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ICW anchorage listing
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The Intracoastal Waterway (ICW) It is possible to travel by boat along much of the East Coast and Gulf Coast of the United States without going "outside" into the Atlantic Ocean. How much of the trip you can make "inside" depends on your boat." Fairly extensive list of anchorage sites on the ICW from the crusing logs of others listing location mileage marker and area notes. ________________________________ http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/tide/sitesel.html Tidal Height and Current Site Selection Select a region here, then from that page, select a site for which to generate predictions. http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/ Welcome to the Navigation Center! |
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Larry wrote:
(Mic) wrote ... It is possible to travel by boat along much of the East Coast and Gulf Coast of the United States without going "outside" into the Atlantic Ocean ... What a silly idea ... Might as well get a motorhome and tow an Escalade.... Really? Have you actually _tried_ it, or are you relying on a set of assumptions? The "boat" thing, of course. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare |
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"Armond Perretta" wrote in
: Really? Have you actually _tried_ it, or are you relying on a set of assumptions? The "boat" thing, of course. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare Motored the ICW from about Wilmington to the ditch down the E Coast of FL....BORING...except when the 6' keel was dragging and snagging the crap on the bottom from no dredging. Florida was awful....a constant series of no-wake zones to protect the manatees who are overrunning the place. The "channel" at Lake Worth was very noteworthy. 6' is too much draft for it. It's pretty here in SC, but after you've seen 1 mile of swamp, you've pretty much seen the next 100, unless you count the dock owners screaming and shaking their fists as you RACE by at 6 knots. How many swamp reeds can you look at per mile? Nope...just point me N up 80W until we see Kiawah Island and we'll be close to home in no time.... Boats belong OFFSHORE in the OCEAN, not in someone's backwater bathtub. -- Larry |
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Larry wrote:
"Armond Perretta" wrote ... Really? Have you actually _tried_ it, or are you relying on a set of assumptions? The "boat" thing, of course. Motored the ICW from about Wilmington ... DE or NC? ... to the ditch down the E Coast of FL....BORING...except when the 6' keel was dragging and snagging the crap on the bottom from no dredging. Florida was awful....a constant series of no-wake zones to protect the manatees who are overrunning the place. The "channel" at Lake Worth was very noteworthy. 6' is too much draft for it. You would benefit from just "pulling over" and enjoying the view. There is no inherent superiority of one over the other when it comes to comparing offshore to inshore to inland. Boats belong OFFSHORE in the OCEAN, not in someone's backwater bathtub. Boats "belong" wherever the folks on board are enjoying themselves. People do not, in general, like being dictated to when it comes to what they should do to have fun. I have over the years listened all too often to this kind of thing. If the Water Rat could satisfy himself on a heavy dew, the rest of us should take heed. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare |
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"Armond Perretta" wrote:
Larry wrote: "Armond Perretta" wrote ... Really? Have you actually _tried_ it, or are you relying on a set of assumptions? The "boat" thing, of course. Motored the ICW from about Wilmington ... DE or NC? Yes I wondered the same thing. ... to the ditch down the E Coast of FL....BORING...except when the 6' keel was dragging and snagging the To have really boring IMHO you would be out in the middle of the ocean with nothing to look at. Some people don't even like sailing in the lower part of the Chesapeake as they think having the shore that far away is boring. crap on the bottom from no dredging. Florida was awful....a constant series of no-wake zones to protect the manatees who are overrunning the place. The "channel" at Lake Worth was very noteworthy. 6' is too much draft for it. I kind of agree that the manatees are not endangered. It is just that this is the north end of their range, so there aren't as many here. But even so, that's no reason to go running them down with a boat. Why would a sailboat be concerned with a no-wake zone anyway? Wake? What's that? Wakes are for motor boats. You would benefit from just "pulling over" and enjoying the view. There is no inherent superiority of one over the other when it comes to comparing offshore to inshore to inland. That's what I wanted to say, but you said it better. Boats belong OFFSHORE in the OCEAN, not in someone's backwater bathtub. Boats "belong" wherever the folks on board are enjoying themselves. People do not, in general, like being dictated to when it comes to what they should do to have fun. I have over the years listened all too often to this kind of thing. If the Water Rat could satisfy himself on a heavy dew, the rest of us should take heed. grandma Rosalie |
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Larry wrote:
"Armond Perretta" wrote ... DE or NC? NC. Sane people sail SOUTH from here....way too many beautiful places to sail North into the industrial slime. Yeah, them used car lots on Mount Desert Island are the pits. Have you done the South Carolina coast, other than the ditch passing through? Yes, but not in as much detail as they warrant, I suspect. The ditch is the worst of it. I took some Canadians in their sailboat up into the lake up the Cooper River into Lake Moultrie for a little fresh water flush ... The Canadians had been through here many times and had no idea how beautiful it was up there ... Let's back up a bit. Didn't you just say one or two posts ago that boats belong offshore? When did you change your position and admit what I've been saying all along in this thread? You can motor our waterways, especially during the week, and never see a single soul for miles and miles. Anchor out any place you like away from the ditch and harbor. Bring your crab trap and anchor out off some tidal creek in 16' of water. Dinner blue crab is just waiting for you here in a couple of hours. Some who find out about us never do make it to Florida's overcrowded ditches for the winter. It was 82 and sunny, today. Charleston weather is the same as Jacksonville's without the bumper-to- bumper boat traffic jammed into the ditch because there's no place else to go. You have made my point quite well. Thanks for your support. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare |
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"Armond Perretta" wrote in
: Let's back up a bit. Didn't you just say one or two posts ago that boats belong offshore? When did you change your position and admit what I've been saying all along in this thread? Our original conversation was dealing with "ICW Anchorage Listing", a trip up (or down, depending on your reference I suppose) The Ditch. There are parts of it that meander way around South of Charleston in fairly pristine "Low Country", as the Chamber of Commerce prefers we call the SWAMPS we call home. The basis was to TRAVEL, not enjoy at leisure, from Nawth to Flo'da, as Yankees are inclined to do. This ends up in a boring line of traffic worrying each other about contact. This isn't very pleasurable, I've found, especially on the lower end of the trip where The Ditch really IS a ditch, behind a beach, straight as a sewer pipe. For this trip, just leave me offshore enjoying the pleasure of the waves slapping the hull and throwing dinner on the deck, at times. Leave me to my playful friends all trying to see who can jump over the bow spirit without whacking a tail or who can do the most barrel rolls from stern to bow in one sweep. Leave me out there in the pitch black after the moon sets far enough offshore the light floods from the condos don't blank out my fascination with Carl Sagan's "Billions and Billions" rolling in an odd oval overhead as I lay in an open cockpit, anxiously waiting for that inevitable flying fish to come upset my lazy reclination and scare the bejesus out of me with his stinking flailing as he failed to clear the other top of the cockpit gunwale, gasping for life. Bungee jumpers go nothing on my adrenalin rush caused by being struck square in the temple by a flying fish coming out of the blackness at 30 mph. You KNOW when you're going to jump. The fish make the anticipation agonizing....especially if your whole watch it never happens. Then there was that awful whooshing sound of "something" surfacing 30 yards to starboard you just couldn't see before it filled its blowhole and returned to the depths under the keel. That awful feeling of complete helplessness that doesn't go away, even when your watch is over. AS for the trip upriver to anchor out in some deserted estuary mouth so far away from the marked channel you see no blinking lights to spoil your latest book chapter after a fine meal.....that's a different topic altogether. To test which mode, you ask the question....Can I see any kind of navigational marker from here indicating someone ELSE has been here in the last, say, 20 years? No? Ah, this IS a great anchorage! Can you see any evidence of human habitation spoiling your field of view? The Ditch is lined with the decadence of our society. Where I was talking about, the only evidence you may see is 200 years old, perhaps part of a wooden dam used to flood a rice field by our ancestors or the hulk of an old boat or building, partially eaten away by time and tide to complete the perfect landscape you never need paint to remember it by. Unlike the TRAVEL trip, this trip is really to nowhere special and we can simply throw overboard any fool that spoils it for the rest of us by saying he/she has to be back at the dock at some specific time to continue their quest for money or fame. God how I hate it when becalmed offshore and someone says we're never going to "get there" in a timely fashion. If he needed to "get there", I wish he'd said something before stepping aboard so we could arrange for his plane ticket so he didn't spoil MY enjoyment of being totally becalmed between moments of sheer terror as we surfed down that 12' roller wondering if the storm jib was "too much sail" for these wind conditions and wondering, aloud at times, how the hell we were going to haul it down without ending up being dragged overboard......I need my rest! -- Larry Why the hell do people who have to "be somewhere" own or even ride in a SAILBOAT? |
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Larry wrote:
"Armond Perretta" wrote in : Let's back up a bit. Didn't you just say one or two posts ago that boats belong offshore? When did you change your position and admit what I've been saying all along in this thread? Our original conversation was dealing with "ICW Anchorage Listing", a trip up (or down, depending on your reference I suppose) The Ditch. There are parts of it that meander way around South of Charleston in fairly pristine "Low Country", as the Chamber of Commerce prefers we call the SWAMPS we call home. The basis was to TRAVEL, not enjoy at leisure, from Nawth to Flo'da, as Yankees are inclined to do. This ends up in a boring line of traffic worrying each other about contact. This isn't very pleasurable, I've found, especially on the lower end of the trip where The Ditch really IS a ditch, behind a beach, straight as a sewer pipe. That's your interpretation of the ICW. Maybe I'm not a Yankee (and I'm not sure that all the Canadians that do this route would appreciate being called Yankees), but we didn't worry others about contact (depending on what you meant by that). I got an email from a friend saying that they were passed (they have a slow boat) by 175 to 200 people a day - we apparently don't travel at a peak time so we didn't have that. We did tend to travel after the rush in the fall and earlier in the spring than most people. There are certain areas of the ICW that I don't like (notably the Rockpile and while there's stuff to see, I don't particularly like the area north of Wrightsville Beach) but most of it is just as you described your trip up the Cooper River. The Waccamaw River and the area south of Georgetown SC is really nice and so is the Indian River, and the sounds of Georgia can be very relaxing (although Bob finds them stressful because of the tides and also boring). For this trip, just leave me offshore enjoying the pleasure of the waves slapping the hull and throwing dinner on the deck, at times. Leave me to my playful friends all trying to see who can jump over the bow spirit without whacking a tail or who can do the most barrel rolls from stern to bow in one sweep. Leave me out there in the pitch black after the moon sets far enough offshore the light floods from the condos don't blank out my fascination with Carl Sagan's "Billions and Billions" rolling in an odd oval overhead as I lay in an open cockpit, anxiously waiting for that inevitable flying fish to come upset my lazy reclination and scare the bejesus out of me with his stinking flailing as he failed to clear the other top of the cockpit gunwale, gasping for life. Bungee jumpers go nothing on my adrenalin rush caused by being struck square in the temple by a flying fish coming out of the blackness at 30 mph. You KNOW when you're going to jump. The fish make the anticipation agonizing....especially if your whole watch it never happens. Then there was that awful whooshing sound of "something" surfacing 30 yards to starboard you just couldn't see before it filled its blowhole and returned to the depths under the keel. That awful feeling of complete helplessness that doesn't go away, even when your watch is over. AS for the trip upriver to anchor out in some deserted estuary mouth so far away from the marked channel you see no blinking lights to spoil your latest book chapter after a fine meal.....that's a different topic altogether. To test which mode, you ask the question....Can I see any kind of navigational marker from here indicating someone ELSE has been here in the last, say, 20 years? No? Ah, this IS a great anchorage! Can you see any evidence of human habitation spoiling your field of view? The Ditch is lined with the decadence of our society. Where I was talking about, the only evidence you may see is 200 years old, perhaps part of a wooden dam used to flood a rice field by our ancestors or the hulk of an old boat or building, partially eaten away by time and tide to complete the perfect landscape you never need paint to remember it by. Unlike the TRAVEL trip, this trip is really to nowhere special and we can simply throw overboard any fool that spoils it for the rest of us by saying he/she has to be back at the dock at some specific time to continue their quest for money or fame. God how I hate it when becalmed offshore and someone says we're never going to "get there" in a timely fashion. If he needed to "get there", I wish he'd said something before stepping aboard so we could arrange for his plane ticket so he didn't spoil MY enjoyment of being totally becalmed between moments of sheer terror as we surfed down that 12' roller wondering if the storm jib was "too much sail" for these wind conditions and wondering, aloud at times, how the hell we were going to haul it down without ending up being dragged overboard......I need my rest! Also a lot of the people in the ICW have power boats, and some of them have sailboats that wouldn't be suitable for offshore. grandma Rosalie |
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