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Just getting started...boat recommendation?
I am just beginning to explore getting into cruising, am newly retired, and
want to cruise on the waterways of the Pacific Northwest doing regular overnight cruises for two people and occasionally 4. I have a boat budget of about $50,000. Any recommendations as the best boat to buy would be appreciated. I am open to new or used and will moor the boat at my local marina. From the reading I have done so far I know I want a craft that is first seaworthy, then reliable, and reasonably comfortable. Thanks very much. H. David |
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H. David wrote: I am just beginning to explore getting into cruising, am newly retired, and want to cruise on the waterways of the Pacific Northwest doing regular overnight cruises for two people and occasionally 4. I have a boat budget of about $50,000. Any recommendations as the best boat to buy would be appreciated. I am open to new or used and will moor the boat at my local marina. From the reading I have done so far I know I want a craft that is first seaworthy, then reliable, and reasonably comfortable. Thanks very much. How much experience do you have with sailing (I'm assuming) and/or cruising? There are lots of good quality boats out there for well under $50K. Mono or multi interest? How much time do you want to spend fixing or updating equipment/sails? Just a few questions.... :-) -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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If the total budget is $50K, I'd put aside $15K of that and begin by
assuming $35K ... or so ... to pay for the boat itself (assuming you're not financing). "H. David" wrote in message ... I am just beginning to explore getting into cruising, I have a boat budget of about $50,000. |
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Sorry, I meant power boating and I have no experience either with power or
sailing. "H. David" wrote in message ... I am just beginning to explore getting into cruising, am newly retired, and want to cruise on the waterways of the Pacific Northwest doing regular overnight cruises for two people and occasionally 4. I have a boat budget of about $50,000. Any recommendations as the best boat to buy would be appreciated. I am open to new or used and will moor the boat at my local marina. From the reading I have done so far I know I want a craft that is first seaworthy, then reliable, and reasonably comfortable. Thanks very much. H. David |
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Sail or motor? Overnite from where to where? Seaworthy as?
Lots of different water in the PNW. Gordon "H. David" wrote in message ... I am just beginning to explore getting into cruising, am newly retired, and want to cruise on the waterways of the Pacific Northwest doing regular overnight cruises for two people and occasionally 4. I have a boat budget of about $50,000. Any recommendations as the best boat to buy would be appreciated. I am open to new or used and will moor the boat at my local marina. From the reading I have done so far I know I want a craft that is first seaworthy, then reliable, and reasonably comfortable. Thanks very much. H. David |
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Thanks for the reply. To answer your questions, Motor; overnight from Port
Ludlow to destinations reachable within a day of motoring; and relatively seaworthy for the class of boats she is in. "Gordon" wrote in message ... Sail or motor? Overnite from where to where? Seaworthy as? Lots of different water in the PNW. Gordon "H. David" wrote in message ... I am just beginning to explore getting into cruising, am newly retired, and want to cruise on the waterways of the Pacific Northwest doing regular overnight cruises for two people and occasionally 4. I have a boat budget of about $50,000. Any recommendations as the best boat to buy would be appreciated. I am open to new or used and will moor the boat at my local marina. From the reading I have done so far I know I want a craft that is first seaworthy, then reliable, and reasonably comfortable. Thanks very much. H. David |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:26:25 -0700, "H. David"
wrote: I am just beginning to explore getting into cruising, am newly retired, and want to cruise on the waterways of the Pacific Northwest doing regular overnight cruises for two people and occasionally 4. I have a boat budget of about $50,000. Any recommendations as the best boat to buy would be appreciated. I am open to new or used and will moor the boat at my local marina. From the reading I have done so far I know I want a craft that is first seaworthy, then reliable, and reasonably comfortable. Thanks very much. H. David You said in a later post that you are looking for a power boat. I am thinking you will be boating in Puget Sound and maybe north into Canada. It is all pretty protected. Most boats are seaworthy enough for the Sound. Find a boat large enough to be comfortable. The larger the boat, the greater the cost; for mooring fee, for fuel, for haul-outs. Other things to consider: Gasoline is explosive and I consider it dangerous. Fire is the greatest danger. As a blue-water cruiser, I would not buy a boat with a gasoline engine. My 85 hp diesel engine pushes my 16 ton hull at 6.5 knots burning about 1.5 gallons per hour. At 5 knots, it uses about 1 gallon per hour. I know twin-engine skippers that burn 20 gallons per hour or more. What can you afford? If you want to speed around, get a ridged-bottom inflatable with a 20 hp outboard for a tender (dingy). Or carry a small Boston Whaler with an outboard. Think of your ground tackle (anchor, anchor rode, cleats, mooring lines) as the most important system. It is second to the hull in importance. Ground tackle keeps you safe and lets you sleep at night. Always use oversized anchor with chain. I use an all-chain rode and a 66 pound Bruce anchor. Install a good electric windlass and use a big anchor. When you install the windlass, replace all your cleats with bigger cleats. In a storm, you will be happy you did. Take the Coast Guard Auxillary course on boating safety. You'll learn about lights, rules of the road, navigation, locking through to Lake Union, and general safety. Go to marinas. Ask another boat owner to walk through with you. Look at the boats and think about what you want. Talk to people that own boats and ask them what they like and don't like. You might be surprised that glass boats have less maintenance than steel. learn about zinc, bottom paint, marine heads, shorepower, knots, et c. Go to boat shows. Walk onto sailboats as well as power boats. If I were staying on Puget Sound, I would probably have a power boat. You will get some ideas from every boat you see. There are lots and lots of boats in your price range. Take a little time. If your budget is really $50k, think more like 30k for a good, used boat and 10k to make it how you want it. In the end, the repairs / refits will cost twice as much as you plan. |
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Skipper wrote in
: Go to marinas. Ask another boat owner to walk through with you. Look at the boats and think about what you want. Talk to people that own boats and ask them what they like and don't like. You might be surprised that glass boats have less maintenance than steel. learn about zinc, bottom paint, marine heads, shorepower, knots, et c. Go to boat shows. Walk onto sailboats as well as power boats. If I were staying on Puget Sound, I would probably have a power boat. You will get some ideas from every boat you see. There are lots and lots of boats in your price range. Take a little time. Excellent advise. You need to hang out with the boaters and find out what it REALLY takes to buy and keep the thing afloat. B-O-A-T means Bring Out Another Thousand. That $50K is a drop in the bucket as to what it really costs. Get acquainted with the guys at the docks. Crew on a few boats until you learn how to handle them. Get the feel of being "at sea", even if it's only in the harbor. Help them work on their boats to see what it's going to be like working on yours. It's NOT the romantic, rosy, peaceful picture of laying back most people think it is. Even if you hire everything done, at amazing expense, you'll still be working very hard to keep it running safely. It simply falls apart, piece by piece, just sitting at its dock. Constant repairs are necessary, even if you don't use it much. Things grow on its bottom that must be cleaned off by a diver. Filters constantly clog from things pumped into it to cool it/heat it. Fuel decays just sitting there, clogging their filters. Batteries need tending. It also helps if you're a plumber, carpenter, electrician, engine mechanic. You'll find all this out hanging with the guys on the docks. Befriend them. Some are very friendly. Others are like hermits and the reason they have a boat is to be isolated from other humans. Except for the hermits, if the guys on the docks find out you are willing to HELP them work on their boats, a great learning experience for you, even if you only hand them tools while they are contorted into odd shapes in the bilge, demand for your friendship goes way up. I have 4 boats belonging to out-of-town owners to play with. I gave up the idea of owning one long ago. It's lots more fun buying at 4X retail from West Marine on someone ELSE'S credit cards...(c; Well, gotta go to the marina. One of my dock buddies wants me to find out why his lights don't work on his Jolly rib boat, this morning. During the "Sea Trial", we'll probably end up at some waterfront bar for lunch. That will take hours as we move from the restaurant into the bar....(c; Life is GOOD...enjoy! -- Larry 3rd Mate, Deck and Engineering S/V "Lionheart" (Why do they all call me "captain"? It's not MY fault!) |
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I advise people in your situation to take a boating course and rent for a
while. See if you and the family like boating. There is more to it than just driving a boat around. If you want to get a feel for maintainence, make friends with someone who owns a boat similar to what strikes your fancy and help him/her work on that boat. Change the engine oil, paint the bottom, clean the bilge. For some, the personal satisfaction of a job well done; for others, a living nightmare. The second group usually gets sick of $70/hour bills for services and sells. MMC "H. David" wrote in message ... I am just beginning to explore getting into cruising, am newly retired, and want to cruise on the waterways of the Pacific Northwest doing regular overnight cruises for two people and occasionally 4. I have a boat budget of about $50,000. Any recommendations as the best boat to buy would be appreciated. I am open to new or used and will moor the boat at my local marina. From the reading I have done so far I know I want a craft that is first seaworthy, then reliable, and reasonably comfortable. Thanks very much. H. David |
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David -
If you haven't received an informative response yet, you should check out DiscoverBoating.com. The site is set up to help answer questions for people who are new to the boating world. If the answer is not on the site they have a "Discover Boating Guy" that you can e-mail who will answer your questioin directly. Hope this helps. Dan H. David wrote: I am just beginning to explore getting into cruising, am newly retired, and want to cruise on the waterways of the Pacific Northwest doing regular overnight cruises for two people and occasionally 4. I have a boat budget of about $50,000. Any recommendations as the best boat to buy would be appreciated. I am open to new or used and will moor the boat at my local marina. From the reading I have done so far I know I want a craft that is first seaworthy, then reliable, and reasonably comfortable. Thanks very much. H. David |
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