buoy interpretation
 

With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've been
on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river buoy.

-Greg

buoy interpretation
 

Get thee to a Coast Guard Aux or Power Squadron or other local group boating
safety class. All will be revealed. Very well worth the time.

Rusty
"Dene" dene@(nospam) ipns.com wrote in message
...
With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've
been
on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river
buoy.

-Greg

buoy interpretation
 

Greg,
You may want to pick yourself up a copy of Chapman Piloting,
Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling. You can find it in bookstores and
marine stores. You may also want to contact your local U.S. Coast
Guard Auxiliary flotilla, or your local United States Power and Sail
Squadron. Both these organizations offer public safe boating classes
that cover the Inland Navigation Rules. The classes are well worth the
time.

Dan Schiro
M/V Sea Ranch


Dene (nospam) wrote:
With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've been
on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river buoy.

-Greg

buoy interpretation
 

"Dene" dene@(nospam) ipns.com wrote in message
...
With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've
been
on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river
buoy.

-Greg

Since it appears you are talking about the IALA "A" system, you might be
best off looking for some organization in your country which teaches small
boating safety, etc.
The basic systems are simple and easy to learn, but generally a course on
the subject can help uncover any minor questions which may arise.

otn

buoy interpretation
 

Dene wrote:
With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've been
on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river buoy.

-Greg



Best advice...take a Power Squadron boating course. You will study what
you need to know and have fun doing it while meeting other boaters.

buoy interpretation
 

On 10 Nov 2005, "Dene" dene@(nospam) ipns.com wrote:

With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've been
on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river buoy.


Use Google or Yahoo or the like to respond to a search something (or,
for that matter, exactly) like:

boating rules of the road buoys

then read the obviously relevant material the links will show.

buoy interpretation
 

"NeptunesJester" wrote in message
oups.com...
Greg,
You may want to pick yourself up a copy of Chapman Piloting,
Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling. You can find it in bookstores and
marine stores. You may also want to contact your local U.S. Coast
Guard Auxiliary flotilla, or your local United States Power and Sail
Squadron. Both these organizations offer public safe boating classes
that cover the Inland Navigation Rules. The classes are well worth the
time.

Dan Schiro
M/V Sea Ranch


Dene (nospam) wrote:
With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've
been
on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river
buoy.

-Greg


Thank you all for the great advice. I do intend to take a course this
winter. A friend gave me Chapman's book and I've begun
perusing....chanting, "right of red returning from sea."

Now if I just knew what the green ones meant.

-Greg

buoy interpretation
 

Dene wrote:
"NeptunesJester" wrote in message
oups.com...

Greg,
You may want to pick yourself up a copy of Chapman Piloting,
Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling. You can find it in bookstores and
marine stores. You may also want to contact your local U.S. Coast
Guard Auxiliary flotilla, or your local United States Power and Sail
Squadron. Both these organizations offer public safe boating classes
that cover the Inland Navigation Rules. The classes are well worth the
time.

Dan Schiro
M/V Sea Ranch


Dene (nospam) wrote:

With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've

been

on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river

buoy.

-Greg



Thank you all for the great advice. I do intend to take a course this
winter. A friend gave me Chapman's book and I've begun
perusing....chanting, "right of red returning from sea."

Now if I just knew what the green ones meant.

-Greg


If you go "right of red" returning from sea, you will run aground. It's
"red right" returningfrom sea, meaning that you keep the bouy to your
right or starboard side. The green marks the other side of the channel.
Which means that it will be on your port (left) side.
krj

buoy interpretation
 

krj wrote:
Dene wrote:

"NeptunesJester" wrote in message
oups.com...

Greg,
You may want to pick yourself up a copy of Chapman Piloting,
Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling. You can find it in bookstores and
marine stores. You may also want to contact your local U.S. Coast
Guard Auxiliary flotilla, or your local United States Power and Sail
Squadron. Both these organizations offer public safe boating classes
that cover the Inland Navigation Rules. The classes are well worth the
time.

Dan Schiro
M/V Sea Ranch


Dene (nospam) wrote:

With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've


been

on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling
with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river


buoy.

-Greg




Thank you all for the great advice. I do intend to take a course this
winter. A friend gave me Chapman's book and I've begun
perusing....chanting, "right of red returning from sea."

Now if I just knew what the green ones meant.

-Greg


If you go "right of red" returning from sea, you will run aground. It's
"red right" returningfrom sea, meaning that you keep the bouy to your
right or starboard side. The green marks the other side of the channel.
Which means that it will be on your port (left) side.
krj
Unless you are in Europe or anywhere outside North America.

buoy interpretation
 

Gary wrote:

krj wrote:

Dene wrote:

"NeptunesJester" wrote in message
oups.com...

Greg,
You may want to pick yourself up a copy of Chapman Piloting,
Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling. You can find it in bookstores and
marine stores. You may also want to contact your local U.S. Coast
Guard Auxiliary flotilla, or your local United States Power and Sail
Squadron. Both these organizations offer public safe boating classes
that cover the Inland Navigation Rules. The classes are well worth the
time.

Dan Schiro
M/V Sea Ranch


Dene (nospam) wrote:

With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've



been

on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling
with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river



buoy.

-Greg





Thank you all for the great advice. I do intend to take a course this
winter. A friend gave me Chapman's book and I've begun
perusing....chanting, "right of red returning from sea."

Now if I just knew what the green ones meant.

-Greg


If you go "right of red" returning from sea, you will run aground.
It's "red right" returningfrom sea, meaning that you keep the bouy to
your right or starboard side. The green marks the other side of the
channel. Which means that it will be on your port (left) side.
krj

Unless you are in Europe or anywhere outside North America.
Well, if he is studying Chapmans, I assumed he was in the US.
krj

buoy interpretation
 

"Dene" dene@(nospam) ipns.com wrote in message
...



Thank you all for the great advice. I do intend to take a course this
winter. A friend gave me Chapman's book and I've begun
perusing....chanting, "right of red returning from sea."

Now if I just knew what the green ones meant.

-Greg

Basically, the greens mark the opposite side of the channel.
As stated, you're talking IALA "A" buoyage where it's "red right returning
to sea" or "right of red returning from sea", so if you pass a red buoy on
your port side returning from sea and you see a green buoy, keep it on your
stbd hand as you pass it.

otn

buoy interpretation
 

Dene wrote:
"NeptunesJester" wrote in message
oups.com...

Greg,
You may want to pick yourself up a copy of Chapman Piloting,
Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling. You can find it in bookstores and
marine stores. You may also want to contact your local U.S. Coast
Guard Auxiliary flotilla, or your local United States Power and Sail
Squadron. Both these organizations offer public safe boating classes
that cover the Inland Navigation Rules. The classes are well worth the
time.

Dan Schiro
M/V Sea Ranch


Dene (nospam) wrote:

With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've

been

on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river

buoy.

-Greg



Thank you all for the great advice. I do intend to take a course this
winter. A friend gave me Chapman's book and I've begun
perusing....chanting, "right of red returning from sea."

Now if I just knew what the green ones meant.

-Greg


We simplify the chant...
red...right...return
when entering harbour..keep green to port
when leaving harbour...keep green to starboard.

buoy interpretation
 

krj wrote:

If you go "right of red" returning from sea, you will run aground. It's
"red right" returningfrom sea, meaning that you keep the bouy to your
right or starboard side. The green marks the other side of the channel.
Which means that it will be on your port (left) side.
krj

Should we tell this guy that in Europe & most of the rest of the
worls...it's opposite?

buoy interpretation
 

http://www.boatsafe.com/







"Dene" dene@(nospam) ipns.com wrote in message
...
With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this
week, I've been
on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which
explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still
struggling with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a
green river buoy.

-Greg

buoy interpretation
 

as others have said
it is red on right when returning
your green river bouy may be a bit more challanging if the river is
open at both ends or if it is so long that you don't know which way is
returning. keep in mind that the bouy numbers go up when returning. One
of the best things to do is to get charts and see what the red and
green bouys are keeping you away from. then you begin to understand
what they mean
hope this helps

buoy interpretation
 

Don White wrote:
Dene wrote:

"NeptunesJester" wrote in message
oups.com...

Greg,
You may want to pick yourself up a copy of Chapman Piloting,
Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling. You can find it in bookstores and
marine stores. You may also want to contact your local U.S. Coast
Guard Auxiliary flotilla, or your local United States Power and Sail
Squadron. Both these organizations offer public safe boating classes
that cover the Inland Navigation Rules. The classes are well worth the
time.

Dan Schiro
M/V Sea Ranch


Dene (nospam) wrote:

With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've


been

on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling
with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river


buoy.

-Greg




Thank you all for the great advice. I do intend to take a course this
winter. A friend gave me Chapman's book and I've begun
perusing....chanting, "right of red returning from sea."

Now if I just knew what the green ones meant.

-Greg


We simplify the chant...
red...right...return
when entering harbour..keep green to port
when leaving harbour...keep green to starboard.
Nobody navigates anything but the smallest boat (when it really doesn't
matter) without looking at a chart. It will be obvious which side to
leave the buoys on. Get a chart.

buoy interpretation
 

"krj" wrote in message
...
Dene wrote:
"NeptunesJester" wrote in message
oups.com...

Greg,
You may want to pick yourself up a copy of Chapman Piloting,
Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling. You can find it in bookstores and
marine stores. You may also want to contact your local U.S. Coast
Guard Auxiliary flotilla, or your local United States Power and Sail
Squadron. Both these organizations offer public safe boating classes
that cover the Inland Navigation Rules. The classes are well worth the
time.

Dan Schiro
M/V Sea Ranch


Dene (nospam) wrote:

With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've

been

on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling
with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river

buoy.

-Greg



Thank you all for the great advice. I do intend to take a course this
winter. A friend gave me Chapman's book and I've begun
perusing....chanting, "right of red returning from sea."

Now if I just knew what the green ones meant.

-Greg


If you go "right of red" returning from sea, you will run aground. It's
"red right" returningfrom sea, meaning that you keep the bouy to your
right or starboard side. The green marks the other side of the channel.
Which means that it will be on your port (left) side.
krj

You're right. I'm meant right of which means left, not right of red. Just
right.......

Damn.....confused again.

Ok....better question. When I run aground, what's the first thing I should
do? ;

-Greg

buoy interpretation
 

Don White wrote:
krj wrote:

If you go "right of red" returning from sea, you will run aground.
It's "red right" returningfrom sea, meaning that you keep the bouy
to your right or starboard side. The green marks the other side of
the channel. Which means that it will be on your port (left) side.
krj

Should we tell this guy that in Europe & most of the rest of the
worls...it's opposite?

Is there a world outside the US?

buoy interpretation
 

richard wrote:
as others have said
it is red on right when returning
your green river bouy may be a bit more challanging if the river is
open at both ends or if it is so long that you don't know which way is
returning. keep in mind that the bouy numbers go up when returning.
One of the best things to do is to get charts and see what the red and
green bouys are keeping you away from. then you begin to understand
what they mean
hope this helps

In Europe the direction of bouyage is the same direction as the flood tide,
and when entering a harbour or river mouth the bouyage is red-to-red and
green-to-green. Time the shipping world got together on this and agreed a
worldwide system.

buoy interpretation
 

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:50:35 GMT, "Dennis Pogson"
wrote:

richard wrote:
as others have said
it is red on right when returning
your green river bouy may be a bit more challanging if the river is
open at both ends or if it is so long that you don't know which way is
returning. keep in mind that the bouy numbers go up when returning.
One of the best things to do is to get charts and see what the red and
green bouys are keeping you away from. then you begin to understand
what they mean
hope this helps

In Europe the direction of bouyage is the same direction as the flood tide,
and when entering a harbour or river mouth the bouyage is red-to-red and
green-to-green. Time the shipping world got together on this and agreed a
worldwide system.


But IALA A and IALA B are the result of the world getting together and
agreeing!

I undertand that IALA B, now used only by the US, its territories, and
its client states in Asia, was the original proposal. But the
Europeans were slow to understand the import of a unified marker
system. So they failed to support it. And then came IALA A and the
current mess.

buoy interpretation
 

richard wrote:
as others have said
it is red on right when returning
your green river bouy may be a bit more challanging if the river is
open at both ends or if it is so long that you don't know which way is
returning. keep in mind that the bouy numbers go up when returning. One
of the best things to do is to get charts and see what the red and
green bouys are keeping you away from. then you begin to understand
what they mean
hope this helps

Very good advice. That's why a Power Squadron 'Boating' & then
'Piloting' couse are necessary. Learn how to read a chart.

buoy interpretation
 

Dennis Pogson wrote:


Is there a world outside the US?


Yes...a big, bright, beautiful technicolour world... you should step out
of the darkness & see it sometime.

buoy interpretation
 

Bil wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:50:35 GMT, "Dennis Pogson"
wrote:


richard wrote:

as others have said
it is red on right when returning
your green river bouy may be a bit more challanging if the river is
open at both ends or if it is so long that you don't know which way is
returning. keep in mind that the bouy numbers go up when returning.
One of the best things to do is to get charts and see what the red and
green bouys are keeping you away from. then you begin to understand
what they mean
hope this helps

In Europe the direction of bouyage is the same direction as the flood tide,
and when entering a harbour or river mouth the bouyage is red-to-red and
green-to-green. Time the shipping world got together on this and agreed a
worldwide system.



But IALA A and IALA B are the result of the world getting together and
agreeing!

I undertand that IALA B, now used only by the US, its territories, and
its client states in Asia, was the original proposal. But the
Europeans were slow to understand the import of a unified marker
system. So they failed to support it. And then came IALA A and the
current mess.
If IALA B came first it would be IALA A! The europeans had buoyage
systems in place when they discovered the Americas.

Gaz

buoy interpretation
 

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:23:48 +0800, Bil wrote:



But IALA A and IALA B are the result of the world getting together and
agreeing!

I undertand that IALA B, now used only by the US, its territories, and
its client states in Asia, was the original proposal. But the
Europeans were slow to understand the import of a unified marker
system. So they failed to support it. And then came IALA A and the
current mess.

As I understand it, IALA is a committee of government committees -
since they agreed that an international standard for such an important
safety item would be a good idea, they decided that _two_ standards
would be better. :-)

IALA system B is used in all of North and South America and the
Caribbean, and in Japan, Korea, and the Philippines, according to a
map in a Canadian Coast Guard publication on Aids to Navigation.



--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

buoy interpretation
 

On 10 Nov 2005 20:32:40 -0800, "richard"
wrote:

as others have said
it is red on right when returning
your green river bouy may be a bit more challanging if the river is
open at both ends or if it is so long that you don't know which way is
returning. keep in mind that the bouy numbers go up when returning. One
of the best things to do is to get charts and see what the red and
green bouys are keeping you away from. then you begin to understand
what they mean
hope this helps

Indeed - read the chart to see _why_ the buoy is where it is, and if
it matters to you. Buoys are often placed to mark things that would
be hazards to larger commercial vessels, so may often be ignored by
small pleasure craft.

Also, sometimes even the Coast Guard isn't sure whether a particular
hazard should have a port or starboard hand marker. There is one
daybeacon locally that was initially installed as a Port Hand (green)
mark (it is on the port side of a small bay, where there was a
marina). A month or two later, it was changed to starboard (red), as
it is on the starboard side of Howe Sound,, and commercial traffic in
Howe Sound would leave it to starboard. Another month or two later,
it was changed back to port, as it is so close to shore that the
commercial guys wouldn't even notice it, and the only people concerned
were the marina customers.



--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

buoy interpretation
 

Hi Greg,
When you run aground, you first want to make a quick check of the
crew to make sure no one is injured, have them put on their life
jackets, then make an inspection of the hull to make sure its not
holed. Once you have determined that you are not taking on water, then
you can turn your attention to getting ungrounded. There are several
approaches depending on your type of vessel, where your cruising
grounds are (coastal, river, etc), and what you are grounded on (mud,
sand, rock, grass beds, coral). These procedures are covered in the
Coast Guard Aux. and US Power and Sail Squadron classes. If you use a
line to tow the boat to deeper water, make sure everyone is clear of
the tow line - they have been known to part with deadly consequences.

A word of caution: if someone, whether commercial or not, offers to tow
you to deep water be cautious. Depending on the type of grounding and
the circumstances that surround it such as weather, traffic, etc., they
could claim salvage on your vessel. I would recommend that you get an
unlimited towing package from a company like TowBoat US or Sea Tow.
For about a $100 a year for unlimited towing, it brings a lot of peace
of mind on the water. Even with these services, groundings may still
fall under salvage, but you'll know what you are getting into before
they render the services.

Later,
Dan Schiro
M/V Sea Ranch


Dene (nospam) wrote:
"krj" wrote in message
...
Dene wrote:
"NeptunesJester" wrote in message
oups.com...

Greg,
You may want to pick yourself up a copy of Chapman Piloting,
Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling. You can find it in bookstores and
marine stores. You may also want to contact your local U.S. Coast
Guard Auxiliary flotilla, or your local United States Power and Sail
Squadron. Both these organizations offer public safe boating classes
that cover the Inland Navigation Rules. The classes are well worth the
time.

Dan Schiro
M/V Sea Ranch


Dene (nospam) wrote:

With the acquisition of my first "yacht" (a 25 footer) this week, I've

been

on a learning curve. Given this, is there a site which explains, in
layman's terms, the meaning of various buoys. I'm still struggling
with
"right of red returning from sea," especially when I see a green river

buoy.

-Greg



Thank you all for the great advice. I do intend to take a course this
winter. A friend gave me Chapman's book and I've begun
perusing....chanting, "right of red returning from sea."

Now if I just knew what the green ones meant.

-Greg


If you go "right of red" returning from sea, you will run aground. It's
"red right" returningfrom sea, meaning that you keep the bouy to your
right or starboard side. The green marks the other side of the channel.
Which means that it will be on your port (left) side.
krj

You're right. I'm meant right of which means left, not right of red. Just
right.......

Damn.....confused again.

Ok....better question. When I run aground, what's the first thing I should
do? ;

-Greg

buoy interpretation
 

Peter Bennett wrote:


Indeed - read the chart to see _why_ the buoy is where it is, and if
it matters to you. Buoys are often placed to mark things that would
be hazards to larger commercial vessels, so may often be ignored by
small pleasure craft.

Also, sometimes even the Coast Guard isn't sure whether a particular
hazard should have a port or starboard hand marker. There is one
daybeacon locally that was initially installed as a Port Hand (green)
mark (it is on the port side of a small bay, where there was a
marina). A month or two later, it was changed to starboard (red), as
it is on the starboard side of Howe Sound,, and commercial traffic in
Howe Sound would leave it to starboard. Another month or two later,
it was changed back to port, as it is so close to shore that the
commercial guys wouldn't even notice it, and the only people concerned
were the marina customers.



In this case, I wonder if a Cardinal Buoy would have been more
practical.... the yellow/black colour scheme plus buoy top shape would
tell if danger is north/south/east/west of buoy.

buoy interpretation
 

NeptunesJester wrote:


Ok....better question. When I run aground, what's the first thing I should
do? ;

-Greg

After quickly checking on condition of crew/boat, I would call Coast
Guard on VHF. Up here they are very helpful pulling you off dangerous
rocks etc.

buoy interpretation
 

That would work as well depending on where you are. Down here on the
Northern Gulf Coast, the Coast Guard could care less about recreational
boaters. You'll only get their attention in a Mayday situation or if
you claim to have Al Qaeda members onboard. I called them one time to
report that some joker had swapped dayboard signs to opposite sides of
the channel. They said they knew about it, but didn't have the fuel to
run the boat to fix them. I'm still waiting for a call back from the
Duty Officer from a request I made back in April. I'm not holding my
breath.

I don't mean to rant on the Coast Guard, they do have their hands full
with all the new Homeland Security initiatives, drug interdictions, and
the like. They do a great job with what limited funding and antiquated
equipment they have.

buoy interpretation
 

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:01:27 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Peter Bennett wrote:

Also, sometimes even the Coast Guard isn't sure whether a particular
hazard should have a port or starboard hand marker. There is one
daybeacon locally that was initially installed as a Port Hand (green)
mark (it is on the port side of a small bay, where there was a
marina). A month or two later, it was changed to starboard (red), as
it is on the starboard side of Howe Sound,, and commercial traffic in
Howe Sound would leave it to starboard. Another month or two later,
it was changed back to port, as it is so close to shore that the
commercial guys wouldn't even notice it, and the only people concerned
were the marina customers.

In this case, I wonder if a Cardinal Buoy would have been more
practical.... the yellow/black colour scheme plus buoy top shape would
tell if danger is north/south/east/west of buoy.

A cardinal mark would probably better, but I don't think they'd been
invented at the time. Also, the thing is a daymark (actually a white
tower with a coloured band at the top, like a minor light, but without
the light), and the Aids to Nav book only shows cardinal buoys - no
cardinal daymarks.

There are a couple of places I'm aware of where a
potentially-confusing lateral buoy has been replaced by a cardinal.

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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:12:41 GMT, Gary wrote:

Bil wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:50:35 GMT, "Dennis Pogson"
wrote:


richard wrote:

as others have said
it is red on right when returning
your green river bouy may be a bit more challanging if the river is
open at both ends or if it is so long that you don't know which way is
returning. keep in mind that the bouy numbers go up when returning.
One of the best things to do is to get charts and see what the red and
green bouys are keeping you away from. then you begin to understand
what they mean
hope this helps

In Europe the direction of bouyage is the same direction as the flood tide,
and when entering a harbour or river mouth the bouyage is red-to-red and
green-to-green. Time the shipping world got together on this and agreed a
worldwide system.



But IALA A and IALA B are the result of the world getting together and
agreeing!

I undertand that IALA B, now used only by the US, its territories, and
its client states in Asia, was the original proposal. But the
Europeans were slow to understand the import of a unified marker
system. So they failed to support it. And then came IALA A and the
current mess.
If IALA B came first it would be IALA A! The europeans had buoyage
systems in place when they discovered the Americas.

Gaz

How old are you, Gaz? Older or younger than 35?

Buoyage was in a mess, in terms of the lack of existence of a 'system'
or 'systems' until the 1970s. Cynics would argue it's still in a mess,
just that the mess has superficial order imposed on it.

IALA, then the International Association of Lighthouse Authorities
(they've since renamed themselves, see http://www.iala-aism.org),
started agitating for a single world system in about 1965. Nothing
happened.

A shipping accident off France in 1971, associated with
misunderstanding of European buoyage 'systems' (or lack thereof),
stimulated the final push that come up with two systems of lateral
markers - the two systems, you guessed it, differed in how they used
red and green markers.

The first system (now called B) seemed close to acceptance until the
final vote. Then the system now called A was put to the vote. The
'wise' men couldn't agree, so we now have System A and System B.

The A and B monikers are there because those pushing for green to
starboard when heading for a major port had their proposal in 'final'
form first (but that was a couple of years after the debacle of the
voting rounds, proving yet again that we cannot just all get along).
AFAIK, System B was only in 'final' form in 1980 or thereabouts.

Cheers

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"Dene" dene@(nospam) ipns.com wrote in message
...


snip


Ok....better question. When I run aground, what's the first thing I
should
do? ;

-Greg



Heal the boat over. If your lucky, youre gounded on the windward side of the
chanel and you will blow off.

You can heal the boat by moving heavy objects and people. Sitting people on
the end of a strong boom can help immensely( does depend on the boat tho).
Backing sails. Filling sails. there are lots of ways. Of course this only
works in a single hulled monohull.

Anther trick is a Kedging anchor. Row away from the boat with a good anchor
in the tender.Once as far away as possible lower the anchor into the water.
Row back to the stranded vessel and start to which in the anchor via a sheet
winch if needed.

At very worst start emptying water tanks and removing heavy objects from the
boat.

A point worth noting , when I navigate a new channel I always stick to the
windward side if there is no traffic. For the very reason that it is easy to
get off it a grounding occurs. Yes, I know this is in breach of Colregs.
Shh, I wont tell if you dont :))

Cheers
DP

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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:43:04 -0800, "Dene" dene@(nospam) ipns.com
wrote:

Ok....better question. When I run aground, what's the first thing I should
do? ;

If it is a soft grounding in mud, try to keep the boat moving, even a
little bit, so you can drive out. If you come to a full stop, the mud
will settle in against the keel and lock you in place, so keep it
stirred. I have sucessfully driven out by putting the rudder hard over
to twist the boat in place, back and forth, eventually doing a 180 and
driving back out the way I came in.

Of course, if you were doing full speed when you found the mud, then
you are probably just stuck, and that's a good reason to approach
shallow spots slowly.

Ryk

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d parker wrote:
"Dene" dene@(nospam) ipns.com wrote in message
...


snip


Ok....better question. When I run aground, what's the first thing I
should
do? ;

-Greg




Heal the boat over. If your lucky, youre gounded on the windward side of the
chanel and you will blow off.

You can heal the boat by moving heavy objects and people. Sitting people on
the end of a strong boom can help immensely( does depend on the boat tho).
Backing sails. Filling sails. there are lots of ways. Of course this only
works in a single hulled monohull.

Anther trick is a Kedging anchor. Row away from the boat with a good anchor
in the tender.Once as far away as possible lower the anchor into the water.
Row back to the stranded vessel and start to which in the anchor via a sheet
winch if needed.

At very worst start emptying water tanks and removing heavy objects from the
boat.

A point worth noting , when I navigate a new channel I always stick to the
windward side if there is no traffic. For the very reason that it is easy to
get off it a grounding occurs. Yes, I know this is in breach of Colregs.
Shh, I wont tell if you dont :))

Cheers
DP


Also, consider tide and currents. Sometimes the easy way to get off
is to have dinner and wait for the tide. Sailing a bilge keeler,
the best way is often to loose sheets, boat rights itself and drifts
off, or further on.

Terry K

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"d parker" wrote in message
...
Snip


You can heal the boat by moving heavy objects and people. Sitting people
on
the end of a strong boom can help immensely( does depend on the boat tho).
Backing sails. Filling sails. there are lots of ways. Of course this only
works in a single hulled monohull.
Snip

typo above...

The last line should read. Single keeled monohull of course.

DP