HarryKrause wrote:
twoguns wrote:

I have never been out of the U.S. coastal waters on a boat yet. Several
of my friends and I are planning an extensive world cruise in two
years. All of us have had extensive training in the use of firearms of
all types and we all enjoy shooting sports as a hobby. We all like
trapshooting so we will have at least 6 shotguns plus a few thousand
rounds. Add in personal weapons and there will be an extensive arsenal
on board. I know some countries absolutely prohibit personal firearms
so we will have to take precautions in certain waters. Mexico is one of
the most prohibitive I understand. Since we don't want to have an
international incident what procedures are best in a situation like
this? I have suggested we build a couple of watertight capsules for the
weapons and ammunition. With GPS and the appropriate eqipment we could
drop them overboard when entering restricted areas and then retrieve
them later. Are there any better but legal options that could be
followed? TIA,
Dennis



That sounds like a wonderful way to end up the girlfriend of some really
gnarly Mexican prisoner.

You might want to contact the Mexican consulate in your area and get a
take on the proper and legal way to carry firearms into that country.
The outcome likely will be more acceptable to all.


Just in the news this month was a number of American tourists trying to
enter Canada without declaring their firearms. Our border people take
the weapons and fine the guilty party $ 1K.
Some visitors try to hide the firearms in concealed compartments in
their campers. One guy was carrying on a motorcycle. All say they
needed the guns for self-defence. In this end of the country
especially, (Maritime provinces) you will not need protection. bring
lots of Yankee dollahs and we'll make you feel right at
home.....sometimes better than home.
Leave those firearms stateside or at least tell the border guard you
have them. He'll advise you what to do.

Leave those firearms stateside or at least tell the border guard you
have them. He'll advise you what to do.

Reply
Don,
I haven't been to Canada recently but when I was in the trucking
business I was in Canada on a regular basis. At that time you could
carry a rifle or shotgun with no problems. You had to declare it at the
border and fill out a form. NO HANDGUNS were allowed whatsoever at that
time with one exception: If you were a U.S. citizen heading to Alaska
you could put the handgun in a sealed bag and carry with you. If a RCMP
or other official checked and the seal was broken while in Canada you
were in deep ****. I think since then the law has been changed and you
have to arrange for the shipment of handguns from FFL dealers on the
U.S. side of the border now. With the gun control people in firm
control in Canada even the laws against rifles and shotguns are
probably much stricter.

Oh it is possible to get mugged in Canada also. I was standing in a
line at a downtown Edmonton theater in the late 1970's and some guy
attacked a lady that took a shortcut through an alley back to her car.
Several of us standing in line for the movie heard her screams but
other than a small cut on her arm from the knife he cut her purse strap
with she was OK but it could have been a lot worse.
Dennis

twoguns wrote:

Reply
Don,
I haven't been to Canada recently but when I was in the trucking
business I was in Canada on a regular basis. At that time you could
carry a rifle or shotgun with no problems. You had to declare it at the
border and fill out a form. NO HANDGUNS were allowed whatsoever at that
time with one exception: If you were a U.S. citizen heading to Alaska
you could put the handgun in a sealed bag and carry with you. If a RCMP
or other official checked and the seal was broken while in Canada you
were in deep ****. I think since then the law has been changed and you
have to arrange for the shipment of handguns from FFL dealers on the
U.S. side of the border now. With the gun control people in firm
control in Canada even the laws against rifles and shotguns are
probably much stricter.

Oh it is possible to get mugged in Canada also. I was standing in a
line at a downtown Edmonton theater in the late 1970's and some guy
attacked a lady that took a shortcut through an alley back to her car.
Several of us standing in line for the movie heard her screams but
other than a small cut on her arm from the knife he cut her purse strap
with she was OK but it could have been a lot worse.
Dennis

Yes..you could even get mugged in Halifax.
The last time an American carrier group visited, the Canadian Navy sent
along information that the main street from our Naval Base to downtown
was to be avoided..since it's populated by drug dealers, addicts,
prostitutes etc. What a commotion arose from that area. You would
think someone insulted their wives/daughters etc. ...and yes, it was
good advice that I would give to any visitor who asked. Anywhere
else...no guns required!

In article ,
Don White wrote:

twoguns wrote:

Reply
Don,
I haven't been to Canada recently but when I was in the trucking
business I was in Canada on a regular basis. At that time you could
carry a rifle or shotgun with no problems. You had to declare it at the
border and fill out a form. NO HANDGUNS were allowed whatsoever at that
time with one exception: If you were a U.S. citizen heading to Alaska
you could put the handgun in a sealed bag and carry with you. If a RCMP
or other official checked and the seal was broken while in Canada you
were in deep ****. I think since then the law has been changed and you
have to arrange for the shipment of handguns from FFL dealers on the
U.S. side of the border now. With the gun control people in firm
control in Canada even the laws against rifles and shotguns are
probably much stricter.

Oh it is possible to get mugged in Canada also. I was standing in a
line at a downtown Edmonton theater in the late 1970's and some guy
attacked a lady that took a shortcut through an alley back to her car.
Several of us standing in line for the movie heard her screams but
other than a small cut on her arm from the knife he cut her purse strap
with she was OK but it could have been a lot worse.
Dennis

Yes..you could even get mugged in Halifax.
The last time an American carrier group visited, the Canadian Navy sent
along information that the main street from our Naval Base to downtown
was to be avoided..since it's populated by drug dealers, addicts,
prostitutes etc. What a commotion arose from that area. You would
think someone insulted their wives/daughters etc. ...and yes, it was
good advice that I would give to any visitor who asked. Anywhere
else...no guns required!

and some folks actually believe that that Aircraft Carrier didn't have
any guns aboard, while making the visit........ Not the case at all..
but that said, all those firearms were, either issued to internal
Security Forces, On duty, or secured in the armory under Customs Seal...
This by International Convention......


Me

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Juneau, Alaska 99850 Excursion Inlet, Alaska 99850
www.btpost.net www.99850.net

In article .com,
"twoguns" wrote:

Leave those firearms stateside or at least tell the border guard you
have them. He'll advise you what to do.

Reply
Don,
I haven't been to Canada recently but when I was in the trucking
business I was in Canada on a regular basis. At that time you could
carry a rifle or shotgun with no problems. You had to declare it at the
border and fill out a form. NO HANDGUNS were allowed whatsoever at that
time with one exception: If you were a U.S. citizen heading to Alaska
you could put the handgun in a sealed bag and carry with you. If a RCMP
or other official checked and the seal was broken while in Canada you
were in deep ****. I think since then the law has been changed and you
have to arrange for the shipment of handguns from FFL dealers on the
U.S. side of the border now. With the gun control people in firm
control in Canada even the laws against rifles and shotguns are
probably much stricter.

Oh it is possible to get mugged in Canada also. I was standing in a
line at a downtown Edmonton theater in the late 1970's and some guy
attacked a lady that took a shortcut through an alley back to her car.
Several of us standing in line for the movie heard her screams but
other than a small cut on her arm from the knife he cut her purse strap
with she was OK but it could have been a lot worse.
Dennis


Passage on water has totally different Laws than passage via Land.
There are international conventions that govern ships and Ports
of Call. Folks ought not to confuse the two.


Me