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On Fri, 20 May 2005, jps wrote: In article , says... When there's an election coming up, you hear a lot of talk about how liberals "support the troops" and in rare cases, it's true. There are certainly liberals out there who respect the bravery, sacrifice, and risks our troops take to keep this country protected from its enemies. However, the ugly truth is that there are a lot of liberals in this country, a large majority of them, who don't support the troops, who -- as one poster on the Democratic Underground put it -- look at the our troops as "Cannon fodder and killers doing what they're told to do". Can you please cite a single study which suggests a majority of liberals in this country don't support our troops? Where the **** do you get this information? Generally speaking, liberals aren't in favor of their countrymen giving up their lives to support our dependency on oil. Do you disagree? Do you think it's a good use of our countrymen and our taxes to bomb and kill innocent citizens in order to take over the second largest known oil reserve in the world under the guise of dethroning a dictator (which years earlier was our staunch ally and tool). We'd rather spend money on developing new forms of energy. Unplug your head from your ass and you'll see plainly that Saddam wasn't a threat to our country. The cocksuckers who hijacked our planes and killed our citizens were provoked. We befriended them, gave them arms, money and training to kill Soviet fighters in Afghanistan. Then we turned on them, just as we did Saddam, Manuel Noriega, and a host of other assholes around the globe. Wake up and smell the coffee dickwad. jps Are you so stupid you don't look at headers? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.58ckt iQA/AwUBQo6fKv5McEU5rTr2EQK8dwCaAjyeAPeYADs5YL7MdShqZM xa4WYAoMK2 OufumQrSDnMi65vZXZKsec8h =UpZU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services. The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header is unverified. You need a valid hashcash token to post to groups other than alt.test and alt.anonymous.messages. Visit www.panta-rhei.dyndns.org for abuse and hashcash info. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... In article , says... When there's an election coming up, you hear a lot of talk about how liberals "support the troops" and in rare cases, it's true. There are certainly liberals out there who respect the bravery, sacrifice, and risks our troops take to keep this country protected from its enemies. However, the ugly truth is that there are a lot of liberals in this country, a large majority of them, who don't support the troops, who -- as one poster on the Democratic Underground put it -- look at the our troops as "Cannon fodder and killers doing what they're told to do". Can you please cite a single study which suggests a majority of liberals in this country don't support our troops? Just watch your favorite news program. you will see plenty of liberals that don't like the US military. Where the **** do you get this information? From the public airways and printed media. Generally speaking, liberals aren't in favor of their countrymen giving up their lives to support our dependency on oil. Do you disagree? Do you think it's a good use of our countrymen and our taxes to bomb and kill innocent citizens in order to take over the second largest known oil reserve in the world under the guise of dethroning a dictator (which years earlier was our staunch ally and tool). Dependency on oil? We, all of us liberal and conservative, are dependent upon energy. It just so happens that oil and natural gas are the most abundant and economical sources of producing energy that theya are used the most. I guess that Sadam's killing fields should be over looked. Have you looked at your heating bill lately or filled up your cars gas tank? We'd rather spend money on developing new forms of energy. Fine, spend your money on it! Unplug your head from your ass and you'll see plainly that Saddam wasn't a threat to our country. You have a limited view of history and what is going on in the world. The cocksuckers who hijacked our planes and killed our citizens were provoked. We befriended them, gave them arms, money and training to kill Soviet fighters in Afghanistan. Then we turned on them, just as we did Saddam, Manuel Noriega, and a host of other assholes around the globe. Provoked? How? Our contry does what it believes to be the best course of action at that time in order to ensure that our country survives. This statement can be used by any country in the world. Wake up and smell the coffee dickwad. I'd rather have sugar in my coffee. |
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And a very high percentage of these liberals, like me, are decorated
Vietnam era vets who really know what it was like to be in the service, a concept lost to "leaders" like AWOL bush, "had-better-things-to-do" Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and the rest of these chickenhawks who think nothing of sending our troops into battle to enrich themselves and their friends. Where were you from 1965 to 1972? Defending your country or shooting off your mouth like you are today? Capt. Jeff |
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"Tamaroak" wrote in message ... And a very high percentage of these liberals, like me, are decorated Vietnam era vets who really know what it was like to be in the service, a concept lost to "leaders" like AWOL bush, "had-better-things-to-do" Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and the rest of these chickenhawks who think nothing of sending our troops into battle to enrich themselves and their friends. Where were you from 1965 to 1972? Defending your country or shooting off your mouth like you are today? Capt. Jeff What decorations did you receive during your service to our country? |
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"Tamaroak" wrote in message ... And a very high percentage of these liberals, like me, are decorated Vietnam era vets who really know what it was like to be in the service, a concept lost to "leaders" like AWOL bush, "had-better-things-to-do" Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and the rest of these chickenhawks who think nothing of sending our troops into battle to enrich themselves and their friends. Where were you from 1962 to 1972? Defending your country or shooting off your mouth like you are today? Capt. Jeff With respect Sir: I was here during those years and I heard all the rhetoric and saw what was being done. The horrible waste of men who died while the generals were forced to fight a war micromanaged by President Johnson. I remember when President Nixon was elected, he mined the harbors in N. Vietnam to keep arms from our allies (France, Germany, Russia and England) from being delivered to Vietnam. This killed no one and saved our soldiers lives. WHY didn't Johnson do that??????? He didn't have the guts to stand up and defend our guys, they were cannon fodder to him. He was more concerned with world opinion. A Kerry, Clinton or liberal viewpoint. There are Democrats, many of them who are NOT of this mind set but they would never get the nomination in the current Democrat party. It is not healthy for our country for one party to hold the reigns of power for too long. We, all of us need to do something to change the leadership of the Democrat party or this will become a one party country and we are headed down the tubes. Belittling the Republicans won't do it, changing the democrat party to reflect the values of the red states (who are mainly democrat anyway) is the way to go. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Tamaroak" wrote in message ... And a very high percentage of these liberals, like me, are decorated Vietnam era vets who really know what it was like to be in the service, a concept lost to "leaders" like AWOL bush, "had-better-things-to-do" Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and the rest of these chickenhawks who think nothing of sending our troops into battle to enrich themselves and their friends. Where were you from 1962 to 1972? Defending your country or shooting off your mouth like you are today? Capt. Jeff With respect Sir: I was here during those years and I heard all the rhetoric and saw what was being done. The horrible waste of men who died while the generals were forced to fight a war micromanaged by President Johnson. I remember when President Nixon was elected, he mined the harbors in N. Vietnam to keep arms from our allies (France, Germany, Russia and England) from being delivered to Vietnam. This killed no one and saved our soldiers lives. WHY didn't Johnson do that??????? He didn't have the guts to stand up and defend our guys, they were cannon fodder to him. He was more concerned with world opinion. A Kerry, Clinton or liberal viewpoint. There are Democrats, many of them who are NOT of this mind set but they would never get the nomination in the current Democrat party. It is not healthy for our country for one party to hold the reigns of power for too long. We, all of us need to do something to change the leadership of the Democrat party or this will become a one party country and we are headed down the tubes. Belittling the Republicans won't do it, changing the democrat party to reflect the values of the red states (who are mainly democrat anyway) is the way to go. Well said. Like Vietnam, we're bogged down in a war without reason. We are in a war for the survival of the western culture. If you can't see that then you are part of the problem. Islam is like communisim in its goal which is that utopia will only be available when the whole world is Islamic or communist. Unfortunately, the present administration doesn't share Nixon's resolve to properly protect our troops. Inferior vests, unarmored humvees and a calloused approach has cost many of our citizens their lives or their sound bodies. It's an u necessary risk that could have been solved with a bit more money. Our men and women are again cannon fodder. Congress, the House and the Senate, are the ones that control how much money is appropriated. And, Bush hasn't vetoed a single spending bill. Call your Representative or Senator and complain to them. |
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