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On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:03:13 GMT,
Brian Whatcott wrote:
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 09:55:54 GMT, "Dennis Pogson"
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Courtney Thomas wrote:
How do the forced air units compare with the hot water ?

Thank you,
Courtney

I would guess that pumping hot water at low pressure through radiators and
associated piping requires a lot less power than forced-air blowing. At
least, that is our experience, and the heat is much more evenly distributed.
Also, those areas which didn't need heat were simply turned off, or the
radiator stat was turned low to suit the environment/occupants. The system
is silent, which makes for peace and quiet. Drilling through bulkheads etc.
is a darned sight easier when the holes are merely 1" dia. or less, against
the 3"-4" holes required for air tubing. Quickly drying wet clothing and
washed items is an absolute godsend, and this alone makes up for any
disadvantages of hot water heating.

The heating unit is very quick to achieve operating temperature, and for
cold the system started to be effective in about 15 minutes. If an en-suite
radiator is inadvertently left full on, the heads would become a sauna!

Although diesel-fired, our boat seemed to survive the winter on very little
fuel, admittedly, we had 2 * 60 gallon tanks, but the guage never seemed to
move much over winter.

I am completely sold on this form of heating against the forced-air systems.


Dennis.

Interesting observations. In countries where the need is for heating
only, nobody uses blown air. It's noisy, and its dirty.

But when the need is for cooling, circulating water systems are not so
popular.

As soon as I typed this I realised that when computer suites need
cooling, the system chosen is often circulating water chillers.
So even where cooling/heating systems are needed, there is room for
circulating water, seems to me.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK




Forced air also has some advantages. If your recirculating water heating
system springs a leak, it's a mess, and may even damage other systems.
If the forced air system leaks, then all it takes is a bit of duct tape
to fix, if you want to bother. No need to bleed air out of it either,
although that can also be avoided with a decent design in the water circ
system.

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Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Strip Mining Prevents Forest Fires.
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Jim Richardson wrote:
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:03:13 GMT,
Brian Whatcott wrote:
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 09:55:54 GMT, "Dennis Pogson"
wrote:

Courtney Thomas wrote:
How do the forced air units compare with the hot water ?

Thank you,
Courtney

I would guess that pumping hot water at low pressure through
radiators and associated piping requires a lot less power than
forced-air blowing. At least, that is our experience, and the heat
is much more evenly distributed. Also, those areas which didn't
need heat were simply turned off, or the radiator stat was turned
low to suit the environment/occupants. The system is silent, which
makes for peace and quiet. Drilling through bulkheads etc. is a
darned sight easier when the holes are merely 1" dia. or less,
against the 3"-4" holes required for air tubing. Quickly drying wet
clothing and washed items is an absolute godsend, and this alone
makes up for any disadvantages of hot water heating.

The heating unit is very quick to achieve operating temperature,
and for cold the system started to be effective in about 15
minutes. If an en-suite radiator is inadvertently left full on, the
heads would become a sauna!

Although diesel-fired, our boat seemed to survive the winter on
very little fuel, admittedly, we had 2 * 60 gallon tanks, but the
guage never seemed to move much over winter.

I am completely sold on this form of heating against the forced-air
systems.


Dennis.

Interesting observations. In countries where the need is for heating
only, nobody uses blown air. It's noisy, and its dirty.

But when the need is for cooling, circulating water systems are not
so popular.

As soon as I typed this I realised that when computer suites need
cooling, the system chosen is often circulating water chillers.
So even where cooling/heating systems are needed, there is room for
circulating water, seems to me.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK




Forced air also has some advantages. If your recirculating water
heating system springs a leak, it's a mess, and may even damage other
systems. If the forced air system leaks, then all it takes is a bit
of duct tape to fix, if you want to bother. No need to bleed air out
of it either, although that can also be avoided with a decent design
in the water circ system.


Since all the tubing is in under the sole, a leak (we have never experienced
one!), simply goes into the bilge. The observations re forced air cooling
would only apply if some form of air conditioner was in use, since the air
outside a boat in hot weather may not be all that cooler than the inside
air.

The tubing is unlike any other I have seen on boats, thick-walled and black
in colour, and with patent fittings/joints, which seem to be absolutely
foolproof.

I guess technology moves on, and we all have to try to keep abreast of it.
Last years' fittings are out of date in no time at all.


Dennis.


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In my house boating days I used two oil filled wall mounted
electric heaters with built in fans and they worked great. I
had 60amp service to the boat
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On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:03:13 GMT,
Brian Whatcott wrote:
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 09:55:54 GMT, "Dennis Pogson"
wrote:

Courtney Thomas wrote:
How do the forced air units compare with the hot water ?

Thank you,
Courtney

I would guess that pumping hot water at low pressure

through radiators and
associated piping requires a lot less power than

forced-air blowing. At
least, that is our experience, and the heat is much more

evenly distributed.
Also, those areas which didn't need heat were simply

turned off, or the
radiator stat was turned low to suit the

environment/occupants. The system
is silent, which makes for peace and quiet. Drilling

through bulkheads etc.
is a darned sight easier when the holes are merely 1" dia.

or less, against
the 3"-4" holes required for air tubing. Quickly drying

wet clothing and
washed items is an absolute godsend, and this alone makes

up for any
disadvantages of hot water heating.

The heating unit is very quick to achieve operating

temperature, and for
cold the system started to be effective in about 15

minutes. If an en-suite
radiator is inadvertently left full on, the heads would

become a sauna!

Although diesel-fired, our boat seemed to survive the

winter on very little
fuel, admittedly, we had 2 * 60 gallon tanks, but the

guage never seemed to
move much over winter.

I am completely sold on this form of heating against the

forced-air systems.


Dennis.

Interesting observations. In countries where the need is

for heating
only, nobody uses blown air. It's noisy, and its dirty.

But when the need is for cooling, circulating water

systems are not so
popular.

As soon as I typed this I realised that when computer

suites need
cooling, the system chosen is often circulating water

chillers.
So even where cooling/heating systems are needed, there is

room for
circulating water, seems to me.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK




Forced air also has some advantages. If your recirculating
water heating
system springs a leak, it's a mess, and may even damage
other systems.
If the forced air system leaks, then all it takes is a bit
of duct tape
to fix, if you want to bother. No need to bleed air out of
it either,
although that can also be avoided with a decent design in
the water circ
system.

--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Strip Mining Prevents Forest Fires.


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"Boots" wrote in news:1128978635_132625@spool6-
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In my house boating days I used two oil filled wall mounted
electric heaters with built in fans and they worked great. I
had 60amp service to the boat


How'd ya keep the cord from getting wrapped around the prop??

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