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Gary G August 29th 05 12:11 AM

San Juan Island Itinerary Suggestions
 
Greetings:

We are going to be crusing the San Juan Islands in Sept in a 32'
dual Diesel cruiser from Anacortes WA. Any suggestions on a suitable
itinerary for this time of year?

We have not been to the San Juans before.

I'm concerned about potable water, pump out stations and docked power.
Since we are likely on the off-season, many of the normal high season
feature will not be present. If anyone has been in this area around
the same time, personal feedback is appreciated.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Jim Donohue August 29th 05 02:49 AM

Don't be. This is very civilized cruising. As long as you are smart enough
not to run into anything hard there really is no way to screw up in the San
Juans.

Somebody gets unhappy a Port is a few hours away.

You are not in the Aleutians.

For $200 you can probably get anything you want delievered wherever in the
San Juans.

The San Juans run almost year round if the weather is good.

Jim Donohue


"Gary G" see.signature@bottom wrote in message
...
Greetings:

We are going to be crusing the San Juan Islands in Sept in a 32'
dual Diesel cruiser from Anacortes WA. Any suggestions on a suitable
itinerary for this time of year?

We have not been to the San Juans before.

I'm concerned about potable water, pump out stations and docked power.
Since we are likely on the off-season, many of the normal high season
feature will not be present. If anyone has been in this area around
the same time, personal feedback is appreciated.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com




Gary G August 29th 05 03:28 AM

On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:49:00 -0700, "Jim Donohue"
wrote:

Don't be. This is very civilized cruising. As long as you are smart enough
not to run into anything hard there really is no way to screw up in the San
Juans.

Somebody gets unhappy a Port is a few hours away.

You are not in the Aleutians.

For $200 you can probably get anything you want delievered wherever in the
San Juans.

The San Juans run almost year round if the weather is good.

Jim Donohue


Thanks for the reply.

I'm looking at Waggoner and see the limitations of hanging out
during the day versus overnight. It is difficult to sort out...
Not having been there. The reefs and obstacles are noted and will
be heeded. What bothers me most is finding places to replenish
water and to dump holding tanks. I figure that for the whole
seven days, I will not need Deisel fuel. Water is a key issue,
as I see it. So I am focused on how to deal with new water and
"old water."

supposedly, mid-Sept is the end of the normal season. So shore
services may be iffy. We'll see.

Thanks.



Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Jack Dale August 29th 05 05:01 AM

On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:28:55 -0700, Gary G see.signature@bottom
wrote:

Water is a key issue,
as I see it. So I am focused on how to deal with new water and
"old water."



Water is available at

Friday Harbor
Roche Harbor
Rosario Resort
Deer Harbor
West Sound Marina
Islands Marine Center (Fisherman Bay)

All potable.

Pump outs at most of these.

Jack

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johnhh August 29th 05 09:38 AM

There will be no difference in the availability of water and pumpouts in
Sept than in peak times. In fact, due to decreased traffic, it will be more
accesible. Sept. is one of the best months for cruising the San Juans since
the crowds are substantially less and the weather still fairly good.

"Gary G" see.signature@bottom wrote in message
...
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:49:00 -0700, "Jim Donohue"
wrote:

Don't be. This is very civilized cruising. As long as you are smart
enough
not to run into anything hard there really is no way to screw up in the
San
Juans.

Somebody gets unhappy a Port is a few hours away.

You are not in the Aleutians.

For $200 you can probably get anything you want delievered wherever in
the
San Juans.

The San Juans run almost year round if the weather is good.

Jim Donohue


Thanks for the reply.

I'm looking at Waggoner and see the limitations of hanging out
during the day versus overnight. It is difficult to sort out...
Not having been there. The reefs and obstacles are noted and will
be heeded. What bothers me most is finding places to replenish
water and to dump holding tanks. I figure that for the whole
seven days, I will not need Deisel fuel. Water is a key issue,
as I see it. So I am focused on how to deal with new water and
"old water."

supposedly, mid-Sept is the end of the normal season. So shore
services may be iffy. We'll see.

Thanks.



Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com




Bryan August 29th 05 04:30 PM


supposedly, mid-Sept is the end of the normal season. So shore
services may be iffy. We'll see.

Thanks.



Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com


Bellingham, Wash. or Sidney, BC are only hours away. There's access both
places to whatever year round. Relax bro'!

R.W. Behan August 30th 05 11:20 PM

Hey, Gary, we live here (on Fisherman Bay, Lopez Island) and let me say the
advice provided above is spot-on. If you can read charts and your depth
sounder, you have nothing to worry about. Water, pumpouts, food, diesel,
restaurants, even good booze is available in many, almost intervisible
locations and within walking distance. Y'all come, and enjoy yerse'f,
y'hear?

Dick Behan
LNVT "Annie"


"Gary G" see.signature@bottom wrote in message
...
Greetings:

We are going to be crusing the San Juan Islands in Sept in a 32'
dual Diesel cruiser from Anacortes WA. Any suggestions on a suitable
itinerary for this time of year?

We have not been to the San Juans before.

I'm concerned about potable water, pump out stations and docked power.
Since we are likely on the off-season, many of the normal high season
feature will not be present. If anyone has been in this area around
the same time, personal feedback is appreciated.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com




Glen \Wiley\ Wilson August 31st 05 12:25 AM

On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:11:20 -0700, Gary G see.signature@bottom
wrote:

Greetings:

We are going to be crusing the San Juan Islands in Sept in a 32'
dual Diesel cruiser from Anacortes WA. Any suggestions on a suitable
itinerary for this time of year?

We have not been to the San Juans before.

I'm concerned about potable water, pump out stations and docked power.
Since we are likely on the off-season, many of the normal high season
feature will not be present. If anyone has been in this area around
the same time, personal feedback is appreciated.


Just a thought, you may want to consider doing what we did on my trip
there, about this time of year. We spent a day riding the ferries and
doing the tourist things onshore (I enjoyed Orcas Island the most,
which is not to denigrate the others) with no cares other than
catching the next ferry. If you plan it right you can get a lot done
in a day. The ferry schedules do require a bit of study though. Then
we took to the water for the rest of the week with no particular
pressure to be anywhere or do anything.

Have a good trip. Wish I was going.

Glen
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Gary G August 31st 05 02:08 AM

We are set to have a good time in the San Juans. We are on a
Meridian 32' with all amenities. It has all sorts of
the latest features and Raymarine GPS/Radar/Mapping, etc.

I'm used to flying at 275K, so cruising at 10K at surface will
be a new experience. We should have everything necessary for
a good time. Looking at the nav charts, the SJ Islands are only
about 15nm apart. However, this area encompases multiple
cool places. So I need to figure out which places are cool
and those are not cool relative to safe harbor.

My concern is potable water and pump out. This was answered
already. We are advised to fill and dump every other day.
We can do that.

This will be our first encounter in the San Juans and looks
to be the beginning of more adventures in this marvelous area.

Oh...we have a crab pot and we will use it!!

gary g.




On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:20:45 -0700, "R.W. Behan"
wrote:

Hey, Gary, we live here (on Fisherman Bay, Lopez Island) and let me say the
advice provided above is spot-on. If you can read charts and your depth
sounder, you have nothing to worry about. Water, pumpouts, food, diesel,
restaurants, even good booze is available in many, almost intervisible
locations and within walking distance. Y'all come, and enjoy yerse'f,
y'hear?

Dick Behan
LNVT "Annie"


"Gary G" see.signature@bottom wrote in message
.. .
Greetings:

We are going to be crusing the San Juan Islands in Sept in a 32'
dual Diesel cruiser from Anacortes WA. Any suggestions on a suitable
itinerary for this time of year?

We have not been to the San Juans before.

I'm concerned about potable water, pump out stations and docked power.
Since we are likely on the off-season, many of the normal high season
feature will not be present. If anyone has been in this area around
the same time, personal feedback is appreciated.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com



Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Gary G September 10th 05 04:36 AM

On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:11:20 -0700, Gary G see.signature@bottom
wrote:

Greetings:

We are going to be crusing the San Juan Islands in Sept in a 32'
dual Diesel cruiser from Anacortes WA. Any suggestions on a suitable
itinerary for this time of year?

We have not been to the San Juans before.

I'm concerned about potable water, pump out stations and docked power.
Since we are likely on the off-season, many of the normal high season
feature will not be present. If anyone has been in this area around
the same time, personal feedback is appreciated.



Wow!! We just returned from a 7 day charter from Ship Harbor Yachts
in Anacortes Skyline marina on their Meridian Infinity II 34'. This
was our first time with a twin screw boat. We did one day (stressful)
for training and then less than a half day to finish up... we felt
confident about going it alone. We went to almost all of the San
Juan Islands' points. Roche Harbor is excellent. Friday Harbor was
good. I bought a T shirt in Roche Harbor. Unfortunately, it got
Diesel on it at Skyline Marina. Oh well, it is broken in.

Anyway, this is a marvelous area to cruise. We did not go to Canada
since we were not familiar with the customs thing. Next time, we
will likely go there. I heard of folks piled up waiting to get
through customs. What are they doing? (customs). What is the big
deal? I read of Canadian booze in Wagoners about WA/CAN booze. What
is the difference? Obviously it is a revenue issue. We bring booze
from CA. So, how does this fit in? Is booze wine, beer or high
octane spirits or all of the above? Strange. CA is just anything
goes.

We're thinking that a 39' Carver would be a very nice boat for the
area. The head is a difficult component. Having a VacuFlush system
might fix this. Our standard Meridian unit was clogged the first
day out and delayed our departure. No problem since I needed
training anyway--not on the head but on the boat!




Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Louise September 11th 05 08:36 PM

On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:36:42 -0700, Gary G see.signature@bottom
wrote:
Anyway, this is a marvelous area to cruise. We did not go to Canada
since we were not familiar with the customs thing. Next time, we
will likely go there.


Yes, it is important to study up on local customs before you visit
foreign ports, so you don't look foolish when you get there. Or did
you mean Customs and Immigration?

I heard of folks piled up waiting to get
through customs. What are they doing? (customs). What is the big
deal? I read of Canadian booze in Wagoners about WA/CAN booze. What
is the difference? Obviously it is a revenue issue. We bring booze
from CA. So, how does this fit in? Is booze wine, beer or high
octane spirits or all of the above? Strange. CA is just anything
goes.


Hardly strange at all, unless you haven't travelled out of your
country before. Visitors to Canada are permitted to bring a small
quantity of liquor (1.14 L of spirits, a bottle of wine, or a case of
beer) for personal use, or more if they're willing to pay duty.
Visitors to the USA are permitted to bring a small quantity of liquor
(1L of spirits) for personal use, or more if they're willing to pay
duty. The websites of each jurisdiction explain the details.

Since I am Canadian and our boat is a registered Canadian vessel, I
won't attempt to explain the other details of visiting Canada by
pleasure vessel. Perhaps someone else on your side of the border
could explain.

Louise

Gary G September 15th 05 02:53 AM

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 05:53:26 GMT, ahoy wrote:

Our local (us) power squadron told us there is now a $150 VHF licience
fee we have to pay if we still want to cruise in Canada. Is this
really being enforced when you check in at the customs dock?



No idea about this. I have a Restricted License based on
flying. I believe that this is the same license needed
for marine. So I am OK.

I have no experience with Canada. Until some future
time, I will avoid Canada destinations due to customs
hassles between Canada and US.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Gary G September 15th 05 02:58 AM

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:36:03 -0400, Louise
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:36:42 -0700, Gary G see.signature@bottom
wrote:
Anyway, this is a marvelous area to cruise. We did not go to Canada
since we were not familiar with the customs thing. Next time, we
will likely go there.


Yes, it is important to study up on local customs before you visit
foreign ports, so you don't look foolish when you get there. Or did
you mean Customs and Immigration?


I meant Customs and Immigration.


I heard of folks piled up waiting to get
through customs. What are they doing? (customs). What is the big
deal? I read of Canadian booze in Wagoners about WA/CAN booze. What
is the difference? Obviously it is a revenue issue. We bring booze
from CA. So, how does this fit in? Is booze wine, beer or high
octane spirits or all of the above? Strange. CA is just anything
goes.


Hardly strange at all, unless you haven't travelled out of your
country before. Visitors to Canada are permitted to bring a small
quantity of liquor (1.14 L of spirits, a bottle of wine, or a case of
beer) for personal use, or more if they're willing to pay duty.
Visitors to the USA are permitted to bring a small quantity of liquor
(1L of spirits) for personal use, or more if they're willing to pay
duty. The websites of each jurisdiction explain the details.


Well, I travel to UK, EU and other places and have no problem with
booze. It seems that Canada makes a big deal about this. Why?
What is the difference between CA booze and WA booze and Canada booze?
Ahhhh....taxes. So, how to tell the difference? Is there some
certificate of compliance stuck to a bottle? Dumb.

Since I am Canadian and our boat is a registered Canadian vessel, I
won't attempt to explain the other details of visiting Canada by
pleasure vessel. Perhaps someone else on your side of the border
could explain.

Louise


By all means, let me know. We likely will go to Canada destinations
in the future. right now, I avoid it. Booze unfriendly and gun
unfriendly. WA is a better place, IMO.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Evan Gatehouse September 15th 05 07:12 AM

ahoy wrote:
Our local (us) power squadron told us there is now a $150 VHF licience
fee we have to pay if we still want to cruise in Canada. Is this
really being enforced when you check in at the customs dock?


Are you kidding? In Canada?

O.k. seriously we don't have enough money to fund a decent
Coast Guard and the customs guys don't care about VHF
licenses. They want to know if you have a ton of alcohol or
ciggies but that's about it.

Evan Gatehouse



Don White September 15th 05 02:43 PM

Gary G wrote:


By all means, let me know. We likely will go to Canada destinations
in the future. right now, I avoid it. Booze unfriendly and gun
unfriendly. WA is a better place, IMO.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com



If you're that hung up on guns & booze, Canada probably isn't the best
place for you.

Don White September 15th 05 02:47 PM

Evan Gatehouse wrote:
ahoy wrote:

Our local (us) power squadron told us there is now a $150 VHF licience
fee we have to pay if we still want to cruise in Canada. Is this
really being enforced when you check in at the customs dock?



Are you kidding? In Canada?

O.k. seriously we don't have enough money to fund a decent Coast Guard
and the customs guys don't care about VHF licenses. They want to know
if you have a ton of alcohol or ciggies but that's about it.

Evan Gatehouse


I have a 'Restricted Radio Operators License'issued in Nova Scotia. I
may have paid a nomimal fee to get it (either $ 10.00 or $ 20.00) but
it's lifetime with no annual fee.
Check closer to see who is actually getting this $ 150.00. Is it the US
govt??

Gary G September 16th 05 12:20 AM

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:43:06 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Gary G wrote:


By all means, let me know. We likely will go to Canada destinations
in the future. right now, I avoid it. Booze unfriendly and gun
unfriendly. WA is a better place, IMO.




If you're that hung up on guns & booze, Canada probably isn't the best
place for you.


No, it is not. It is not a hang up. It is politics and taxes and
reduction of freedom. Please...no flame wars. We have our own
situations here in CA.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

johnhh September 16th 05 12:30 AM

Leave your guns, you won't need them. Buy your booze in Canada and, if you
have no felony convictions, customs is not a problem.

"Gary G" see.signature@bottom wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:43:06 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Gary G wrote:


By all means, let me know. We likely will go to Canada destinations
in the future. right now, I avoid it. Booze unfriendly and gun
unfriendly. WA is a better place, IMO.




If you're that hung up on guns & booze, Canada probably isn't the best
place for you.


No, it is not. It is not a hang up. It is politics and taxes and
reduction of freedom. Please...no flame wars. We have our own
situations here in CA.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com




Peter Bennett September 16th 05 02:28 AM

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:53:21 -0700, Gary G see.signature@bottom
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 05:53:26 GMT, ahoy wrote:

Our local (us) power squadron told us there is now a $150 VHF licience
fee we have to pay if we still want to cruise in Canada. Is this
really being enforced when you check in at the customs dock?



No idea about this. I have a Restricted License based on
flying. I believe that this is the same license needed
for marine. So I am OK.


I suspect that is what we in Canada would call an "Operator
Certificate" - here the aeronautical and marine operators certificates
are different - aviators don't need to know about channel 16, and some
other marine-specific things.

The $150 is the US FCC fee for a ship station licence. US pleasure
craft operating in the US are exempt from station licencing, but do
require a station licence when operating in another country (not just
in Canada).



I have no experience with Canada. Until some future
time, I will avoid Canada destinations due to customs
hassles between Canada and US.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com


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Gary G September 16th 05 03:09 AM

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:30:10 -0700, "johnhh"
wrote:

Leave your guns, you won't need them. Buy your booze in Canada and, if you
have no felony convictions, customs is not a problem.


I tend to strongly agree. I was armed but never needed it. Very
nice. It is a whole new world there. Quite refreshing. I just don't
get the booze thing--difference between WA and Canada.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Don White September 16th 05 03:07 PM

Gary G wrote:


I tend to strongly agree. I was armed but never needed it. Very
nice. It is a whole new world there. Quite refreshing. I just don't
get the booze thing--difference between WA and Canada.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com


I think it's an attempt to control smuggling. In the past, booze &
cigarettes were cheaper stateside so people would go down and buy as
much as they could carry....for their own comsumption or for re-sale.
I live in one of the three provinces in Canada that doesn't border the
states so that may not be as much a problem here.

Evan Gatehouse September 16th 05 09:20 PM

Gary G wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:30:10 -0700, "johnhh"
wrote:


Leave your guns, you won't need them. Buy your booze in Canada and, if you
have no felony convictions, customs is not a problem.



I tend to strongly agree. I was armed but never needed it. Very
nice. It is a whole new world there. Quite refreshing. I just don't
get the booze thing--difference between WA and Canada.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com


It's a DIFFERENT country. It has different laws.

If you enter the US from Canada there are also laws on how
much alchol you may enter with - but because Canadian booze
is more expensive nobody does it :)

Evan Gatehouse

Gary G September 16th 05 11:43 PM

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:20:43 -0700, Evan Gatehouse
wrote:


It's a DIFFERENT country. It has different laws.

If you enter the US from Canada there are also laws on how
much alchol you may enter with - but because Canadian booze
is more expensive nobody does it :)

Evan Gatehouse


Right. So it is not WA vs. Canada, it is USA vs. Canada.
So my CA booze is the same as WA. What is odd is that WA
only sells hard liquor at "state stores." I suppose that
the net result is that any liquor from the US (any state)
into Canada falls under the same draconian rules as WA
origination.

We were in WA over Labor Day weekend and fortunately brought
our favorite Barbados rum or we would have been on beer and
wine only. Strange.

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

beldar September 18th 05 03:54 AM

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:58:13 +0000, Gary G wrote:

By all means, let me know. We likely will go to Canada destinations in
the future. right now, I avoid it. Booze unfriendly and gun
unfriendly. WA is a better place, IMO.


You know, when I think about the good times, I naturally think about how
well booze and guns go together! Putz! I think you should stay right
where you are at home in the good old USA. It's too boring up here.

Gary G September 18th 05 04:00 AM

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:54:26 -0400, "beldar"
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:58:13 +0000, Gary G wrote:

By all means, let me know. We likely will go to Canada destinations in
the future. right now, I avoid it. Booze unfriendly and gun
unfriendly. WA is a better place, IMO.


You know, when I think about the good times, I naturally think about how
well booze and guns go together! Putz! I think you should stay right
where you are at home in the good old USA. It's too boring up here.



Booze and guns are separate issues. I have resolved the gun issue.
WA and Canada are no problem for attack. The booze remains a issue.

Please see my new posting to deal with this topic.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Don White September 18th 05 04:08 AM

Gary G wrote:


Booze and guns are separate issues. I have resolved the gun issue.
WA and Canada are no problem for attack. The booze remains a issue.

Please see my new posting to deal with this topic.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com



Here on the Atlantic side of Canada you very seldom hear of a problem.
When you do, it's usually some American who tries to hide his shootin'
iron and doesn't declare it crossing the border into Canada. If caught
they lose the gun and pay a $ 1K fine.
Trust me...if you sailed here you would not need the gun although the
booze might come in handy.

Gary G September 18th 05 04:28 AM

On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:08:22 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Gary G wrote:


Booze and guns are separate issues. I have resolved the gun issue.
WA and Canada are no problem for attack. The booze remains a issue.

Please see my new posting to deal with this topic.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com



Here on the Atlantic side of Canada you very seldom hear of a problem.
When you do, it's usually some American who tries to hide his shootin'
iron and doesn't declare it crossing the border into Canada. If caught
they lose the gun and pay a $ 1K fine.
Trust me...if you sailed here you would not need the gun although the
booze might come in handy.


I'm on the Western side. I think the same applies. Canada law says
no guns. OK. Even WA, which is a shall issue state is not a problem.

So now, my big problem is 1.15L of booze. Geeze...

Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Gary G September 28th 05 07:42 AM

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:28:00 -0700, Gary G see.signature@bottom
wrote:


We did NW WA and had a great time. We visited darn near all of the
San Juan Islands. Roche Harbor was fabulous and Friday Harbor was
very nice. Deer Harbor was super friendly. Overall, a great place to
visit.

Our next journey is into Canada. This will be interesting.

Instead of a 34' Meridian we will take a 42 Ocean Alexander. The
extran room is nice.

Then we have to deal with the immigration imbrogilo.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Ryk September 28th 05 05:52 PM

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:42:08 -0700, Gary G see.signature@bottom
wrote:

Then we have to deal with the immigration imbrogilo.


I don't think you'll find it a big deal. Unless you decide to make it
into one.

Don't bring firearms.

Don't bring alcohol or tobacco beyond normal ship's stores.

Call the toll free customs number posted at most points of entry and
report your arrival. Use a land line rather than a cell phone and keep
everybody on the boat until you are cleared.

You may find returning to the US rather more complicated because of
the separation of the INS and customs functions, and the shifting
rules.

Ryk

Gary G September 28th 05 10:14 PM

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:52:51 -0400, Ryk
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:42:08 -0700, Gary G see.signature@bottom
wrote:

Then we have to deal with the immigration imbrogilo.


I don't think you'll find it a big deal. Unless you decide to make it
into one.

Don't bring firearms.

Don't bring alcohol or tobacco beyond normal ship's stores.

Call the toll free customs number posted at most points of entry and
report your arrival. Use a land line rather than a cell phone and keep
everybody on the boat until you are cleared.

You may find returning to the US rather more complicated because of
the separation of the INS and customs functions, and the shifting
rules.

Ryk


I know about the gun issue. No problem. I've seen reference to the
I-68 which no one seems to officially use. There is CANPASS and a PIN
thing. I will have to sort these out. 2005 Waggoner is helpful in
this regard. We will be likely going back in 2006 around beginning of
September--a very nice time.

The alcohol still puzzles me. The limit is around 1.1L of booze, xx L
of beer and (I think or) yy L wine per person. What does this mean?
Is this a duty-free limit? If in total there is more booze than
allowed, is it a matter of paying some tax or what? Same for wine and
beer. Then, the same question when coming back to US port. What
happens if there is say twice the "allowed" amount on board?

We have zero cigs.


Gary Gaugler, Ph.D.
Microtechnics, Inc.
Granite Bay, CA 95746
916.791.8191
gary@microtechnics dot com

Ryk September 29th 05 02:14 PM

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:14:38 -0700, Gary G see.signature@bottom
wrote:

I know about the gun issue. No problem. I've seen reference to the
I-68 which no one seems to officially use.


The I-68 is for US INS and (re)entering the US. It has nothing to do
with entering Canada.

There is CANPASS and a PIN
thing. I will have to sort these out.


CANPASS is a way of pre-registering so that you can clear faster. Not
required, and probably not worth the effort unless you are going back
and forth regularly.

The alcohol still puzzles me. The limit is around 1.1L of booze, xx L
of beer and (I think or) yy L wine per person. What does this mean?
Is this a duty-free limit? If in total there is more booze than
allowed, is it a matter of paying some tax or what? Same for wine and
beer. Then, the same question when coming back to US port. What
happens if there is say twice the "allowed" amount on board?


As I understand it, appropriate "ship's stores" can go back and forth
across the border, possibly with duty applicable -- probably not worth
the hassle unless there's something you can't get in Canada. When
entering the US by boat, I have never found customs to be interested
in alcohol. When returning to Canada, customs has held me to limits on
alcohol acquired in the US, duty free or otherwise.

The easy way is to stay within the limits for the border crossing,
then hit the liquor store on the Canadian side. Prices are similar on
the good stuff, but you won't find cheap plastic jugs of
rum/vodka/gin, like in a US discount liquor store.

Ryk

prodigal1 September 30th 05 01:02 AM

Ryk wrote:
but you won't find cheap plastic jugs of
rum/vodka/gin, like in a US discount liquor store.


why would anyone intentionally drink that sh*t anyway?


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