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Dave wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:18:16 GMT, "MMC" said:

No kidding, does the main know or care the luff length of the foresail
that's not up?

That's a bit disingenuous. His argument is that the main is further forward,
giving better balance when sailing under main alone. Whether the argument is
valid of not, deal with that argument not a straw man.

Davey, the fact is that there is no material difference between
sailing under a masthead rig or a fractional rig on main alone. I have
not observed any difference in balance, and I've sailed on both kinds
of boats many, many times. The only thing that's disingenous is your
claim of understanding of the situation when you have no
understanding.



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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
Davey, the fact is that there is no material difference between
sailing under a masthead rig or a fractional rig on main alone. I have
not observed any difference in balance, and I've sailed on both kinds
of boats many, many times. The only thing that's disingenous is your
claim of understanding of the situation when you have no
understanding.


Well, don't be too hard on him, he's working an angle to drag politics
into this thread too.

While there is a theoretical difference in the way the two rigs balance
under main alone, a competent designer makes the boat's underbody suit
the rig he puts on it, whether it be MH or frac.

The biggest difference I can think of is that the main on the frac rig
will be more responsive to backstay adjustment. On some boats, it's
almost like a first reef.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"DSK" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
Davey, the fact is that there is no material difference between
sailing under a masthead rig or a fractional rig on main alone. I have
not observed any difference in balance, and I've sailed on both kinds
of boats many, many times. The only thing that's disingenous is your
claim of understanding of the situation when you have no
understanding.

Well, don't be too hard on him, he's working an angle to drag politics
into this thread too.

While there is a theoretical difference in the way the two rigs balance
under main alone, a competent designer makes the boat's underbody suit the
rig he puts on it, whether it be MH or frac.

The biggest difference I can think of is that the main on the frac rig
will be more responsive to backstay adjustment. On some boats, it's almost
like a first reef.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Doug, I know. I was just giving him some well-deserved sh*t.

I noticed this backstay adjustment response on a C&C 40 a couple of years
ago. It had a hydraulic setup... you just had to make sure and depower it
when the wind or the sail dropped.