DSC GPS input
 

Now that all new VHF radios have the GPS input, it seems that there
should be a little GPS box the just puts out the NMEA signal with no
other functions. You could then use the output from your main GPS for
something else and have the radio’s readout for a position back up.

Come to think of it, do those little GPS units sold to plug into
laptop computers for street maps speak NMEA?

I have an old aviation Garmin GPS 90 that has the same plug as my
GPSMAP 76. It outputs:

NMEA 0180 and 0182

0183 Version 1.5

Approved sentences:

GPBWC, GPGLL, GPRMB, GPRMC, GPXTE, GPVTE, GPWPL

NMEA 0183 Version 2.0

Approved sentences:

GPGGA, GPGLL, GPGSA, GPGSV, GPRMB, GPRMC, GPRTE, GPWPL

Can anyone tell me if this would work with the DSC radio? Spending its
retirement inputting position to the VHF might be a good use for this
box. I could then take my 76 back to the helm without losing the DSC
connection. Besides, if I want to know the location of the nearest
airport, I’ll be all set:)

--

Roger Long

DSC GPS input
 

In article ,
"Roger Long" wrote:

Now that all new VHF radios have the GPS input, it seems that there
should be a little GPS box the just puts out the NMEA signal with no
other functions. You could then use the output from your main GPS for
something else and have the radio’s readout for a position back up.

Come to think of it, do those little GPS units sold to plug into
laptop computers for street maps speak NMEA?

I have an old aviation Garmin GPS 90 that has the same plug as my
GPSMAP 76. It outputs:

NMEA 0180 and 0182

0183 Version 1.5

Approved sentences:

GPBWC, GPGLL, GPRMB, GPRMC, GPXTE, GPVTE, GPWPL

NMEA 0183 Version 2.0

Approved sentences:

GPGGA, GPGLL, GPGSA, GPGSV, GPRMB, GPRMC, GPRTE, GPWPL

Can anyone tell me if this would work with the DSC radio? Spending its
retirement inputting position to the VHF might be a good use for this
box. I could then take my 76 back to the helm without losing the DSC
connection. Besides, if I want to know the location of the nearest
airport, I’ll be all set:)

The GPRMB, GPRMC, and GPGLL all have current Lat-Long information
imbedded in them and should be acceptable for any DSC Input.
You would want to use the Version 1.5 if you also used it to feed
your Autopilot as it includes the GPXTE sentance that the autopilot
uses.

Me

DSC GPS input
 

I just made a quick stop at West Marine during my son's guitar lesson
and it appears I was led astray the first time I looked at the new
radios. None of them (according to the story this time) show the Lat
Long on their display so a GPS receiver without a display wouldn't be
a back up except for the distress signal.

The salesman also told me that the USCG is not currently receiving
position information on the channel 70 calls, at least in the
Northeast. Does anyone know the status of the Coast Guard system? I
don't see much point in buying one of these until they are with the
program.

--

Roger Long



"Roger Long" wrote in message
.. .
Now that all new VHF radios have the GPS input, it seems that there
should be a little GPS box the just puts out the NMEA signal with no
other functions. You could then use the output from your main GPS
for something else and have the radio's readout for a position back
up.

Come to think of it, do those little GPS units sold to plug into
laptop computers for street maps speak NMEA?

I have an old aviation Garmin GPS 90 that has the same plug as my
GPSMAP 76. It outputs:

NMEA 0180 and 0182

0183 Version 1.5

Approved sentences:

GPBWC, GPGLL, GPRMB, GPRMC, GPXTE, GPVTE, GPWPL

NMEA 0183 Version 2.0

Approved sentences:

GPGGA, GPGLL, GPGSA, GPGSV, GPRMB, GPRMC, GPRTE, GPWPL

Can anyone tell me if this would work with the DSC radio? Spending
its retirement inputting position to the VHF might be a good use for
this box. I could then take my 76 back to the helm without losing
the DSC connection. Besides, if I want to know the location of the
nearest airport, I'll be all set:)

--

Roger Long

DSC GPS input
 

"Roger Long" wrote in news:V8SCf.147297$XC4.73371
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

I just made a quick stop at West Marine during my son's guitar lesson
and it appears I was led astray the first time I looked at the new
radios. None of them (according to the story this time) show the Lat
Long on their display so a GPS receiver without a display wouldn't be
a back up except for the distress signal.



Wrong radios. The Icom M602 VHF and M802 HF both display lat/long
continuously. I believe the cheaper M502 does, also.

I wouldn't suspect the West Marine/Uniden cheap crap to display anything
but the channel you're on.

DSC GPS input
 

Roger Long wrote:
I just made a quick stop at West Marine during my son's guitar lesson
and it appears I was led astray the first time I looked at the new
radios. None of them (according to the story this time) show the Lat
Long on their display so a GPS receiver without a display wouldn't be
a back up except for the distress signal.

The salesman also told me that the USCG is not currently receiving
position information on the channel 70 calls, at least in the
Northeast. Does anyone know the status of the Coast Guard system? I
don't see much point in buying one of these until they are with the
program.

I'm not sure if anyone here gets the position info from the Ch 70 stuff
but my Icom radio does have the position on the screen. My GPS has a
junction box that allows me to send info to several things at one. My
in particular feeds VHF, HF radios and a laptop charting system.

Gaz

DSC GPS input
 

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:08:37 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

Now that all new VHF radios have the GPS input, it seems that there
should be a little GPS box the just puts out the NMEA signal with no
other functions. You could then use the output from your main GPS for
something else and have the radio’s readout for a position back up.


Yes, there are "black box" GPS receiver/antenna units, but they cost
as much as a low-end handheld GPS.

A single NMEA output should be able to feed at least four listeners.
I have one GPS feeding an autopilot, computer, DSC radio and radar
simultaneously, and am about to add a Bluetooth module to the mix, to
get the NMEA data into my Dell PDA, for use at the upper helm.

The current NMEA wiring diagram for my boat is on my GPS/NMEA site...


--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

DSC GPS input
 

Peter Bennett wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:08:37 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:


Now that all new VHF radios have the GPS input, it seems that there
should be a little GPS box the just puts out the NMEA signal with no
other functions. You could then use the output from your main GPS for
something else and have the radio’s readout for a position back up.



Yes, there are "black box" GPS receiver/antenna units, but they cost
as much as a low-end handheld GPS.

A single NMEA output should be able to feed at least four listeners.
I have one GPS feeding an autopilot, computer, DSC radio and radar
simultaneously, and am about to add a Bluetooth module to the mix, to
get the NMEA data into my Dell PDA, for use at the upper helm.

The current NMEA wiring diagram for my boat is on my GPS/NMEA site...


I have a black box GPS that plugs into a laptop and uses the laptop as
the power source. Something like that for the VHF might be neat. If
you just plug in a handheld you'd be buying batteries regularily.

DSC GPS input
 

"Roger Long" wrote...
I just made a quick stop at West Marine during my son's guitar lesson and
it appears I was led astray the first time I looked at the new radios.
None of them (according to the story this time) show the Lat Long on their
display so a GPS receiver without a display wouldn't be a back up except
for the distress signal.

The salesman also told me that the USCG is not currently receiving
position information on the channel 70 calls, at least in the Northeast.
Does anyone know the status of the Coast Guard system?

Here are some links:

*"...The U.S. Coast Guard will not be equipped to respond to Digital
Selective Calling (DSC) distress calls on Channel 70 until 2006..."



http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-o/g-opr/emergencies.htm

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/gmdss/dsc.htm

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/gmdss/dscresp.pdf

http://www.seatow.com/boatingsafety/...SCbrochure.pdf

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/enav/ais/default.htm

DSC GPS input
 

In article ,
"Roger Long" wrote:

I just made a quick stop at West Marine during my son's guitar lesson
and it appears I was led astray the first time I looked at the new
radios. None of them (according to the story this time) show the Lat
Long on their display so a GPS receiver without a display wouldn't be
a back up except for the distress signal.

The salesman also told me that the USCG is not currently receiving
position information on the channel 70 calls, at least in the
Northeast. Does anyone know the status of the Coast Guard system? I
don't see much point in buying one of these until they are with the
program.

--

Roger Long


The USCG is way behind the rest of the world in DSC Technology, and
the US deployment of a full Shoreside DSC is years behind scheduale
due to Congress's lack of funding, for IMO Treaty Compliance. USCG
has a few "Test sites" on the East Coast and Gulf Coast, but total
deplyment is still years away, especially up here in District 17.
(Alaska)


Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @

DSC GPS input
 

Roger Long wrote:
I just made a quick stop at West Marine during my son's guitar lesson
and it appears I was led astray the first time I looked at the new
radios. None of them (according to the story this time) show the Lat
Long on their display so a GPS receiver without a display wouldn't be
a back up except for the distress signal.

The salesman also told me that the USCG is not currently receiving
position information on the channel 70 calls, at least in the
Northeast. Does anyone know the status of the Coast Guard system? I
don't see much point in buying one of these until they are with the
program.

Roger,
Whoever you talked to at WM was not very well informed on the products
he was selling. All the radio's I looked at had Lat-Long display
including the Icom and the WM 500 which is a WM brand marked Icom.
krj

DSC GPS input
 

"krj" wrote
Whoever you talked to at WM was not very well informed on the
products he was selling.

You think WM would hire someone like that? :)

Have you ever noticed that, when a salesperson latches onto you at the
door, escorts you to what you say you are interested in, and then
won't leave you alone, they usually don't know squat?

I usually slink in, say I know what I'm looking for, loop around the
back, and then go study the stuff myself. Maybe this behavior has led
them to think I'm shoplifting:)

--

Roger Long

DSC GPS input
 

On 29 Jan 2006 14:46:02 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:21:25 GMT, Gary said:

My GPS has a
junction box that allows me to send info to several things at one.

Do you know if that's sold as a separate item? It would save my having to
build one.

Just use any handy terminal strip - there's no magic or electronics
needed, as any NMEA talker should be able to drive four or more
listeners.

Have a look on my GPS/NMEA for my (somewhat complex) system...


--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

DSC GPS input
 

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:08:37 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

Come to think of it, do those little GPS units sold to plug into
laptop computers for street maps speak NMEA?

Yes they do, I've been using one for years. The Delorme's are decent
little units with WAAS capability. At one time you could buy them
with a serial port adapter cable but I believe the new ones are USB
only.

DSC GPS input
 

Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:08:37 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

Come to think of it, do those little GPS units sold to plug into
laptop computers for street maps speak NMEA?

Yes they do, I've been using one for years. The Delorme's are decent
little units with WAAS capability. At one time you could buy them
with a serial port adapter cable but I believe the new ones are USB
only.

I was told by the folks at Cap'n that those units will not work with
the computer charts. I've got one for land use with maps, but have
not tried to use it with the nav charts.


grandma Rosalie

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Rosalie B. wrote in
:

I was told by the folks at Cap'n that those units will not work with
the computer charts. I've got one for land use with maps, but have
not tried to use it with the nav charts.


Hmmm....I wonder if my Virtual Serial Port software addresses the USB ports
as well as the Ethernet port. I'll have to do a little research. The
Virtual Serial Port software does very good a providing the Cap'n with COM
port data from the wireless Ethernet or wired Ethernet, now. Cap'n doesn't
know any better. It's getting data from COM2 as far as it's concerned...
(c;

If the VSP can be told to connect to a USB port and provide Cap'n with fake
serial data, too, wouldn't that be just peachy?....(c;

DSC GPS input
 

On 2006-02-18 10:28:06 -0500, Rosalie B. said:

Yes they do, I've been using one for years. The Delorme's are decent
little units with WAAS capability. At one time you could buy them
with a serial port adapter cable but I believe the new ones are USB
only.

A lot of the DeLorme units aren't designed to work with anything but
their own software and aren't true standalone GPS units. Another
reason to avoid them is that none AFAIK of their units are IPX7 water
resistant.

The low-end Garmin is probably a better bet.

Also on the issue of NMEA black boxes...they're generally called NMEA
multiplexers.. A good unit can be seen at:
http://www.shipmodul.com/en/miniplex-42bt.html

They make ones with RS-232, USB or Bluetooth capabilities. Also, some
of their units will translate from Raymarine Seatalk to NMEA.

Not really needed if you only have a few (usually up to 4—VHF, HF,
AutoPilot, PC) NMEA devices which need the NMEA output from your
GPS...the Bluetooth does make connecting your computer much simpler.

DSC GPS input
 

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 05:16:16 GMT, in message
2006032200161616807-dog@nomailcom
dog wrote:

On 2006-02-18 10:28:06 -0500, Rosalie B. said:

Yes they do, I've been using one for years. The Delorme's are decent
little units with WAAS capability. At one time you could buy them
with a serial port adapter cable but I believe the new ones are USB
only.

A lot of the DeLorme units aren't designed to work with anything but
their own software and aren't true standalone GPS units.

My Delorme Earthlink USB works fine with the Fugawi charting software
on my notebooks.

Ryk
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