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[email protected] November 10th 05 08:22 PM

No Discharge Zone
 
Does anyone know the government website that would provide a current
map/listing of no discharge zones?


Jonathan Ganz November 10th 05 08:58 PM

No Discharge Zone
 
In article .com,
wrote:
Does anyone know the government website that would provide a current
map/listing of no discharge zones?


Here are the rules... not sure what you mean by a map, as this applies
to all areas.

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...ting/4_2_f.htm



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"j" ganz @@
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Jim Carter November 10th 05 09:22 PM

No Discharge Zone
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
wrote:
Does anyone know the government website that would provide a current
map/listing of no discharge zones?


Here are the rules... not sure what you mean by a map, as this applies
to all areas.

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...ting/4_2_f.htm



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


There is also a law which a lot of Americans that boat in the Canadian
waters of the Great Lakes do not know about. "Porta Potties" are
prohibited. Your vessel must have a marine sanitation device, which is
permanently installed, with pump out capabilites. No overboard discharge
valves are allowed.

Jim C.



Jonathan Ganz November 10th 05 10:53 PM

No Discharge Zone
 
In article ,
Jim Carter wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
wrote:
Does anyone know the government website that would provide a current
map/listing of no discharge zones?


Here are the rules... not sure what you mean by a map, as this applies
to all areas.

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...ting/4_2_f.htm



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


There is also a law which a lot of Americans that boat in the Canadian
waters of the Great Lakes do not know about. "Porta Potties" are
prohibited. Your vessel must have a marine sanitation device, which is
permanently installed, with pump out capabilites. No overboard discharge
valves are allowed.


Is there a size limit for that kind of restriction? (No, not the size
of the head... g the size of the boat)

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Peggie Hall November 11th 05 02:33 AM

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wrote:

Does anyone know the government website that would provide a current
map/listing of no discharge zones?


http://www.epa.gov/owow/oceans/regul...vsdnozone.html


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Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
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Peggie Hall November 11th 05 02:37 AM

No Discharge Zone
 
Jim Carter wrote:
There is also a law which a lot of Americans that boat in the Canadian
waters of the Great Lakes do not know about. "Porta Potties" are
prohibited. Your vessel must have a marine sanitation device, which is
permanently installed, with pump out capabilites. No overboard discharge
valves are allowed.


That law is fairly strictly enforced against Canadian flagged vessels,
but transient vessels with portapotties and overboard discharge
capability have never had a problem--at least none that I've ever heard
of in nearly 20 years--provided their systems are properly secured and
they don't dump their portpotties overboard.


Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

Peggie Hall November 11th 05 02:50 AM

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Captain Joe Redcloud wrote:

A "no-discharge zone" is different than the general prohibition
concerning the 3 mile limit. There are plenty of places in the US
where you can discharge "treated waste" from a Lectra-San type unit.
Those units are completely illegal in a no-discharge zone unless they
have a holding tank to use while in those areas. I am not sure they
can even be fitted with a holding tank.


Yes, they can. You're correct that the discharge of treated waste from
a USCG certified Type I or II MSD (device that treats waste to legal
standards and discharges it overboard is legal in most COASTAL US
waters, but not in any water specifically designated "no discharge."
However, any boat equipped with a treatment device only needs to have a
holding tank too--and use it of course--while in "no discharge" waters.
In fact, almost all boats fitted with treatment devices also have a tank
for use if/when they visit a "no discharge" harbor or marina.

While we're on the subject...there is nothing that can be added to
holding tank to make it legal to dump it in ANY US waters. Only devices
that have been certified by the USCG as Type I (legal on boats 66' LOA)
or Type II (required for boats 66'+ LOA) are legal treatment devices.
Nor is it legal to flush directly overboard or dump a tank in any U.S.
water...you must be outside the "3 mile limit" to flush a toilet
directly overboard or dump a tank legally. That doesn't mean 3 miles
from shore in the middle of LIS, the Chesapeake, SF Bay, Puget Sound
etc...it means open ocean at least 3 miles from the nearest point on the
whole US coastline.
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Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

Jere Lull November 11th 05 03:06 AM

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In article ,
lid (Jonathan Ganz) wrote:

There is also a law which a lot of Americans that boat in the
Canadian waters of the Great Lakes do not know about. "Porta
Potties" are prohibited. Your vessel must have a marine sanitation
device, which is permanently installed, with pump out capabilites.
No overboard discharge valves are allowed.


Is there a size limit for that kind of restriction? (No, not the size
of the head... g the size of the boat)


I've been told it applies to 22' boats....

And I believe there was a minor inaccuracy in the first post: Overboard
discharge valves aren't illegal, but being able to *use* them is. They
need to be "permanently" closed. Also, porta potties that are
permanently mounted and can be pumped out are legal.

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[email protected] November 11th 05 11:42 AM

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Perfect. Thank you.

Having purchased and read Peggie's book - I do recommend it.


[email protected] November 11th 05 11:51 AM

No Discharge Zone
 
After waste goes into the holding tank, can the system be plumbed to
then treat the waste with the treatment device, and discharge the waste
when the vessel leaves the no discharge zone, or is a pump-out the only
option to empty the holding tank?

Peggie Hall wrote:
However, any boat equipped with a treatment device only needs to have a
holding tank too--and use it of course--while in "no discharge" waters.
In fact, almost all boats fitted with treatment devices also have a tank
for use if/when they visit a "no discharge" harbor or marina.
--
Peggie




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