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On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:03:13 GMT,
Brian Whatcott wrote: On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 09:55:54 GMT, "Dennis Pogson" wrote: Courtney Thomas wrote: How do the forced air units compare with the hot water ? Thank you, Courtney I would guess that pumping hot water at low pressure through radiators and associated piping requires a lot less power than forced-air blowing. At least, that is our experience, and the heat is much more evenly distributed. Also, those areas which didn't need heat were simply turned off, or the radiator stat was turned low to suit the environment/occupants. The system is silent, which makes for peace and quiet. Drilling through bulkheads etc. is a darned sight easier when the holes are merely 1" dia. or less, against the 3"-4" holes required for air tubing. Quickly drying wet clothing and washed items is an absolute godsend, and this alone makes up for any disadvantages of hot water heating. The heating unit is very quick to achieve operating temperature, and for cold the system started to be effective in about 15 minutes. If an en-suite radiator is inadvertently left full on, the heads would become a sauna! Although diesel-fired, our boat seemed to survive the winter on very little fuel, admittedly, we had 2 * 60 gallon tanks, but the guage never seemed to move much over winter. I am completely sold on this form of heating against the forced-air systems. Dennis. Interesting observations. In countries where the need is for heating only, nobody uses blown air. It's noisy, and its dirty. But when the need is for cooling, circulating water systems are not so popular. As soon as I typed this I realised that when computer suites need cooling, the system chosen is often circulating water chillers. So even where cooling/heating systems are needed, there is room for circulating water, seems to me. Brian Whatcott Altus OK Forced air also has some advantages. If your recirculating water heating system springs a leak, it's a mess, and may even damage other systems. If the forced air system leaks, then all it takes is a bit of duct tape to fix, if you want to bother. No need to bleed air out of it either, although that can also be avoided with a decent design in the water circ system. -- Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock Strip Mining Prevents Forest Fires. |
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Jim Richardson wrote:
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:03:13 GMT, Brian Whatcott wrote: On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 09:55:54 GMT, "Dennis Pogson" wrote: Courtney Thomas wrote: How do the forced air units compare with the hot water ? Thank you, Courtney I would guess that pumping hot water at low pressure through radiators and associated piping requires a lot less power than forced-air blowing. At least, that is our experience, and the heat is much more evenly distributed. Also, those areas which didn't need heat were simply turned off, or the radiator stat was turned low to suit the environment/occupants. The system is silent, which makes for peace and quiet. Drilling through bulkheads etc. is a darned sight easier when the holes are merely 1" dia. or less, against the 3"-4" holes required for air tubing. Quickly drying wet clothing and washed items is an absolute godsend, and this alone makes up for any disadvantages of hot water heating. The heating unit is very quick to achieve operating temperature, and for cold the system started to be effective in about 15 minutes. If an en-suite radiator is inadvertently left full on, the heads would become a sauna! Although diesel-fired, our boat seemed to survive the winter on very little fuel, admittedly, we had 2 * 60 gallon tanks, but the guage never seemed to move much over winter. I am completely sold on this form of heating against the forced-air systems. Dennis. Interesting observations. In countries where the need is for heating only, nobody uses blown air. It's noisy, and its dirty. But when the need is for cooling, circulating water systems are not so popular. As soon as I typed this I realised that when computer suites need cooling, the system chosen is often circulating water chillers. So even where cooling/heating systems are needed, there is room for circulating water, seems to me. Brian Whatcott Altus OK Forced air also has some advantages. If your recirculating water heating system springs a leak, it's a mess, and may even damage other systems. If the forced air system leaks, then all it takes is a bit of duct tape to fix, if you want to bother. No need to bleed air out of it either, although that can also be avoided with a decent design in the water circ system. Since all the tubing is in under the sole, a leak (we have never experienced one!), simply goes into the bilge. The observations re forced air cooling would only apply if some form of air conditioner was in use, since the air outside a boat in hot weather may not be all that cooler than the inside air. The tubing is unlike any other I have seen on boats, thick-walled and black in colour, and with patent fittings/joints, which seem to be absolutely foolproof. I guess technology moves on, and we all have to try to keep abreast of it. Last years' fittings are out of date in no time at all. Dennis. |
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In my house boating days I used two oil filled wall mounted
electric heaters with built in fans and they worked great. I had 60amp service to the boat "Jim Richardson" wrote in message ... On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:03:13 GMT, Brian Whatcott wrote: On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 09:55:54 GMT, "Dennis Pogson" wrote: Courtney Thomas wrote: How do the forced air units compare with the hot water ? Thank you, Courtney I would guess that pumping hot water at low pressure through radiators and associated piping requires a lot less power than forced-air blowing. At least, that is our experience, and the heat is much more evenly distributed. Also, those areas which didn't need heat were simply turned off, or the radiator stat was turned low to suit the environment/occupants. The system is silent, which makes for peace and quiet. Drilling through bulkheads etc. is a darned sight easier when the holes are merely 1" dia. or less, against the 3"-4" holes required for air tubing. Quickly drying wet clothing and washed items is an absolute godsend, and this alone makes up for any disadvantages of hot water heating. The heating unit is very quick to achieve operating temperature, and for cold the system started to be effective in about 15 minutes. If an en-suite radiator is inadvertently left full on, the heads would become a sauna! Although diesel-fired, our boat seemed to survive the winter on very little fuel, admittedly, we had 2 * 60 gallon tanks, but the guage never seemed to move much over winter. I am completely sold on this form of heating against the forced-air systems. Dennis. Interesting observations. In countries where the need is for heating only, nobody uses blown air. It's noisy, and its dirty. But when the need is for cooling, circulating water systems are not so popular. As soon as I typed this I realised that when computer suites need cooling, the system chosen is often circulating water chillers. So even where cooling/heating systems are needed, there is room for circulating water, seems to me. Brian Whatcott Altus OK Forced air also has some advantages. If your recirculating water heating system springs a leak, it's a mess, and may even damage other systems. If the forced air system leaks, then all it takes is a bit of duct tape to fix, if you want to bother. No need to bleed air out of it either, although that can also be avoided with a decent design in the water circ system. -- Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock Strip Mining Prevents Forest Fires. |
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"Boots" wrote in news:1128978635_132625@spool6-
east.superfeed.net: In my house boating days I used two oil filled wall mounted electric heaters with built in fans and they worked great. I had 60amp service to the boat How'd ya keep the cord from getting wrapped around the prop?? -- Larry |
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