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Rob September 18th 05 12:23 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...
He did IMPLY that all conditions were equal in the case of 1 watt and
the case of 25 watts. Given that, all thats left is the old 1/r^2
which means that 1 watt gives 1/5 the distance of 25 watts.


Not necessarily. With my 2 m amateur radio I could transmit 250 miles on 5
watts from a mountain. Since the main problem is line of sight versus power
having 25 times the power does not mean five times the distance. With 5
watts I can regularly hit some repeaters from 50 miles away. When I go up to
50 watts I only get at best a 5 mile or 10 % increase in range. The square
root of ten is about 3.1 so I should get 150 miles but I never do. There are
more factors than root of power increase as the earth is not flat.

Robert
va3ilw
Midnight Sun.



Jere Lull September 18th 05 08:48 AM

In article ,
Harry Krause wrote:

With my VHF tranmitting at 25 watts, I can easily reach out from one
side of Chesapeake Bay to the other in most places.

At the 1 watt setting, who knows?

For the sake of discussions, let's say on a clear day from my VHF
antenna, which is approximately 14' above the waterline, a 25 watt
transmission reaches someone 12 miles away with a similar antenna height.

Is there a way to figure how far a 1 watt setting will reach with the
same equipment?


It's entirely dependent on the noise on the channel and each boat's
quality of setup. Working with friends on an unusual channel at 1w, we
reliably communicated from HdeG to Georgetown on the Sassafras. They had
a 6db antenna at deck level, ours is 3db 40 feet up. There was some
terrain between us, so we proved that VHF is not strictly line of sight.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

boatingaz September 22nd 05 08:28 PM

Why do you have to interject your political views with every post? The
topic of this group should be neutral to politics in most cases. But
for some reason you feel you must make your opinions known to the world
how you feel about President Bush. Please tone it down or take it to
an appropriate group.
-Rob


Doug Dotson September 22nd 05 10:02 PM


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
With my VHF tranmitting at 25 watts, I can easily reach out from one side
of Chesapeake Bay to the other in most places.

At the 1 watt setting, who knows?

For the sake of discussions, let's say on a clear day from my VHF
antenna, which is approximately 14' above the waterline, a 25 watt
transmission reaches someone 12 miles away with a similar antenna height.

Is there a way to figure how far a 1 watt setting will reach with the
same equipment?


Don't know how to calculate that...but in our VHF course we were advised
to use the 1 watt when in a small harbour or at an anchorage. The idea was
that 25 watt was overkill in this situation and would add to the clutter
for people a fair distance away.


That is actually the law.



Doug Dotson September 22nd 05 10:13 PM


"Jere Lull" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Harry Krause wrote:

With my VHF tranmitting at 25 watts, I can easily reach out from one
side of Chesapeake Bay to the other in most places.

At the 1 watt setting, who knows?

For the sake of discussions, let's say on a clear day from my VHF
antenna, which is approximately 14' above the waterline, a 25 watt
transmission reaches someone 12 miles away with a similar antenna height.

Is there a way to figure how far a 1 watt setting will reach with the
same equipment?


It's entirely dependent on the noise on the channel and each boat's
quality of setup. Working with friends on an unusual channel at 1w, we
reliably communicated from HdeG to Georgetown on the Sassafras. They had
a 6db antenna at deck level, ours is 3db 40 feet up. There was some
terrain between us, so we proved that VHF is not strictly line of sight.


It's been proved many times and has never been considered to be strictly
line of sight.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/




Boots September 28th 05 07:44 PM

With that set up you should get out more than 12 miles???
Capt. Boots
"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote
in message ...

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Harry Krause wrote:

With my VHF tranmitting at 25 watts, I can easily reach

out from one
side of Chesapeake Bay to the other in most places.

At the 1 watt setting, who knows?

For the sake of discussions, let's say on a clear day

from my VHF
antenna, which is approximately 14' above the waterline,

a 25 watt
transmission reaches someone 12 miles away with a similar

antenna height.

Is there a way to figure how far a 1 watt setting will

reach with the
same equipment?


It's entirely dependent on the noise on the channel and

each boat's
quality of setup. Working with friends on an unusual

channel at 1w, we
reliably communicated from HdeG to Georgetown on the

Sassafras. They had
a 6db antenna at deck level, ours is 3db 40 feet up. There

was some
terrain between us, so we proved that VHF is not strictly

line of sight.

It's been proved many times and has never been considered to
be strictly
line of sight.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics)

http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/





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