OK, this is probably going to bring down the wrath of some self appointed
Usenet police but I have been around r.b.c long enough to ask.

After receiving a number of requests I am thinking about expanding my line
to include rode along with my anchors. They will be New England Premium 3
strand and ACCO high test chain. I can move a few of drums of chain fairly
easily. My problem is I have to buy almost a mile of rope which makes me a
bit nervous.

Any of you guys interested in a few hundred feet of 5/8 or 3/4 3 strand at a
bit under full spool prices?

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:41:44 -0500, "Glenn Ashmore"
wrote:

Any of you guys interested in a few hundred feet of 5/8 or 3/4 3 strand at a
bit under full spool prices?

==================================

Not me at the moment but I am interested in finding a high quality,
galvanized, double jaw swivel capable of connecting my Spade S200 to
3/8 HT chain without sacrificing any strength (SWL 5500 lbs).

"Wayne.B" wrote

Not me at the moment but I am interested in finding a high quality,
galvanized, double jaw swivel capable of connecting my Spade S200 to
3/8 HT chain without sacrificing any strength (SWL 5500 lbs).

You and me both. I did get a lead yesterday from the guy at NE Rope and I
am going to track it down today. I'll let you know what I find out.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Do you really think a swivel is necessary ? Unless you are anchored for a
long time in a tidal current I wonder if it helps or hurts.

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:TEVif.40602$sg5.36630@dukeread12...

"Wayne.B" wrote

Not me at the moment but I am interested in finding a high quality,
galvanized, double jaw swivel capable of connecting my Spade S200 to
3/8 HT chain without sacrificing any strength (SWL 5500 lbs).

You and me both. I did get a lead yesterday from the guy at NE Rope and I
am going to track it down today. I'll let you know what I find out.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:05:41 -0500, "Garland Gray II"
wrote:

Do you really think a swivel is necessary ? Unless you are anchored for a
long time in a tidal current I wonder if it helps or hurts.

==============================================

I have found it necessary with an all chain rode and a windlass. This
is my second boat with that combination and have ended up adding a
swivel both times to avoid chain hockling and to ensure that the
anchor comes up straight over the pulpit roller and in the right
orientation.

What worries me is that they give you pin diameters but never seem to come
out with the actual breaking strength of the swivel. I am going to have to
buy some samples and have a friend with a testing lab pull them for me
before I will sell them. A swivel for 3/8" chain should make it to at least
15,000 pounds and I will bet none that I have found will do it.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:05:41 -0500, "Garland Gray II"
wrote:

Do you really think a swivel is necessary ? Unless you are anchored for a
long time in a tidal current I wonder if it helps or hurts.

==============================================

I have found it necessary with an all chain rode and a windlass. This
is my second boat with that combination and have ended up adding a
swivel both times to avoid chain hockling and to ensure that the
anchor comes up straight over the pulpit roller and in the right
orientation.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:05:41 -0500, "Garland Gray II"
wrote:

Do you really think a swivel is necessary ? Unless you are anchored for a
long time in a tidal current I wonder if it helps or hurts.

==============================================

I have found it necessary with an all chain rode and a windlass. This
is my second boat with that combination and have ended up adding a
swivel both times to avoid chain hockling and to ensure that the
anchor comes up straight over the pulpit roller and in the right
orientation.


I just don't get it - not that I'm disputing it, as many seem to have the
same problem...

From my limited perspective, it seems you'd have to be in a whirlpool, or on
the hook for months with a consistent direction of turn, to put any notable
number of turns on a chain.

Then, unless you've got a hundred feet out in a 10' anchorage, as you
brought up the anchor, just letting it hang a bit once it comes off the
bottom should unwind any turns you've accumulated.

If you've got substantial chain on the bottom, a swivel won't do you any
good until you tighten up, anyway, CF raising and waiting above.

What am I missing?

L8R

Skip, not experienced with that problem despite all-chain rodes

--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
http://tinyurl.com/384p2 The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain

That is exactly what I've got, yet I've had no problem w/ twisting. The
concensus of others in another group is those who have a problem w/
twisting, also have a swivel.
But I won't argue w/ you : if you have a problem w/ twisting, you must have
a problem.
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:05:41 -0500, "Garland Gray II"
wrote:

Do you really think a swivel is necessary ? Unless you are anchored for a
long time in a tidal current I wonder if it helps or hurts.

==============================================

I have found it necessary with an all chain rode and a windlass. This
is my second boat with that combination and have ended up adding a
swivel both times to avoid chain hockling and to ensure that the
anchor comes up straight over the pulpit roller and in the right
orientation.

Maybe some 5/16 hi test chain

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:usNif.39192$sg5.17515@dukeread12...
OK, this is probably going to bring down the wrath of some self appointed
Usenet police but I have been around r.b.c long enough to ask.

After receiving a number of requests I am thinking about expanding my line
to include rode along with my anchors. They will be New England Premium 3
strand and ACCO high test chain. I can move a few of drums of chain
fairly easily. My problem is I have to buy almost a mile of rope which
makes me a bit nervous.

Any of you guys interested in a few hundred feet of 5/8 or 3/4 3 strand at
a bit under full spool prices?

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com