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"Scotty" wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote ...
Skip all of them. Get a Catalina.

Which one?

The Island.

I would like to have at least 2 heads

At least then someone will talk to you.

SV

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"Scotty" wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote ...
Skip all of them. Get a Catalina.

Which one?

The Island.

I would like to have at least 2 heads

At least then someone will talk to you.

SV


Now that's funny!

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"Capt. JG" wrote:
"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Scotty" wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote ...
Skip all of them. Get a Catalina.

Which one?

The Island.

I would like to have at least 2 heads

At least then someone will talk to you.

SV

Now that's funny!

Except that I was slightly misquoted. I said
"I would like to have 3 staterooms and 2 heads..."

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"Capt. JG" wrote:
"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Scotty" wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote ...
Skip all of them. Get a Catalina.

Which one?

The Island.

I would like to have at least 2 heads

At least then someone will talk to you.

SV

Now that's funny!

Except that I was slightly misquoted. I said
"I would like to have 3 heads..."

Ahhh, better yet, someone to listen to your BS as well.

SV

Rich Hampel wrote
: Armond Perretta wrote:
wrote:

First I wanted to buy a Tayana Vancouver 460 because I like
the pilothouse design. Then I went to look at some Beneteaus
with cast iron keels and this made me worry about Tayana's
fiberglass keel getting damaged if I go island hopping in the
South Pacific or sail to my Lanta Island property. Then today
I talked to a Hunter salesman and he said that lead keels are
the best because they can absorb energy if I hit something
and are easier to repair than fiberglass.

If you were in my position would you just go ahead and get
a Tayana and not worry too much about the keel ? I need to
have 3 sleeping cabins and would like a boat that can be set
up for singlehanded sailing.

Before you spend a nickel on boats or tropical islands, check to see
if your medical insurance already includes psychiatric.

Good luck, buddo, 'cause you're sure gonna need it.

Armond, you took the 'troll' hook line and sinker.

As I get on in years I find that anything's possible. But before you
request a competency exam on me, Rich, you may want to re-read my post once
more.

Take care.

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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 23:19:22 GMT, wrote:


Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

You should solicit more opinions before you buy, as Tayanas, Beneteaus
and Hunters are pretty close to opposite spectrums of the cruising
experience. Keels have little to do with that.

However, rule out Hunters. They are fine for coastal and lake work,
but are geared way more to the dock-bound, floating condo, take it out
in 10-15 knots crowd.

Beneteaus are variable in suitability depending on model, age and
purpose of voyage. Some good, others no. Not my first choice
personally for ocean work, however.

Tayanas are proper cruisers, but old-fashioned and heavy. Probably the
best choice in your odd list, but that depends very much on age,
condition, etc.

Those are all very broad generalizations, but I will say that if you
expect to pick a boat based on a salesman's spiel, you've got other
issues than the composition of your keel.

R.

rhys wrote:

Tayanas are proper cruisers, but old-fashioned and heavy.
Probably the best choice in your odd list, but that depends
very much on age, condition, etc.

Thank you very much rhys.

The Tayana I like is the Vancouver 460 Pilot. Should I be
concerned about this boat's higher center of gravity or low
ballast/displacement ratio of 0.238 or do you think this isn't
a problem since the ballast is at the bottom of the keel ?

They've only built 7 of them starting in 2001 so the age
shouldn't be a problem. Or maybe I should buy a new one
since the asking price for a new one is $36,500 less than
the asking price for hull #1.

I think other Tayana models with 3 staterooms are larger
and more expensive unless they're more than 10 years old.