way!


Of course this depends on where you are and what kind of sea life is
about. Where are you cruising?

Matt O.

Don W February 22nd 06 11:35 PM

fishing/shrimping, etc, while cruising
 


Dave wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:14:15 GMT, Don W
said:


Be very careful about equalization. If your ears hurt do _not_ force
it by going lower... or higher ... until you can equalize the pressure.



Not quite right as to the ascending part. Because of the way your Eustachian
tube is laid out in relation to the ears and throat it's next to impossible
to damage the ear drums as a result of ascending. Picture what happens when
you release the stem of a filled balloon. Now consider the Eustachian tube's
exit to the throat like the stem of the balloon.


Dave,

I can't argue with what you write about the Eustachian tube, because
I just don't know. I'm not an ear specialist, nor do I play one on
TV. I am, however, trained as a technical diver and remember being
trained (and experiencing) that it is necessary to equalize both
descending and ascending. If one or both ears is blocked, and the
pressure difference is enough, a barotrauma or possibly a ruptured
eardrum is the result.

Also, think about it. If what you said is true then people would
not need to equalize during ascent on an airplane. As a pilot I
can tell you that people do very much need to equalize during ascent
in an unpressurized airplane and that if a person does not know how
to equalize a very painful experience is the result.

?????

Don W.




Evan Gatehouse February 23rd 06 05:15 AM

fishing/shrimping, etc, while cruising
 

evan, how successful are you when you drag the line, i'm curious about
it. i mean, do you get a fish a week doing that, one a day, one an
hour, how does it work out most of the time ? can you dependably catch
something to eat ? what size/type of a fish do you typically catch on
a drag line like this ?


I'd say 1-2 fish a week is pretty typical. Varies tremendously with
the area we were in. Fish size is proportional to lure size. If you
drag a 12" lure, you're going for something too big! Something about
4" long worked well, catching say 10 lb fish like Dorado, tuna, etc.

i'd like to try spearfishing. i have some material i read about it but
i've never done it. i have all the gear though, except for the actual
speargun. i am not a very good free diver because i haven't really
worked out the whole ear equalization thing yet, but i've gone to the
pool a few times with my mask and snorkle and things and tried to get
past it.


(a) lots of practice during cruising makes perfect. I got so that I
could go down to 30' and just slowly cruise around for about a minute.
45' was the most I went down. Good long fins help enormously. THey
rocket you downward.

(b) equalize lots as you decend. If you wait too long, it gets
hard/impossible. Equalize more in the first 15' or so. (like 2-3 times)

aside, once i get past that i'd really like to do some freediving and
spearfishing. i understand that some people even do this in the deep
blue water fishing for things like yellowfin tuna, giant monster sized
fishes, but even if i was able i don't know that i'd ever try that ..


Yeah, I don't get that. I spearfish for food so a typical little 2-3
lb reef fish for supper is perfect for me.

i've never harvested oysters/mussels before. it sounds like you just
wait until low tide, walk out to where they are, and pry them off the
rocks. is that how you do it, or do you have some other method for
collecting them ? are they hard to find ?


Yes, in short. Mussels like vertical pilings too but I wouldn't pick
them in a harbour. These are cold water creatures so you won't find
them in the tropics.

Evan Gatehouse




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