On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:34:08 GMT, "John Cairns"
wrote:

In which case you get a boat with a swing keel. When you hit something,
just
crank 'er up. Been there, done that and many valuable lessons cheaply
learned.


Or a wing keel :)

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The problem with a wing keel is that you can not free the boat up by
heeling it over which is the classic solution for getting unstuck.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:12:04 -0500, Gogarty
wrote:

Changed direction to the sea buoy and then came
straight in to the inlet from there. Lots of shoaling on either side of the
inlet well out past the jetties.

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That's a good point. The sea buoys are usually positioned where they
are for a reason.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:46:13 -0500, Gogarty
wrote:

Or the skipper
of that submaraine that hit the undersea mountain recently. End of career.

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Has that been determined for a fact?

Wayne.B wrote:

The problem with a wing keel is that you can not free the boat up by
heeling it over which is the classic solution for getting unstuck.


That depends on how far you heel it over ;-)

Don W.

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says...


On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:46:13 -0500, Gogarty
wrote:

Or the skipper
of that submaraine that hit the undersea mountain recently. End of career.

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Has that been determined for a fact?

I believe he was courtmartialed and accused of travelling to fast and paying
proper attention to navigation in a chancy area. Yes, his career is over.

Umm... you haven't done much sailing on brigantines have you. I've run
two diffferent tallships (a schooner and a brig) and own my own 40
footer. I would agree with that statement for small boats but not for
the hundred foot plus traditional rigs. Generally I (and the officiers
I've sailed under) are more interested in reducing windage (of which
those boats have A LOT of) and increasing visibility.

Probably not swamped a 12 or 14 foot rib (which they might carry) but
launching the small boat is really challanging (read dangerous) in a
good seaway.

The other thing you will find is tests that don't relate to 90% of what
the master of a traditional vessel does in a day.

Ben wrote:
Probably not swamped a 12 or 14 foot rib (which they might carry) but
launching the small boat is really challanging (read dangerous) in a
good seaway.


And more so when the boat is aground and has no ability or tendency to
move in sympathy with the waves.

DSK

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:36:50 -0500, DSK wrote
this crap:



And more so when the boat is aground and has no ability or tendency to
move in sympathy with the waves.

DSK


DSK is a lying cocksucker, and a coward.

DSK has posted blatent lies on this newsgroup, and when he is proven
to be a liar, he doesn't have the balls to defend himself.





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