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Gordon April 10th 05 05:12 AM

Lazy jacks
 
Lazy jacks, Yes or No?
G

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Rich Hampel April 10th 05 05:43 AM

Lazy jacks .... maybe
Eazy-Jacks .... Yup, 'cause you can fold them up along the boom and
mast and not have the turbulance generated by permanently installed
lazy jacks.
Both will aid in reefing and with no need to 'tie-in' the reef - just
the luff and leech cringles.

In article , Gordon
wrote:

Lazy jacks, Yes or No?
G

Ask not for whom the terrorist bell tolls; it tolls for thee, and thee, and
thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere.



Sebastian Miles April 10th 05 08:38 AM

I agree, I grew up on a boat with no such thing. Then I sailed a friends
boat and I realised how good it was.
He had Lazys which at the top went through pullie so he could losten it and
tie it down up front. It will remove the turbulence and will work wonders
when reefing and in emergencies when you need to let the sail down fast.

Sebas

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...
Lazy jacks .... maybe
Eazy-Jacks .... Yup, 'cause you can fold them up along the boom and
mast and not have the turbulance generated by permanently installed
lazy jacks.
Both will aid in reefing and with no need to 'tie-in' the reef - just
the luff and leech cringles.

In article , Gordon
wrote:

Lazy jacks, Yes or No?
G

Ask not for whom the terrorist bell tolls; it tolls for thee, and thee,

and
thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere.





Akka April 10th 05 11:08 AM

We have a Dutchman system on our full-battened Stevens 50, and can't
imagine what it would be like not to have it. When we drop the main,
the sail simply folds back and forth (maybe with a little help from the
crew, if we really need it to look especially good). If we need to
drop the sail in a hurry, we just let the halyard go and poof, the main
is down, nothing on the deck or in the water. We've done this on a
reach in a blow, with the boom hanging out over the side, no problems!

When we're sailing, there's no aerodynamic effect, as the lines are
monofilament. So the system is always ready and can be used in an
emergency with no preparation.

We'e heard people say that the monofilament chafes the sail, but after
over 20,000 miles offshore, we haven't seen any evidence of this!

One caveat: With a Dutchman system, you have to have a strong solid
vang or tighten the toppinglift before you take in a reef, so that the
boom won't be hanging on the monofilament lines. Also, of course, you
have to put grommets in the sail for the monofilament lines to pass
through.


[email protected] April 10th 05 02:46 PM

I get annoyed with my lazy jacks because the mainsail battens catch on
'em Every time I hoist the main.
While I appreciate the value of lazy jacks, the "damnit!" factor is
definitely gaining. I think they are going to get taken off this
spring...

Gary
http://home.ca.inter.net/~gkmd/sail/CarpeDiem.htm


Jim, April 10th 05 03:09 PM

wrote:
I get annoyed with my lazy jacks because the mainsail battens catch on
'em Every time I hoist the main.
While I appreciate the value of lazy jacks, the "damnit!" factor is
definitely gaining. I think they are going to get taken off this
spring...

Gary
http://home.ca.inter.net/~gkmd/sail/CarpeDiem.htm

I have Lazy Jacks attached with clips to rings on the boom. When
raising sail, just remove them, and clip them to the lifelines; then put
them back. Works for me!

Gordon Wedman April 10th 05 05:30 PM


"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Lazy jacks, Yes or No?
G

Ask not for whom the terrorist bell tolls; it tolls for thee, and thee,
and
thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere.


I have the Harken lazy jacks on my C&C 37. There is enough extra line to
allow me to pull everything to the mast where I hook it behind the reefing
hook. I have full battens in the main and I only have to be careful with
the first part of the hoist. Once the first short batten gets past the
lines all the others pass without attention. Lazy jacks are certainly handy
things to have on a larger boat, especially if you single-hand.



Don White April 10th 05 06:06 PM

wrote:
I get annoyed with my lazy jacks because the mainsail battens catch on
'em Every time I hoist the main.
While I appreciate the value of lazy jacks, the "damnit!" factor is
definitely gaining. I think they are going to get taken off this
spring...

Gary
http://home.ca.inter.net/~gkmd/sail/CarpeDiem.htm


As long as we headed 'directly' into the wind', we had no problem. When
we were a few degrees one way or the other. one of the battens always
ended up outside the lazyjacks, causing us to ease off the main halyard
a bit, round up and try again.

Doug Dotson April 10th 05 06:21 PM

Yes, they are wonderful.

Doug

"Gordon" wrote in message
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Lazy jacks, Yes or No?
G

Ask not for whom the terrorist bell tolls; it tolls for thee, and thee,
and
thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere.





Tom R. April 10th 05 08:45 PM

For me soloing my S2 9.1 they were terrific.

"Gordon" wrote in message
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Lazy jacks, Yes or No?
G

Ask not for whom the terrorist bell tolls; it tolls for thee, and thee,
and
thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere.





[email protected] April 11th 05 01:56 AM

Another S2, I have an 8.5 S2 set up for single handing. How is the 9.1
for single handing?
I have all the hardware for lazyjacks and a plan for a system that
should easily pull out of the way when hoisting sail. The plan is to
install it one day on a long leg of my cruise. It hasn't happened yet.

Tom R. wrote:
For me soloing my S2 9.1 they were terrific.

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Lazy jacks, Yes or No?
G

Ask not for whom the terrorist bell tolls; it tolls for thee, and

thee,
and
thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere.




Rich Hampel April 11th 05 04:31 AM

Take a look at http://www.ezjax.com/ezjax/ the only time they are
deployed is when dropping the sail or holding in a reefed (and
unbunted) sail.
I have mine stored on the boom when raising. I swear by my
('home-made') ezjax equivalents. Once I put in the second and third
reefs I will tie in the reef lines; but, for a single reef I just lay
it in the ezjax.

.com,
wrote:

I get annoyed with my lazy jacks because the mainsail battens catch on
'em Every time I hoist the main.
While I appreciate the value of lazy jacks, the "damnit!" factor is
definitely gaining. I think they are going to get taken off this
spring...

Gary
http://home.ca.inter.net/~gkmd/sail/CarpeDiem.htm


Tom R. April 11th 05 11:38 PM

I would just let the lazyjacks go very slack when sailing and tighten them
when I sailed back into the mooring. I assume that there may have been some
sail chafe, but there were no signs of it. I looked at the Dutchman system,
but I felt (no experience nor investigation) that it interfered with sail
shape. It probably did not, but I just had a feeling.

The 9.1 demands a lot of attention to the tiller when sailing alone. It is a
very active boat. I considered a tiller lock for the longest amount of time.
Before I made the decision a friend gave me an Autohelm autopilot for the
tiller. I used to think that an autopilot violated the pristine virtues of
sailing, but I loved it. It allowed me to go further alone and it handled
well the lively activity of the 9.1 tiller.

Tom


wrote in message
ups.com...
Another S2, I have an 8.5 S2 set up for single handing. How is the 9.1
for single handing?
I have all the hardware for lazyjacks and a plan for a system that
should easily pull out of the way when hoisting sail. The plan is to
install it one day on a long leg of my cruise. It hasn't happened yet.

Tom R. wrote:
For me soloing my S2 9.1 they were terrific.

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Lazy jacks, Yes or No?
G

Ask not for whom the terrorist bell tolls; it tolls for thee, and

thee,
and
thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere.







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