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Immigration to Canada
I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007.
I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators licence. Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to make this vessel OK in Canada and me to pilot it? Forget any issue of transportation and power supplies etc, I have those bits under control Also I have identified a newsgroup called can.rec.boating which may be helpful to me but this is the first time I have ever tried to work with newsgroups and my news server does not find this. Any ideas (in layman's terms) how I might be able to connect to this group? Hope someone can help |
If not available through your ISP, maybe try "Google", then click on "Groups" and then type in "rec.can.boating" Also I have identified a newsgroup called can.rec.boating which may be helpful to me but this is the first time I have ever tried to work with newsgroups and my news server does not find this. Any ideas (in layman's terms) how I might be able to connect to this group? |
Oops ... (a lotta beer was consumed las night) ... "can.rec.boating"
"bowgus" wrote in message ... If not available through your ISP, maybe try "Google", then click on "Groups" and then type in "rec.can.boating" Also I have identified a newsgroup called can.rec.boating which may be helpful to me but this is the first time I have ever tried to work with newsgroups and my news server does not find this. Any ideas (in layman's terms) how I might be able to connect to this group? |
Martin Woolwich wrote:
I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007. I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators licence. Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to make this vessel OK in Canada and me to pilot it? Forget any issue of transportation and power supplies etc, I have those bits under control Also I have identified a newsgroup called can.rec.boating which may be helpful to me but this is the first time I have ever tried to work with newsgroups and my news server does not find this. Any ideas (in layman's terms) how I might be able to connect to this group? Hope someone can help for immigration http://canadainternational.gc.ca/GTC..._Canada-en.htm for the boat www.tc.gc.ca follow the links to "marine" cheers |
Well that bit worked - thank you. it's the rest of it I now need to sort
:-) "bowgus" wrote in message ... Oops ... (a lotta beer was consumed las night) ... "can.rec.boating" "bowgus" wrote in message ... If not available through your ISP, maybe try "Google", then click on "Groups" and then type in "rec.can.boating" Also I have identified a newsgroup called can.rec.boating which may be helpful to me but this is the first time I have ever tried to work with newsgroups and my news server does not find this. Any ideas (in layman's terms) how I might be able to connect to this group? |
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:57:23 GMT, "Martin Woolwich"
wrote: I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007. Where in Canada? I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators licence. Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to make this vessel OK in Canada and me to pilot it? Check out http://www.tc.gc.ca/BoatingSafety/menu.htm for most requirements. You do not need a license for your boat, but you will need one for the dinghy if less than 4 meters and powered. You will probably need to get a Canadian VHF restricted operator's certificate. Check with the Canadian Power Squadron about locating the nearest examiner. You might want to get the ship's radio licensed: http://boating.ncf.ca/vhf.html#license The vessel registration process is at http://www.tc.gc.ca/MarineSafety/Shi...s/registry.htm Jack __________________________________________________ Jack Dale Swiftsure Sailing Academy Director/ISPA and CYA Instructor http://www.swiftsuresailing.com __________________________________________________ |
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:21:51 GMT, Jack Dale
wrote: You do not need a license for your boat, but you will need one for the dinghy if less than 4 meters and powered. Minor, but significant correction. Should be "operators license." Your boat will need a license and the dinghy also if over 9.9 horsepower. Jack |
Martin Woolwich wrote:
I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007. I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to make this vessel OK in Canada and me to pilot it? Vessels of that size are "Registered" in Canada. (Canada offers a more informal "License" for vessels under 15 Gross Tons.) You probably will have to get it measured to determine it's Gross Tonnage when you enter Canada. Then you'll need to de-register it in the UK and re-register it in Canada. Talk to the UK ship's registry about de-registration requirements. You'll probably have to pay duty and GST (7%) on some value of the boat (no idea how much they will value it if is used and purchase was a long time ago; you might be able to just declare a value) - however if you're immigrating you may be able to get it in as "household goods" or something like that... As far as safety regulations or standards there won't be anything significant. You have to carry some basic safety equipment that you'd probably already carry in the UK. The only big difference would be Canadian approved PFD's. The VHF might have to be changed to transmit on "U.S." channels that are in use here. Eventually all skippers of recreational craft will be required to have an operator's card. Currently if you have a power vessel under 4m you need it (so I need a card for my dinghy but not my 40' sailboat). I think by 2009 you'll need to have it for the big boat too. It's a very simple multiple choice exam that can be passed with a few hours study. Good luck and happy immigrating. Evan Gatehouse |
Other folks have given you good advice.
I'd just like to suggest you immigrate to Vancouver. You will have a fantastic time with your boat on the West coast. I suppose the East coast is OK for short trips and perhaps better if you wish to do really long trips, say to Florida, but the West coast has a lot to offer with just a short cruise. "Martin Woolwich" wrote in message ... I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007. I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators licence. Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to make this vessel OK in Canada and me to pilot it? Forget any issue of transportation and power supplies etc, I have those bits under control Also I have identified a newsgroup called can.rec.boating which may be helpful to me but this is the first time I have ever tried to work with newsgroups and my news server does not find this. Any ideas (in layman's terms) how I might be able to connect to this group? Hope someone can help |
Martin Woolwich wrote:
I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007. I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators licence. Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to make this vessel OK in Canada and me to pilot it? Forget any issue of transportation and power supplies etc, I have those bits under control Also I have identified a newsgroup called can.rec.boating which may be helpful to me but this is the first time I have ever tried to work with newsgroups and my news server does not find this. Any ideas (in layman's terms) how I might be able to connect to this group? Hope someone can help To find the group, you must connect to a newsgroup server that subscribes to the group. The server is specified in news server settings in your email account manager, somewhere. I don't know where that is in M$ Outlook. Depends on which client software you use. I use nntp.broadband.rogers.com and allnews.nbnet.nb.ca or, you may request your ISP to subscribe to the group. Such begging takes a while sometimes. If you just post to the group, it may go through and subscribe for your service automatically. Http newsgroups are a pain, but they are all available to any net browser if you don't mind the shlawphy response. Use http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.rec.boating if you can stand it. I have a mooring and camp on the St. John river in New Brunswick at Evandale. I use can.rec.sailing regularly, but it's very quiet right now, because of the season. If you need anything specific, please Terry K |
On 2005-02-13 19:57:23 +1100, "Martin Woolwich" said:
I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007. I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators licence. Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to make this vessel OK in Canada and me to pilot it? Forget any issue of transportation and power supplies etc, I have those bits under control Also I have identified a newsgroup called can.rec.boating which may be helpful to me but this is the first time I have ever tried to work with newsgroups and my news server does not find this. Any ideas (in layman's terms) how I might be able to connect to this group? Hope someone can help Slightly off topic but what the hell.... Martin, as a ex Canadian can I say that the best thing I did (and I am a slow learner) is that after 31 years of living in a climate that was 9 months winter and 3 months bad sleding (only joking rhys) I moved to Australia. I like my water in the liquid state and I can sail 365 days a year providing the weather is reasonable. A bad winter's day in Melbourne is 5-10 degrees C. Better in Sydney but more expensive berths ;-) -- Regards, John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789 S/V Chagall |
My real desire is actually to go to Perth.
But wife is Canadian and kids have Canadian nationality and won't hear of us going anywhere else. At least we both agree that we have to get out of the UK "John Proctor" wrote in message news:2005021822084175249%lost@nowhereorg... On 2005-02-13 19:57:23 +1100, "Martin Woolwich" said: I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007. I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators licence. Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to make this vessel OK in Canada and me to pilot it? Forget any issue of transportation and power supplies etc, I have those bits under control Also I have identified a newsgroup called can.rec.boating which may be helpful to me but this is the first time I have ever tried to work with newsgroups and my news server does not find this. Any ideas (in layman's terms) how I might be able to connect to this group? Hope someone can help Slightly off topic but what the hell.... Martin, as a ex Canadian can I say that the best thing I did (and I am a slow learner) is that after 31 years of living in a climate that was 9 months winter and 3 months bad sleding (only joking rhys) I moved to Australia. I like my water in the liquid state and I can sail 365 days a year providing the weather is reasonable. A bad winter's day in Melbourne is 5-10 degrees C. Better in Sydney but more expensive berths ;-) -- Regards, John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789 S/V Chagall |
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:08:41 GMT, John Proctor
wrote: 9 months winter and 3 months bad sleding (only joking rhys) Hey, I must be getting a rep as a touchy nationalist G. Hey, outside of B.C. it IS a short season practically everywhere (ever see a Star go over in Lake Ontario in May? Brrrr....). There's no denying reality, and Australia and New Zealand, too, are ideal sailing meccas. Also, on the east side of either you've rarely got a lee shore and the beer and ladies are constant companions. What's not to like? R. |
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:18:06 GMT, "Martin Woolwich"
wrote: But wife is Canadian and kids have Canadian nationality and won't hear of us going anywhere else. At least we both agree that we have to get out of the UK B.C. is your best bet then, but facilities are either scarce or overcrowded in many places. If you want less rain and no complicated tidal patterns, I recommend the lower Great Lakes. You can have challenging sailing in summer if you go out on stormy days, secure in the knowledge that it never lasts long. If you have heat in the cockpit and a steel hull, you can get "bubbler" slips here in Toronto that stay ice-free and conceivably get a nearly 12 month season. I know a steel ketch owner who logs New Year's Day without fail, and I've had excellent sails on the lake in March and November, when the wind will push even heavy displacement full-keelers easily. Ice is primarily inshore and the increasingly frequent warm spells means only close inshore or in boat basins does it form any sort of thickness...it's mostly "brash" ice. My boat is put on a cradle at the end of October and dropped around May 1st, but I take my Zodiac out most months excepting January and February. R. |
"rhys" wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:18:06 GMT, "Martin Woolwich" wrote: But wife is Canadian and kids have Canadian nationality and won't hear of us going anywhere else. At least we both agree that we have to get out of the UK B.C. is your best bet then, but facilities are either scarce or overcrowded in many places. If you want less rain and no complicated tidal patterns, I recommend the lower Great Lakes. You can have challenging sailing in summer if you go out on stormy days, secure in the knowledge that it never lasts long. snip On the other hand, if you like a low key, down home life and are partial to the Atlantic Ocean, the East Coast might be a good choice. Jobs are harder to come by, but if you have skills that are in demand.....Nova Scotia in particular is crying for more immigration. Our winters and spring can drag out...but we're only 7 days sail north of Bermuda. |
On 2005-02-20 08:13:38 +1100, rhys said:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:08:41 GMT, John Proctor wrote: 9 months winter and 3 months bad sleding (only joking rhys) Hey, I must be getting a rep as a touchy nationalist G. Hey, outside of B.C. it IS a short season practically everywhere (ever see a Star go over in Lake Ontario in May? Brrrr....). There's no denying reality, and Australia and New Zealand, too, are ideal sailing meccas. Also, on the east side of either you've rarely got a lee shore and the beer and ladies are constant companions. What's not to like? R. Rhys, I grew up in Hamilton and did my EE in Kingston at Queen's U. Lived in Ottawa after graduating and worked for BNR. I think it was the winter of 1971 that got us thinking about warmer climates and losing the snow. So with Wife and two kids in tow we went to Australia in 1977. Hell my 82 YO mother flys down here almost every year and loves the climate. The beers good but the wines well they are simply supurb!;-) -- Regards, John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789 S/V Chagall |
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 00:41:47 GMT, "Don White"
wrote: On the other hand, if you like a low key, down home life and are partial to the Atlantic Ocean, the East Coast might be a good choice. Jobs are harder to come by, but if you have skills that are in demand.....Nova Scotia in particular is crying for more immigration. Our winters and spring can drag out...but we're only 7 days sail north of Bermuda. This is true, but the economy is very spotty down East. Certain resource-based things are doable, and there's a Buddhist community in Halifax of all places that's solvent after years of struggle, but I believe there is still a net out-migration from the Maritimes to other parts of Canada or to the States. Ironically, I would imagine two of the most in-demand jobs would be call-centre management in Moncton/Fredericton, and house construction in Nova Scotia, as the Americans seem to be buying up large chunks of the oceanfront and building big houses on the land. R. |
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:39:09 GMT, John Proctor
wrote: Hell my 82 YO mother flys down here almost every year and loves the climate. I can believe it. If you've got in-demand skills, Australia's a great place to go. It's certainly in the top five sailing countries of the world. R. |
Coincidence ... just attended a workshop ... to make a point (the point was
do your research), the instructor used a pic of a new arrival in Halifax ... surprise to him ... GST (7%) was required on his $2 million boat. In general .... "Who pays GST/HST? Almost everyone has to pay GST at 7% or HST (bowgus note: hamonized sales tax is provincial plus gst) at 15% on taxable goods and services. The only groups or organizations that do not always pay GST or HST on their taxable purchases are provincial and territorial governments, and Indians." |
OT: Oh yeah ... when I retire in 2-3 years our destination is currently a
toss up between the west coast and Australia. We're currently in Ottawa which imo opinion is a great place to raise a family but geez ... I've done my time playin in the frikken snow :-) "bowgus" wrote in message ... Coincidence ... just attended a workshop ... to make a point (the point was do your research), the instructor used a pic of a new arrival in Halifax .... surprise to him ... GST (7%) was required on his $2 million boat. In general ... "Who pays GST/HST? Almost everyone has to pay GST at 7% or HST (bowgus note: hamonized sales tax is provincial plus gst) at 15% on taxable goods and services. The only groups or organizations that do not always pay GST or HST on their taxable purchases are provincial and territorial governments, and Indians." |
"rhys" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 00:41:47 GMT, "Don White" wrote: On the other hand, if you like a low key, down home life and are partial to the Atlantic Ocean, the East Coast might be a good choice. Jobs are harder to come by, but if you have skills that are in demand.....Nova Scotia in particular is crying for more immigration. Our winters and spring can drag out...but we're only 7 days sail north of Bermuda. This is true, but the economy is very spotty down East. Certain resource-based things are doable, and there's a Buddhist community in Halifax of all places that's solvent after years of struggle, but I believe there is still a net out-migration from the Maritimes to other parts of Canada or to the States. Ironically, I would imagine two of the most in-demand jobs would be call-centre management in Moncton/Fredericton, and house construction in Nova Scotia, as the Americans seem to be buying up large chunks of the oceanfront and building big houses on the land. R. Pretty low key in Nanaimo. Yesterday it was 13C / 55F and very sunny. Can't say this is typical for February but its always nice here in February than on the East coast. Not that many jobs around here though unless you are involved with new house construction. |
Thanks John,
My thinking too but at the moment my wife just won't consider it. The only thing we both agree is that we want to leave the UK "John Proctor" wrote in message news:2005021822084175249%lost@nowhereorg... On 2005-02-13 19:57:23 +1100, "Martin Woolwich" said: I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007. I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators licence. Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to make this vessel OK in Canada and me to pilot it? Forget any issue of transportation and power supplies etc, I have those bits under control Also I have identified a newsgroup called can.rec.boating which may be helpful to me but this is the first time I have ever tried to work with newsgroups and my news server does not find this. Any ideas (in layman's terms) how I might be able to connect to this group? Hope someone can help Slightly off topic but what the hell.... Martin, as a ex Canadian can I say that the best thing I did (and I am a slow learner) is that after 31 years of living in a climate that was 9 months winter and 3 months bad sleding (only joking rhys) I moved to Australia. I like my water in the liquid state and I can sail 365 days a year providing the weather is reasonable. A bad winter's day in Melbourne is 5-10 degrees C. Better in Sydney but more expensive berths ;-) -- Regards, John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789 S/V Chagall |
Martin Woolwich wrote:
Thanks John, My thinking too but at the moment my wife just won't consider it. The only thing we both agree is that we want to leave the UK "John Proctor" wrote in message news:2005021822084175249%lost@nowhereorg... On 2005-02-13 19:57:23 +1100, "Martin Woolwich" said: I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007. I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators licence. Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to make this vessel OK in Canada and me to pilot it? Forget any issue of transportation and power supplies etc, I have those bits under control Also I have identified a newsgroup called can.rec.boating which may be helpful to me but this is the first time I have ever tried to work with newsgroups and my news server does not find this. Any ideas (in layman's terms) how I might be able to connect to this group? Hope someone can help Slightly off topic but what the hell.... Martin, as a ex Canadian can I say that the best thing I did (and I am a slow learner) is that after 31 years of living in a climate that was 9 months winter and 3 months bad sleding (only joking rhys) I moved to Australia. I like my water in the liquid state and I can sail 365 days a year providing the weather is reasonable. A bad winter's day in Melbourne is 5-10 degrees C. Better in Sydney but more expensive berths ;-) -- Regards, John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789 S/V Chagall Try Perth western australia tis home away from heaven |
In canada you may register your boat with the Federal Government, or
with the province you live in. Registration with the Federal government is the equivalent to a Coast Guard Registration in the U.S. It is proof of ownership. For your size boat you will have to have its tonnage certified. Aside from that the charges are reasonable. This hasn't nothing to do with the taxes. A provincial registration is for purposes of using this boat in Canadian waters as a Canadian, and is mostly about paying GST and PST. I don't know what the handling is for someone coming to Canada. If you plan to sail in Canada, you should know where you are going in this country. Aside from the Atlantice Provinces and British Columbia, that boat is way too big for the country. I live in Ontario, and even on Lake Ontario, where draft isn't an issue, there are few boats over 35 feets. I've sailed across lake Ontario on a 20' boat. Ed |
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