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On 17 Apr 2005 08:07:02 -0700, wrote:

Expect a couple of familiar voices crying out that such waves don't
exist. :-)


Fortunately they did not exist today on the Gulf of Mexico. We did
see a few in the 3 to 4 foot range which caused Mrs B to stow some
things that were flying around the cabin. Altogether though, it was a
nice ride from Boca Grande down the outside of Cayo Costa, North
Captiva and Captiva Islands, Sannibel Island and back home. The gulf
was a lovely iridescent blue green color punctuated with the white
tops of wind driven waves from a northerly blowing 20 kt +. We could
have gone inside, down the inter coastal waterway, but we're trying to
shake things down for the trip north next month.

Saturday night we were anchored in Pelican Bay at the north end of
Cayo Costa, taking wind gusts of 30 kt plus. This was the first
combat test of the new Spade S200 anchor (120 lbs), and 3/8 HT chain.
The Spade S200 bit hard on the very first set and never budged an
inch. It came up this morning with a huge glob of clay on it from
being so firmly dug in. The windlass refused to pull it out but we
snubbed the chain at near vertical and reversed it out with the DD671s
and twin 28 inch props. No problem at all, even at idle speed they
generate a lot of thrust.


I was out Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, but no more than 5 miles from shore.
On Friday and Saturday, that strong NNW wind had it bumpy right up to the
shore. On Sunday, the wind shifted to the NE and the waves were flat out to
about a mile. Running perpendicular to the wind made for quite a wet ride.

It's been a helluva windy winter...especially on the weekends.


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The following was excerpted from a CBC story on the cruise ship:

"According to its satellite surveillance, the European Space
Agency estimates 'rogue' waves can reach up to 35 metres
high and destroy about 200 ships a year."


Chuck


NOYB wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On 17 Apr 2005 08:07:02 -0700, wrote:


Expect a couple of familiar voices crying out that such waves don't
exist. :-)


Fortunately they did not exist today on the Gulf of Mexico. We did
see a few in the 3 to 4 foot range which caused Mrs B to stow some
things that were flying around the cabin. Altogether though, it was a
nice ride from Boca Grande down the outside of Cayo Costa, North
Captiva and Captiva Islands, Sannibel Island and back home. The gulf
was a lovely iridescent blue green color punctuated with the white
tops of wind driven waves from a northerly blowing 20 kt +. We could
have gone inside, down the inter coastal waterway, but we're trying to
shake things down for the trip north next month.

Saturday night we were anchored in Pelican Bay at the north end of
Cayo Costa, taking wind gusts of 30 kt plus. This was the first
combat test of the new Spade S200 anchor (120 lbs), and 3/8 HT chain.
The Spade S200 bit hard on the very first set and never budged an
inch. It came up this morning with a huge glob of clay on it from
being so firmly dug in. The windlass refused to pull it out but we
snubbed the chain at near vertical and reversed it out with the DD671s
and twin 28 inch props. No problem at all, even at idle speed they
generate a lot of thrust.



I was out Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, but no more than 5 miles from shore.
On Friday and Saturday, that strong NNW wind had it bumpy right up to the
shore. On Sunday, the wind shifted to the NE and the waves were flat out to
about a mile. Running perpendicular to the wind made for quite a wet ride.

It's been a helluva windy winter...especially on the weekends.


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Thats a typically sloppy, exaggerated news report. The oft-cited ESA
report found 10 waves 25 meters or more and extrapolated from that.
Roughly 100 ships a year are sunk, and while rogue waves are the
possible cause of many, that's a long way from proving that such waves
"destroy 200 ships a year."




chuck wrote:
The following was excerpted from a CBC story on the cruise ship:

"According to its satellite surveillance, the European Space Agency
estimates 'rogue' waves can reach up to 35 metres high and destroy about
200 ships a year."


Chuck



NOYB wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On 17 Apr 2005 08:07:02 -0700, wrote:


Expect a couple of familiar voices crying out that such waves don't
exist. :-)

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Thanks for the comment, Jeff. It is indeed sloppy reporting
since I see the ESA website reports 200 supertankers and
container ships exceeding 200 meters in length were sunk in
the last two decades by severe weather!!! Quite a departure
from the CBC story.

On the other hand, ESA's study was based on only 3 weeks of
observation, during which they found ten waves above 25
meters. If their sample is unbiased, we would expect to see
about 170 such waves per year. Still an amazing number.

Chuck

Jeff wrote:
Thats a typically sloppy, exaggerated news report. The oft-cited ESA
report found 10 waves 25 meters or more and extrapolated from that.
Roughly 100 ships a year are sunk, and while rogue waves are the
possible cause of many, that's a long way from proving that such waves
"destroy 200 ships a year."




chuck wrote:

The following was excerpted from a CBC story on the cruise ship:

"According to its satellite surveillance, the European Space Agency
estimates 'rogue' waves can reach up to 35 metres high and destroy
about 200 ships a year."


Chuck



NOYB wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On 17 Apr 2005 08:07:02 -0700, wrote:


Expect a couple of familiar voices crying out that such waves don't
exist. :-)




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Wayne B.:

Where you headed north to?

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"chuck" wrote in message
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Thanks for the comment, Jeff. It is indeed sloppy reporting since I see
the ESA website reports 200 supertankers and container ships exceeding 200
meters in length were sunk in the last two decades by severe weather!!!
Quite a departure from the CBC story.

On the other hand, ESA's study was based on only 3 weeks of observation,
during which they found ten waves above 25 meters. If their sample is
unbiased, we would expect to see about 170 such waves per year. Still an
amazing number.

Chuck

Jeff wrote:
Thats a typically sloppy, exaggerated news report. The oft-cited ESA
report found 10 waves 25 meters or more and extrapolated from that.
Roughly 100 ships a year are sunk, and while rogue waves are the possible
cause of many, that's a long way from proving that such waves "destroy
200 ships a year."




chuck wrote:

The following was excerpted from a CBC story on the cruise ship:

"According to its satellite surveillance, the European Space Agency
estimates 'rogue' waves can reach up to 35 metres high and destroy about
200 ships a year."


Chuck



NOYB wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On 17 Apr 2005 08:07:02 -0700, wrote:


Expect a couple of familiar voices crying out that such waves don't
exist. :-)



There are a lot of commercial ships floating the ocean that would not
survive a 20' rogue wave. Lots of junk still in use.


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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:52:16 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

NY, CT, Long Island Sound and Cape Cod Islands.


Blech. All blue states.


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Could be but real nice boating in the summer time.

Aren't you from NJ originally, or do I have it wrong?

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