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SISC August 4th 05 03:23 AM

Safety of boats ?
 
Where could someone go with a good idea about how to prevent a floating but
damaged sinking boat from floundering?
This is not a nut case idea; I am an engineer und should know better.
Done some checking with patent office and not even similar idea has been
filed.
I went through an American and Canadian patent process and hold two; but
they cost me more than what I got back!
I have not disclosed to anyone on this idea however. .
Any interested ones out there. Like Steve Callahan
Thanks Mike S. Dipl.Ing.FH



[email protected] August 4th 05 04:34 AM

File a provisional patent application (costs $75 if you do it
yourself). My lawyer charges me about $750 when he does it and I know
I am getting soaked but thats business.
Next, find a salvage company that might be interested and have them
sign a Non-disclosure agreement. Most legit companies have no probs
with such NDA. Ascertain the level of interest, if it is real, go for
the patent along with its costs (probably about $8000).

Good Luck


Larry August 4th 05 01:42 PM

"SISC" wrote in
:

Where could someone go with a good idea about how to prevent a
floating but damaged sinking boat from floundering?
This is not a nut case idea; I am an engineer und should know better.
Done some checking with patent office and not even similar idea has
been filed.
I went through an American and Canadian patent process and hold two;
but they cost me more than what I got back!
I have not disclosed to anyone on this idea however. .
Any interested ones out there. Like Steve Callahan
Thanks Mike S. Dipl.Ing.FH




Hope this isn't an airbag or pingpong ball idea. They're already patented.

--
Larry

rhys August 8th 05 07:59 PM

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:23:30 GMT, "SISC" wrote:

Where could someone go with a good idea about how to prevent a floating but
damaged sinking boat from floundering?


It's "foundering", by the way.

Many European yachts feature this by filling voids with floatation
foam. Others feature watertight compartments and "crash zones", like
in the circumnavigation races.

The builder that comes to mind is ETAP, which is Belgian, I think.
They make several ocean-going, "unsinkable" yachts. Not great on
storage, but will go low and no lower, even if split in half, I am led
to believe.

R.

SISC August 9th 05 10:20 PM

Thanks for messages .
Still searching on airbags and such.
Will post again later, but any lead, hint link is appreciated.

Thanks Mike


"SISC" wrote in message
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Where could someone go with a good idea about how to prevent a floating
but damaged sinking boat from floundering?
This is not a nut case idea; I am an engineer und should know better.
Done some checking with patent office and not even similar idea has been
filed.
I went through an American and Canadian patent process and hold two; but
they cost me more than what I got back!
I have not disclosed to anyone on this idea however. .
Any interested ones out there. Like Steve Callahan
Thanks Mike S. Dipl.Ing.FH




Larry August 10th 05 12:58 AM

"SISC" wrote in news:A69Ke.72553$Ph4.2259242@ursa-
nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:

Thanks for messages .
Still searching on airbags and such.
Will post again later, but any lead, hint link is appreciated.

Thanks Mike


I've never figured out why yachts don't HAVE airbags that deploy
automatically and fill the cabin from the gas canisters when the switch on
the inside of the cabin overhead touches seawater.....making them
unsinkable!

"Stay with the boat", they always tell you. "Stay with the boat".

--
Larry

SISC August 10th 05 01:56 AM

I can produce function prototype,but need partner mike
"Larry" wrote in message
...
"SISC" wrote in news:A69Ke.72553$Ph4.2259242@ursa-
nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:

Thanks for messages .
Still searching on airbags and such.
Will post again later, but any lead, hint link is appreciated.

Thanks Mike


I've never figured out why yachts don't HAVE airbags that deploy
automatically and fill the cabin from the gas canisters when the switch on
the inside of the cabin overhead touches seawater.....making them
unsinkable!

"Stay with the boat", they always tell you. "Stay with the boat".

--
Larry




Jere Lull August 10th 05 02:49 AM

In article , Larry
wrote:

I've never figured out why yachts don't HAVE airbags that deploy
automatically and fill the cabin from the gas canisters when the
switch on the inside of the cabin overhead touches
seawater.....making them unsinkable!


There was such a company, but they've gone belly up. Don't know why, but
suspect that most boats that would have such a system also have a
liferaft of appropriate size. Some decks aren't very well attached to
the hull.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
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DSK August 10th 05 03:06 AM

I've never figured out why yachts don't HAVE airbags that deploy
automatically and fill the cabin from the gas canisters when the switch on
the inside of the cabin overhead touches seawater.....making them
unsinkable!



SISC wrote:
I can produce function prototype,but need partner


It's already been done. Problem: sailors are cheapskates and would
rather take the risk of sinking than pay for the system.

Do a google search for "Yachtsaver"... went bankrupt last year IIRC.

There are also a number of yachts built with positive flotation, ETAP &
Sadler notably. IMHO it would not be unreasonable to install positive
flotation on many small to medium size sailboats. It'd be some work, and
cost something, so maybe that's why nobody actually does it.

"The reason worry kills more people than work is that more people do it."

DSK


[email protected] August 13th 05 05:09 AM

I also thought about this years ago. mostly for a masthead float for a
trimaran. I considered using calcium carbide that reacts with water to
produce LOTS of acetylene gas that would seriously inflate some kind of
bag. Of course acetylene can be explosive with a spark but you are
sinking anyway....... The calcium carbide would be fairly easy to
store as it comes as rock-like chunks but produces copious volumes of
gas.

I have also considerd adding foam floatation to my boat. She has many
little areas that are never used for anything whose total volume might
be enough.



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