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We cruised with our cat which at the time was about 10 weeks
old.


My friends Dan and Kay have a striped orange tomcat that's mean as sin.
He bites, HARD. When they had the Hatteras 56, he used to sit atop the
main helm right over the opening where the spiral companionway came up
from the galley and staterooms below. When your head ascended the
stairs, he'd try to jump on top of you and bite your head!

He doesn't mess with Dan. I don't wanna know why not....(c;

I took his overhead compartment over the main helm apart and completely
rewired the last owner's wad of balled-up cables, installed a new breaker
panel in the port side of it to safely service all the radios, lights,
sonar, radar, etc. that were all strapped with regular lamp cord to a 50A
breaker in the panel. We had to confine that damned cat to the forward
head while I was working up there because he wedged himself into the
partially dropped down panel twice and attacked me once, leaving my arm
bleeding at the claw marks. By that time, I was for leaving him inside
the panel and just closing it back up with him inside. Kay didn't think
that would be a good idea. He's still vicious at their house in Mt
Pleasant. If he heads in your direction sitting on a couch...watch out!

He also attacked me when I was in the A/C-Generator house under the
galley deck on my knees because its low down there in the bilge. I had
the drawings for the 20KW diesel Onan genset laid out tracing the wiring
someone had screwed around with to the panel at the main helm and he
slipped, quietly around the end of the genset and just clawed hell out of
my left calf, causing me to bang my head on the overhead....damned cat.

You were safe in the engine rooms with the 8V92TAs running. I don't
think he liked the NOISE of the 2-stroke beasts.

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Larry wrote:
"Leanne" wrote in :


We cruised with our cat which at the time was about 10 weeks
old.



My friends Dan and Kay have a striped orange tomcat that's mean as sin.
He bites, HARD. When they had the Hatteras 56, he used to sit atop the
main helm right over the opening where the spiral companionway came up
from the galley and staterooms below. When your head ascended the
stairs, he'd try to jump on top of you and bite your head!

He doesn't mess with Dan. I don't wanna know why not....(c;

I took his overhead compartment over the main helm apart and completely
rewired the last owner's wad of balled-up cables, installed a new breaker
panel in the port side of it to safely service all the radios, lights,
sonar, radar, etc. that were all strapped with regular lamp cord to a 50A
breaker in the panel. We had to confine that damned cat to the forward
head while I was working up there because he wedged himself into the
partially dropped down panel twice and attacked me once, leaving my arm
bleeding at the claw marks. By that time, I was for leaving him inside
the panel and just closing it back up with him inside. Kay didn't think
that would be a good idea. He's still vicious at their house in Mt
Pleasant. If he heads in your direction sitting on a couch...watch out!

He also attacked me when I was in the A/C-Generator house under the
galley deck on my knees because its low down there in the bilge. I had
the drawings for the 20KW diesel Onan genset laid out tracing the wiring
someone had screwed around with to the panel at the main helm and he
slipped, quietly around the end of the genset and just clawed hell out of
my left calf, causing me to bang my head on the overhead....damned cat.

You were safe in the engine rooms with the 8V92TAs running. I don't
think he liked the NOISE of the 2-stroke beasts.



A spray bottle filled with cool water should mellow that wildcat down.
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Don White wrote:
A spray bottle filled with cool water should mellow that wildcat down.


Better yet, a dilute of ammonia and water...or straight vinegar.

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A spray bottle filled with cool water should mellow that wildcat down.


Naw....I'm aboard someone else's boat, he's buying beer and a few
thousand gallons of diesel and taking me on a trip. I can put up with
Charlie's cat attacks....(c;

I miss that boat. There was plenty of electrical and mechanical things
to make weekends a lot of fun. I caused some distress, once in a while,
like when I came up from the bilge declaring we needed THREE banks of
expensive 8V odd batteries for the 32V train electrics "down here". I'd
hate to think I was partially why they sold her. Hell, I had just about
all the systems running smoothly by then....twin water pumps, twin diesel
gensets, 5 water-cooled air conditioners, helm and flybridge electronics
and electrical systems, TV cable system, even the Cuisinart food
processor built into the galley counter top...all worked. Fixed the
electronic controls to the Naiad hydraulic roll control system, too.
That was great to have. But, God what a constant expense to keep it all
running, even with the free labor....

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Larry wrote:

Don White wrote in
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A spray bottle filled with cool water should mellow that wildcat down.



Naw....I'm aboard someone else's boat, he's buying beer and a few
thousand gallons of diesel and taking me on a trip. I can put up with
Charlie's cat attacks....(c;

I miss that boat. There was plenty of electrical and mechanical things
to make weekends a lot of fun. I caused some distress, once in a while,
like when I came up from the bilge declaring we needed THREE banks of
expensive 8V odd batteries for the 32V train electrics "down here". I'd
hate to think I was partially why they sold her. Hell, I had just about
all the systems running smoothly by then....twin water pumps, twin diesel
gensets, 5 water-cooled air conditioners, helm and flybridge electronics
and electrical systems, TV cable system, even the Cuisinart food
processor built into the galley counter top...all worked. Fixed the
electronic controls to the Naiad hydraulic roll control system, too.
That was great to have. But, God what a constant expense to keep it all
running, even with the free labor....


Tell us about the water cooled air conditioners, please!

Terry K



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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:30:41 -0400, Terry Spragg
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Tell us about the water cooled air conditioners, please!


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What do you want to know? They are fairly common on power boats where
you've got enough power to run things like that. My trawler has 4
water cooled air conditioners with reverse cycle heating, 2 water
cooled refrigeration units, and a water cooled freezer. Fortunately I
have a neighbor here in FL that knows how to keep it all running. :-)
The fridges and freezer have individual circulating pumps for their
condensing units (small gas/water heat exchanger coils), and the A/Cs
are all driven from one large circulating pump similar to what you
would use for a swimming pool filtration system.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:30:41 -0400, Terry Spragg
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Tell us about the water cooled air conditioners, please!



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What do you want to know? They are fairly common on power boats where
you've got enough power to run things like that. My trawler has 4
water cooled air conditioners with reverse cycle heating, 2 water
cooled refrigeration units, and a water cooled freezer. Fortunately I
have a neighbor here in FL that knows how to keep it all running. :-)
The fridges and freezer have individual circulating pumps for their
condensing units (small gas/water heat exchanger coils), and the A/Cs
are all driven from one large circulating pump similar to what you
would use for a swimming pool filtration system.


What mechanism provides the cold?

Do you have an airconditioner pump, evaporator and condenser to cool
recirculated water?

I was twigged when you indicated water cooled A/C, and was hoping
your system used cool sea water to provide modest cooling to the
cabin, with no power needed to actually chill the water.

Guess not.

Thanks,

Terry K


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Terry Spragg wrote in
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What mechanism provides the cold?


Same as any window unit....Freon, mostly R-22 but more R-134A these days
at lower pressures. The difference is the condensor is cooled with
seawater. There's a pipe-in-a-pipe. The inside pipe is where the high
pressure freon is pumped by the AC compressor. The outside pipe has a
flow of seawater going through it at no pressure at all...from a little,
cheap plastic pump whos strainer soon fills with some of the nastiest
prehistoric creatures on earth sucked up from the sealife that lives
under a marina dock....blocking the strainer, zeroing out the seawater
flow, overpressuring the backed up freon condensor and causing a tripout
from high head pressure on the AC compressor.....It's inevitable...(c;


Do you have an airconditioner pump, evaporator and condenser to cool
recirculated water?


The water is raw seawater, not recirculated. It eventually eats the
condensor from its caustic contents. (see pipe-in-a-pipe above). The
freon parts, except for this seawater condensor, are the same cheap crap
from a window airconditioner....marked up to amazing "marine" prices, of
course.


I was twigged when you indicated water cooled A/C, and was hoping
your system used cool sea water to provide modest cooling to the
cabin, with no power needed to actually chill the water.


Nope...it's just an air conditioner cooled with seawater.

Anyone in a boat with any brains will do what the tugboat operators
do....go to a MOTORHOME dealer and buy a rooftop AIR COOLED AC unit for
$2000 less money. No seawater flooding from a broken hose. No creatures
to clean out from tiny strainers all clogged up that bite like hell. No
duct work hogging valuable STORAGE SPACE at a premium inside the boat.
No losing valuable locker space for the damned NOISY air conditioning
unit INSIDE the living space, half of who's cooling capacity is cooling
its OWN STUPID HEAT. The RV AC unit has the noisy compressor and fan
OUTSIDE the living space so if you have a 12000 BTU unit, you get to use
all 12000 BTU cooling the space....not the hot compressor, hot fan motor,
hot seawater condensor, etc.

"Marine" air conditioners are really stupid on small boats like
sailboats. It was OK on the Hatteras because it was in the bilge, not
the sleeping space!


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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:20:23 -0400, Terry Spragg
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I was twigged when you indicated water cooled A/C, and was hoping
your system used cool sea water to provide modest cooling to the
cabin, with no power needed to actually chill the water.


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No unfortunately not, everything requires lots of power, not really
feasible unless you are dockside or have a generator.

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