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Len....do you run a radar system w/a alarm, as well?
if so, how reliable is it? can one set up audible alarms w/the AIS systems? thanx... "I "only" installed an AIS receiver where the AIS transponder is getting cheaper and almost reasonable. I bought the nasamarine engine thats connevted to a serial port of my pc. Together with SeaClear nav software the system is complete and functions well. I see my map, my own position, others together with the info I want presented" |
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Hi Rich (that IS your first name, no?),
In foul weather and when nothing comes on the screen I run the radar with intervals of 15 minutes (range 25 sm) to reduce power consumption. In good weather I just have it on standby at nights. Doesn't use much (dunno how much eaxactly this minute) and it saves me 2 full minutes warming up time when I need it fast. My radar is not that modern but it's a big mother, Simrad-Anritsu. Doesn't put out nmea of any kind, doesn't have marpa or all that. So you see why I'm happy with the addition AIS gives me. I take it you go singlehanded? We (the admiral and me) run watches of 3 hours. To be sure we use the old eggtimer for the next lookout and screen-study... Never felt the need for an auditive alarm other than my anchor alarm... But there surely will be nav software around that get's you awake when it calculates (a risk of) collision course from the AIS data... I can ask my dutch sailing computer club if you like... Len S/v Present On 18 Oct 2005 13:21:27 -0700, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote: Len....do you run a radar system w/a alarm, as well? if so, how reliable is it? can one set up audible alarms w/the AIS systems? thanx... "I "only" installed an AIS receiver where the AIS transponder is getting cheaper and almost reasonable. I bought the nasamarine engine thats connevted to a serial port of my pc. Together with SeaClear nav software the system is complete and functions well. I see my map, my own position, others together with the info I want presented" |
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I just completed a 20 day crossing to Hawaii and then 20 days
back from Oahu to the Columbia River. It is a 38ft sail boat and I had my wife, 11yr old son and 7yr old daughter as crew. I asked a lot of experienced sailors in Mexico what their standard "actual practice" for keeping watches was for ocean crossings. I got a lot of different answers, but they fit into a couple categories, all for when you 150+ miles off shore. Closer, most people I know have someone on deck pretty much all the time. 1. Set radar alarm and the autopilot and the whole crew goes to sleep for the night (only met a couple that did this one) 2. 24 hours a day, someone goes up on deck every 15 or 20 min and checks the heading, sail trim and the scans the horizon, and someone is fully awake at all times, watches from 3 to 4 hours. (A lot of people did this) 3. 24 hours a day, someone goes up deck every 15 min, leave the radar on alarm status all the time. At night the watch person can take cat naps in between the egg timer going off (we did this, and found a lot of others that did also) 4. Keep someone on deck at all times with 3 to 4 hour watches. (This was common for racers who do a lot of sail adjusting at night, boaters with larger crews, and for boaters who don't want to run the lights all night). For many more primitive boats the tri color or side and stern lights are a heavy percentage of the daily amperage consumption. I bought the low end monochrome radar from Raymarine. It uses very little power when the alarm is set and it is in sleep mode. It comes on every 15 min and does 20 sweeps. If it sees anything, then the alarm sounds. It was very good once we played with the gain a little. We set it to go off for anything from 2 miles to the max range it was effective, about 16 miles for ships at sea. We never saw a ship the alarm hadn't found first, so it gave us a lot of security, but we still kept the 15 min watch. I had to set the min distance on the alarm to 2 miles or the waves would set it off. We hailed every ship that was even remotely in our path. All but a couple answered our hail. Most did not see us until we hailed, but had no trouble changing course. The ships were usually about 1000ft by 300 ft and were doing 20 knots, most said they had crews of 19 . The captains often loved to talk wanted to know how long we had been out and where we were going etc. They were excellent sources to check the calibration of our barometer and were great at confirming our weather routing decisions. We saw very few ships, 4 on the way over and about 10 on the way back. My experience with ships has always been very positive, either in Puget sound, SF bay or on the left coast. I just hail them and recognize that I am out there having fun and they are making a living. The fishermen outside of the Columbia were great in helping me with a strategy for crossing bar for the first time. John S/V Pangea |
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ocean crusing & anti collision tactics....
great info John...congrat's on your crossing!!
helpful info...thanx...... |
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Interesting reading.
I often read various post regarding unmanned watches on ships (probably happens, but I'd consider it uncommon) and from what I'm reading below, it appears that most ships need be aware that an alarming percentage of cruising boats are employing unmanned watches AND possibly running without lights. 1. AIS is relatively new. Be aware that some of the information contained can be in error (junkin-junkout). 2. Radar alarms have improved greatly, but should be used only as a back-up to the on watch lookout. 3. Never run without lights .... can you guarantee you'll remember to turn them back on when needed? BTW, if you do get to one of those sites that show AIS info, notice the density of traffic in many areas ...... and those are only the vessels with AIS transponders. otn wrote in message ups.com... I just completed a 20 day crossing to Hawaii and then 20 days back from Oahu to the Columbia River. It is a 38ft sail boat and I had my wife, 11yr old son and 7yr old daughter as crew. I asked a lot of experienced sailors in Mexico what their standard "actual practice" for keeping watches was for ocean crossings. I got a lot of different answers, but they fit into a couple categories, all for when you 150+ miles off shore. Closer, most people I know have someone on deck pretty much all the time. 1. Set radar alarm and the autopilot and the whole crew goes to sleep for the night (only met a couple that did this one) 2. 24 hours a day, someone goes up on deck every 15 or 20 min and checks the heading, sail trim and the scans the horizon, and someone is fully awake at all times, watches from 3 to 4 hours. (A lot of people did this) 3. 24 hours a day, someone goes up deck every 15 min, leave the radar on alarm status all the time. At night the watch person can take cat naps in between the egg timer going off (we did this, and found a lot of others that did also) 4. Keep someone on deck at all times with 3 to 4 hour watches. (This was common for racers who do a lot of sail adjusting at night, boaters with larger crews, and for boaters who don't want to run the lights all night). For many more primitive boats the tri color or side and stern lights are a heavy percentage of the daily amperage consumption. snip John S/V Pangea |
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ocean crusing & anti collision tactics....
otnmbrd.....3 good points to remember...thanx...Len posted a great
link on they system (ais) http://www.uais.org/87BStory.doc it pretty much explained it all to me...We used the electronic transponders in the planes we fly...I guess it makes since to use a like kind model on the water...But, one does have to participate....The traffic jams are interesting....I was watching asia and the panama canal...Its pretty cool... esp for the price....Talk about arm chair boating........I am learning there is no substition for good watches and running lights...Spronkled w/some electronic back up systems...So far that is..... |
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