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What gives with hose fittings?
I’d been warned that the gray hose fittings from hardware stores are
ridiculously oversize but I didn’t realize that the nylon ones from the marine store are also until after a lot of sweating and cussing. Even after working the hose onto a heated (gently) pipe of the same diameter to stretch it, getting the hose on the nylon nipples was at the limit of feasibility. Does anyone know the genesis or rational for this crazy situation? Why can’t the nation the put a man on the moon produce hose fittings that fit hose? -- Roger Long |
What gives with hose fittings?
Roger,
After I wrestled (with a lot of cussing, and the application of various lubricants for the hose and me) with sanitation hose for years, a friend shared his recipe for this. I now heat a pot of water to a boil, and dip the end of the hose in the water, leaving it for just a few seconds. The hose softens enough to slide all the way on and once it cools, is there to stay and I've never experience any degradation to the hose caused by this procedure. You might want to experiment with different in water wait times. MMC "Roger Long" wrote in message ... I'd been warned that the gray hose fittings from hardware stores are ridiculously oversize but I didn't realize that the nylon ones from the marine store are also until after a lot of sweating and cussing. Even after working the hose onto a heated (gently) pipe of the same diameter to stretch it, getting the hose on the nylon nipples was at the limit of feasibility. Does anyone know the genesis or rational for this crazy situation? Why can't the nation the put a man on the moon produce hose fittings that fit hose? -- Roger Long |
What gives with hose fittings?
I did that and followed up with heat from a hair dryer as I continued
to struggle with it. The diameter of the barbs on the fittings is 1 1/16" and the I.D. of the hose us a hair under 1". Lots of lube as well. I did learn one useful thing while sweating the hose on and off of the heated steel pipe nipple to stretch it. If you twist the hose one way, it gets smaller and tighter. Twist it the other way and it gets larger. I'm using Shields VAC XHD Series 148 for now. Odor isn't as much of a problem in our cold climate and I flush the system often. If it goes bad, I'll replace it with Aussiegold down the road. BTW the Marlon fittings fit this hose perfectly but the right ones weren't in stock. If I had any idea what a struggle this would be, I would have waited until I could order Marlon for everything. -- Roger Long "MMC" wrote in message ... Roger, After I wrestled (with a lot of cussing, and the application of various lubricants for the hose and me) with sanitation hose for years, a friend shared his recipe for this. I now heat a pot of water to a boil, and dip the end of the hose in the water, leaving it for just a few seconds. The hose softens enough to slide all the way on and once it cools, is there to stay and I've never experience any degradation to the hose caused by this procedure. You might want to experiment with different in water wait times. MMC "Roger Long" wrote in message ... I'd been warned that the gray hose fittings from hardware stores are ridiculously oversize but I didn't realize that the nylon ones from the marine store are also until after a lot of sweating and cussing. Even after working the hose onto a heated (gently) pipe of the same diameter to stretch it, getting the hose on the nylon nipples was at the limit of feasibility. Does anyone know the genesis or rational for this crazy situation? Why can't the nation the put a man on the moon produce hose fittings that fit hose? -- Roger Long |
What gives with hose fittings?
K-Y has a lot of interesting uses. :-) I keep a couple of tubes around for
fitting hose. Always gets odd looks from the visitors. :-) -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com "Roger Long" wrote in message ... I'd been warned that the gray hose fittings from hardware stores are ridiculously oversize but I didn't realize that the nylon ones from the marine store are also until after a lot of sweating and cussing. Even after working the hose onto a heated (gently) pipe of the same diameter to stretch it, getting the hose on the nylon nipples was at the limit of feasibility. Does anyone know the genesis or rational for this crazy situation? Why can't the nation the put a man on the moon produce hose fittings that fit hose? -- Roger Long |
What gives with hose fittings?
"MMC" wrote in news:Lr8Gf.3455$_c.2206
@tornado.tampabay.rr.com: You might want to experiment with different in water wait times. MMC A long thread will now ensue with charts and graphs on user webpages after the extensive testing phase, in realtime. Then, of course, a branch will take off whether alcohol or propane stoves are best for this boiling, ending in a big flamewar with threats and cursing, causing local doctors to smile as BPs go through the roof. Carry on..... |
What gives with hose fittings?
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in news:BN9Gf.23304$Dh.7896
@dukeread04: I keep a couple of tubes around for fitting hose. Oh, sure.....(c; We believe ya, Glenn.... |
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What gives with hose fittings?
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:12:24 -0500, Larry wrote:
a branch will take off whether alcohol or propane stoves are best for this boiling Nonsense. Everyone knows that electric stoves boil better. All kidding aside I've always had good luck with the boiling water trick. Start with a few seconds and work your way up. Of course when it's time to remove the hose from the fitting, don't even bother to waste your time. This is what utility knives are made for. |
What gives with hose fittings?
Roger Long wrote:
I’d been warned that the gray hose fittings from hardware stores are ridiculously oversize but I didn’t realize that the nylon ones from the marine store are also until after a lot of sweating and cussing. Even after working the hose onto a heated (gently) pipe of the same diameter to stretch it, getting the hose on the nylon nipples was at the limit of feasibility. Does anyone know the genesis or rational for this crazy situation? Why can’t the nation the put a man on the moon produce hose fittings that fit hose? Crazy isn't it? For smaller PVC water hoses I use 5/8" hose and 1/2" fittings. Fit very well. Evan Gatehouse |
What gives with hose fittings?
101 sanitation hose is the absolute worst to get on a barb. I finally found
Shields smooth sanitation hose fittings and they are almost easy. No heat or grease needed. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com "Roger Long" wrote in message ... I'd been warned that the gray hose fittings from hardware stores are ridiculously oversize but I didn't realize that the nylon ones from the marine store are also until after a lot of sweating and cussing. Even after working the hose onto a heated (gently) pipe of the same diameter to stretch it, getting the hose on the nylon nipples was at the limit of feasibility. Does anyone know the genesis or rational for this crazy situation? Why can't the nation the put a man on the moon produce hose fittings that fit hose? -- Roger Long |
What gives with hose fittings?
Wayne.B wrote in
: Start with a few seconds and work your way up. Sounds extremely painful to me....(c; |
What gives with hose fittings?
On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 18:10:17 -0500, "Glenn Ashmore"
wrote: K-Y has a lot of interesting uses. :-) I keep a couple of tubes around for fitting hose. Always gets odd looks from the visitors. :-) Well, it's alleged to be a lonely life at sea. R. |
What gives with hose fittings?
Shields smooth is what I was using. The bottom line is to use only
Marlon fittings which slip in like machined metal parts. Gray PVC and nylon are both a disaster. I did everything that was recommended here, boiling water, heat gun, lube, prestretching, and could barely get the hose on the nylon when the fitting were clamped in a vice and I could lean my whole body into it. I'm replacing the barbs for the final in-place connections with Marlon. I couldn't get Marlon for the Tee's and reducers I needed. This hassle has been my punishment for trying to maintain a consistent look to fittings that are hidden from view and wanting to get this project wrapped up before snow buries the boat again. -- Roger Long "Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message news:mkeGf.23342$Dh.21061@dukeread04... 101 sanitation hose is the absolute worst to get on a barb. I finally found Shields smooth sanitation hose fittings and they are almost easy. No heat or grease needed. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com "Roger Long" wrote in message ... I'd been warned that the gray hose fittings from hardware stores are ridiculously oversize but I didn't realize that the nylon ones from the marine store are also until after a lot of sweating and cussing. Even after working the hose onto a heated (gently) pipe of the same diameter to stretch it, getting the hose on the nylon nipples was at the limit of feasibility. Does anyone know the genesis or rational for this crazy situation? Why can't the nation the put a man on the moon produce hose fittings that fit hose? -- Roger Long |
What gives with hose fittings?
Larry wrote:
I keep a couple of tubes around for fitting hose. Oh, sure.....(c; We believe ya, Glenn.... Larry, grow up. K-Y Surgical jelly happens to be the best hose/fitting lubricant on the planet...MUCH more slippery than dishwashing liquid--which is the only other alternative, and also water soluble...so it dries out instead leaving you with permanently greasy fitting a hose can work off of. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/books...ku=90&cat=1304 |
What gives with hose fittings?
Wayne.B wrote:
All kidding aside I've always had good luck with the boiling water trick. Start with a few seconds and work your way up. I've always preferred a blow dryer to boiling water. No danger of scalding yourself if you spill it, and a blow dryer doesn't cool off before it can soften a really stiff hose. Of course when it's time to remove the hose from the fitting, don't even bother to waste your time. This is what utility knives are made for. And blow dryers. Heat will not only soften the hose, but also any sealant used by a misguided PO or builder...much easier than a knife. I kept a cheap 1000w foldup travel model in my toolbox just for this purpose. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/books...ku=90&cat=1304 |
What gives with hose fittings?
Evan Gatehouse wrote:
Does anyone know the genesis or rational for this crazy situation? Why can’t the nation the put a man on the moon produce hose fittings that fit hose? Crazy isn't it? For smaller PVC water hoses I use 5/8" hose and 1/2" fittings. Fit very well. The only problems are with 1.5" fittings. For some arcane reason, plumbing indstry standards call for nominal 1.5 thread x 1.5 barb is ACTUAL 1.5" OD on the threaded end, 1.5" ID on the barbed end. But ONLY for 1.5"...all other sizes are OD measurements on both ends. I've never beend able to find out why. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/books...ku=90&cat=1304 |
What gives with hose fittings?
Astroglide is even slipperier. "second only to nature" and it stays slippy
longer does not dry as fast. - Allen "Peggie Hall" wrote in message om... Larry wrote: I keep a couple of tubes around for fitting hose. Oh, sure.....(c; We believe ya, Glenn.... Larry, grow up. K-Y Surgical jelly happens to be the best hose/fitting lubricant on the planet...MUCH more slippery than dishwashing liquid--which is the only other alternative, and also water soluble...so it dries out instead leaving you with permanently greasy fitting a hose can work off of. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://shop.sailboatowners.com/books...ku=90&cat=1304 |
What gives with hose fittings?
Peggie Hall wrote in news:rvrGf.10213$2O6.3462
@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com: Larry, grow up. What? NEVAH! |
What gives with hose fittings?
"bushman" wrote in news:jQsGf.20011$g47.2305
@tornado.tampabay.rr.com: "second only to nature" Hey! I got an idea.....No, wait, she'd never go for it... |
What gives with hose fittings?
I have filed/sanded the barbs on fittings like this so that the grip is not
so aggressive. I do like to be able to remove the hose if necessary w/o cutting. "Roger Long" wrote in message ... I'd been warned that the gray hose fittings from hardware stores are ridiculously oversize but I didn't realize that the nylon ones from the marine store are also until after a lot of sweating and cussing. Even after working the hose onto a heated (gently) pipe of the same diameter to stretch it, getting the hose on the nylon nipples was at the limit of feasibility. Does anyone know the genesis or rational for this crazy situation? Why can't the nation the put a man on the moon produce hose fittings that fit hose? -- Roger Long |
What gives with hose fittings?
In article BN9Gf.23304$Dh.7896@dukeread04,
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote: K-Y has a lot of interesting uses. :-) I keep a couple of tubes around for fitting hose. Always gets odd looks from the visitors. :-) Damn the visitors. K-Y has too many good uses to keep it off the boat. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
What gives with hose fittings?
Jere Lull wrote in news:jerelull-9E5D50.22052711022006
@news.verizon.net: Damn the visitors. K-Y has too many good uses to keep it off the boat. Yeah, but Jere, you don't have to leave it on the V-berth, do you?....(c; |
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