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Did you get them? What the hell is a spade anyway? I've looked around and
all I see are cqrs and deltas. I have two CQRs on my sprit and I'd like to
have a choice. I had the pleasure of attending a Nigel Cauler lecture in
September and he mentioned the Spade as worth consideration.
Brad
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There are 2 or 3 of us undercutting West Marine and Defender by
substantial margins. I try to stay at least a few bucks below everyone
else. The problem is that Spade offers very low margins and it cost an
average of $45 an anchor to get them here. This is just a way to feed the
boat kitty for me so I get along pretty well on 20%. The big guys need to
make at least 40% on retail sales. Add to that the general hassle of
dealing long distance to Tunisia and the big guys just jack up the price.

Spade has also come out with a new line called the "Oceane". They sent me
a 4Kg sample that I have been playing with in the pond. It is not quite
as pretty as the original Spade but it seems to be a bit more agressive in
setting and has a good bit more hold. Best of all, because it doesn't
require as much hand labor, it is going to be considerably less expensive.
A 35 lb model rated for 50' or 25,000 lb displacement will be under $300
as opposed to $550 for an S100. I should have a few in by mid summer.

Al wrote:
Buying from companies that specialize in "bearings" also have good prices
for such chain.

Are there getting to be better prices in North Americal for Spade
anchors?

Al

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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In supplying these Spade anchors I regularly get asked for advice on
buying anchor chain. I just finished an e-mail exhcange on the subject
and figured it might be worth while to summarize it here.

As a general rule in any negotiation, you will get the best outcome if
you know in advance who to ask and what to ask for. Anchor chain is
probably one of the finest examples.

If you walk into a marine chandler and ask for "250 feet of 3/8" High
Tensile Chain" you will pay a minimum of $1,100. If you walk into a
local industrial mine and mill supply house and ask for "a full drum of
hot dipped G40" you will pay about $750 for 400 feet of exactly the same
chain.

File that little factoid away for future use.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com







--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com




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Default On buying anchor chain.

Glen writes: "If you walk into a
local industrial mine and mill supply house and ask for "a full drum of

hot dipped G40" you will pay about $750 for 400 feet of exactly the
same
chain. "

Yes and we ALL have a local industrial mine and mill supply
house nearby. Ours is next to Starbucks.
Great advice Glen......

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A Bruce type anchor. A CQR is a plow type.
MMC
"padeen" wrote in message
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Did you get them? What the hell is a spade anyway? I've looked around

and
all I see are cqrs and deltas. I have two CQRs on my sprit and I'd like

to
have a choice. I had the pleasure of attending a Nigel Cauler lecture in
September and he mentioned the Spade as worth consideration.
Brad
Hans 38




"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...
There are 2 or 3 of us undercutting West Marine and Defender by
substantial margins. I try to stay at least a few bucks below everyone
else. The problem is that Spade offers very low margins and it cost an
average of $45 an anchor to get them here. This is just a way to feed

the
boat kitty for me so I get along pretty well on 20%. The big guys need

to
make at least 40% on retail sales. Add to that the general hassle of
dealing long distance to Tunisia and the big guys just jack up the

price.

Spade has also come out with a new line called the "Oceane". They sent

me
a 4Kg sample that I have been playing with in the pond. It is not quite
as pretty as the original Spade but it seems to be a bit more agressive

in
setting and has a good bit more hold. Best of all, because it doesn't
require as much hand labor, it is going to be considerably less

expensive.
A 35 lb model rated for 50' or 25,000 lb displacement will be under $300
as opposed to $550 for an S100. I should have a few in by mid summer.

Al wrote:
Buying from companies that specialize in "bearings" also have good

prices
for such chain.

Are there getting to be better prices in North Americal for Spade
anchors?

Al

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...

In supplying these Spade anchors I regularly get asked for advice on
buying anchor chain. I just finished an e-mail exhcange on the subject
and figured it might be worth while to summarize it here.

As a general rule in any negotiation, you will get the best outcome if
you know in advance who to ask and what to ask for. Anchor chain is
probably one of the finest examples.

If you walk into a marine chandler and ask for "250 feet of 3/8" High
Tensile Chain" you will pay a minimum of $1,100. If you walk into a
local industrial mine and mill supply house and ask for "a full drum of
hot dipped G40" you will pay about $750 for 400 feet of exactly the

same
chain.

File that little factoid away for future use.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or

lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com







--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com






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