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The End Is Near
Just got word from AOL that AOL is terminating all of their newsgroups. It was
nice knowing everyone in this group, even though there were way too many off topic postings. Anyway, farewell, and if you want to talk about boating or have a sea story oir a fish tale to tell, give me a call on the radio. You can listen on line at www.959watd.com or anytime during the week (most weeks - the blizzard knocked us off last week) at either www.959watd.com or www.massbayboating.com. Capt Lou "Listen to 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou on the web by clicking NAUTICAL NEWS at www.959watd.com. If you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to 95.9FM and tune in the live broadcast on Sunday afternoons between 4 - 5. |
Capt Lou wrote:
Just got word from AOL that AOL is terminating all of their newsgroups. It was nice knowing everyone in this group, even though there were way too many off topic postings. Anyway, farewell, and if you want to talk about boating or have a sea story oir a fish tale to tell, give me a call on the radio. You can listen on line at www.959watd.com or anytime during the week (most weeks - the blizzard knocked us off last week) at either www.959watd.com or www.massbayboating.com. Capt Lou "Listen to 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou on the web by clicking NAUTICAL NEWS at www.959watd.com. If you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to 95.9FM and tune in the live broadcast on Sunday afternoons between 4 - 5. Sounds like a hoax to me. I suppose they might want to limit usage, especially for binaries, but you can always get access yourself for a free or a modest charge. Why are you wasting money on AOL anyways? |
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:08:20 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:
I agree with Jeff. Get yourself a real ISP if AOL's serious about that. [I was an early adopter of AOL; I left when I found a full service ISP. ================================================== ===== Absolutely right, AOL is a poor substitute for the real thing. You may not need to leave them however. There used to be an option in the AOL logon options where you specify that you want a "Windows Socket" connection or words to that effect. That would enable you to use AOL for your EMAIL while actually connecting with something else (like a high speed cable connection or DSL service). Assuming that you get that working, you then need an independent newsreader like Free Agent: http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php If you are already connecting to AOL with cable or DSL, chance are that you have everything in place already except for installing a newsreader. |
Why are you wasting money on AOL anyways?
No need for that really. There are several free news servers that can be accessed from any ISP, including AOL, though I don't know which of them carry this group. Dave I wonder why I say with them myself. I've been paying them for 7 years, and ...for what reason I don't know. Their NewsGroup service is crappy.... SO CRAPPY I went and got a Google account and its been alot better. I can still (for the moment) post on AOL, but I don't usually mess with it. Tim |
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:08:20 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: I agree with Jeff. Get yourself a real ISP if AOL's serious about that. [I was an early adopter of AOL; I left when I found a full service ISP. ================================================== ===== Absolutely right, AOL is a poor substitute for the real thing. You may not need to leave them however. There used to be an option in the AOL logon options where you specify that you want a "Windows Socket" connection or words to that effect. That would enable you to use AOL for your EMAIL while actually connecting with something else (like a high speed cable connection or DSL service). Assuming that you get that working, you then need an independent newsreader like Free Agent: http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php If you are already connecting to AOL with cable or DSL, chance are that you have everything in place already except for installing a newsreader. Just dump AOL altogether. If you have an DSL or cable connection you get e-mail addresses. |
There are -so many- dialup services for $10, there's really no reason to
stay with any service that charges more. I thought that a news server was just -part- of what you're paying for, I've never paid anything additional for unlimited access in nearly a dozen years on the 'net. I don't know how many folks in this group were around during the "old days" when AOL nearly went belly up because of lousey customer support and service. Apparently, they haven't learned much from past mistakes... As far as recommendations go, I used Earthlink way back when their fee was less than $15, then switched to http://www.flex.com about 3 years ago when Earthlink jacked their rates up. Flex.com was one of the first to offer unlimited access for less than $10, and I haven't found a good reason to drop them yet. Only negative is that they offer -no technical support-. None, nada, zip. If you have a problem and it's not the host's fault, you're on your own. Since I've been doing this kind of stuff since the 80's, I really don't use tech support much anyways. But there are plenty of other services that offer unlimited access -and- newsgroups for about $10. Shop around. Changing email addresses is a hassle, no doubt. Why not set yourself up with an account at Hotmail or Yahoo? That way you're free to move from one service to the next, getting the best deal/service you can, and keep the same email address. Good luck, Paul |
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:43:04 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: Absolutely right, AOL is a poor substitute for the real thing. You may not need to leave them however. There used to be an option in the AOL logon options where you specify that you want a "Windows Socket" connection or words to that effect. That would enable you to use AOL for your EMAIL while actually connecting with something else (like a high speed cable connection or DSL service). Assuming that you get that working, you then need an independent newsreader like Free Agent: http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php If you are already connecting to AOL with cable or DSL, chance are that you have everything in place already except for installing a newsreader. Ten years ago when I was doing service calls for an early independent ISP, we used to call AOL "Assholes On Line", because only the stupid or the unwilling to learn would get sucked into using it. They also produced the most ignorant calls to our help desk. We used to say that AOL wasn't the Internet...it was a discount mall out on the highway leading away from the Internet. I see no reason to change my opinion, despite the hundreds of coasters AOL has sent me over the years. I use Free Agent, Eudora and Firefox. No Microsoft, no AOL, no spam, no pop-ups. It's almost as peaceful as sailing. R. |
I don't know about Hotmail or Yahoo but I do know that Google's new G-Mail
will allow you to access it via POP3 and SMTP if you want to. -- Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin Cape Breton Island, Canada kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca "Dave" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:54:49 -1000, "renewontime dot com" said: Why not set yourself up with an account at Hotmail or Yahoo? You've figured out how to access a free Hotmail account via POP3 and SMTP? Please tell. |
Why not set yourself up
with an account at Hotmail or Yahoo? You've figured out how to access a free Hotmail account via POP3 and SMTP? Please tell. To send/receive Hotmail via POP3/SMTP using Outlook Express 6, try this: Tools, Email Accounts -- Add A New Email Account -- Server Type select HTTP -- Under Server Information just select Hotmail from the drop down menu. Enter all the other details. Click next and you are done. I set this up a while back for a client and it worked. Give it a try and let us know if it worked for you. For Yahoo and others, you can try this: http://www.jmasoftware.com/english/index.html I've never tried this, haven't had anyone ask before... Hope this helps, Paul |
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Dave wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:54:49 -1000, "renewontime dot com" said: Why not set yourself up with an account at Hotmail or Yahoo? You've figured out how to access a free Hotmail account via POP3 and SMTP? Please tell. Easy: Just set the Yahoo mailbox to forward to your current ISP. Been years since I had one of their addresses, but I expect they still have the option. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
Dave wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:52:11 GMT, Jere Lull said: Easy: Just set the Yahoo mailbox to forward to your current ISP. Been years since I had one of their addresses, but I expect they still have the option. OK, how do I get a Yahoo mailbox for a Hotmail account? I don't know why you're messing around with hotmail or yahoo. You can get your own domain and and email hosting for $18 a year. Make up an infinite number of email names, etc. Add a website for another $24 a year. |
On 28 Jan 2005 09:47:03 -0600, Dave wrote:
Doubtful, as Eudora like most spam fighting programs relies on filtering out the posts you don't want. Only way to have no spam is with the type of system I use--no mail gets in unless I have approved the sender in advance. That's not entirely correct. You can train a Bayesian filter-style of "spam catcher", and you can own your own domain and remotely set mail server parameters, and you can use a router and firewall. Now, about one spam a week. I used to get 300 a day, thanks to newsgroup trolling, but as my domain advertises my business, it's easier to block this stuff in the first place. Changing who hosts my mail made a huge difference. R. |
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:44:01 -0500, Jeff Morris
wrote: I don't know why you're messing around with hotmail or yahoo. You can get your own domain and and email hosting for $18 a year. Make up an infinite number of email names, etc. Add a website for another $24 a year. Exactly. And if you don't need to access that domain on the road, you can restrict your domain "origin point" with your ISP so that if mail with your domain didn't come from their POP server, it's nuked. That means it become very difficult to "spoof" your address and domain. It's sometimes called an SPF...Sender Policy Framework. Kills spam appearing to originate with you dead. R. |
Dave wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:44:01 -0500, Jeff Morris said: I don't know why you're messing around with hotmail or yahoo. You can get your own domain and and email hosting for $18 a year. Make up an infinite number of email names, etc. Add a website for another $24 a year. Actually, I have a perfectly good e-mail account with my ISP. Unfortunately when my wife got her new computer she was in such a hurry to get e-mail set up that she didn't want to wait for me to get the connection information from the office to set her up with her own mailbox, so she activated the AOL service that came with the computer and is free for a couple of months. (Obviously, it will be cancelled as soon as the free period ends.) I did prevail on her not to use AOL's e-mail, and set her up with a Hotmail account so it would survive the AOL cancellation. Now she's frustrated with the web interface. I've set her up with her own mailbox on our ISP and am setting up Outlook Express to access that account. But until she makes the transition there is still a need to access the Hotmail account, so I was looking for a way to set that up in OE. All that makes sense, but when you change ISP (or even if they change their name) your email account changes. By owning your own domain, you can be and and use any isp you want. You still get to use any pop3 program, plus you can get http access to the mail server. I make up a new "name" whenever I give out my email - all of the random names get dumped into the same box, but I can tell if someone gave my addy away, and I can filter them. You can do a variety of other things, like forwarding. All for $1.50 a month. I was particularly glad I had set this up when half the people in my town had their email addy changed not once, but twice in a year. The one thing of value that AOL seems to do is spam filtering - I've had to ante up for Norton's AntiSpam, because the freebie programs, including the one from my domain host, aren't good enough. The only problem I have now is that I always have to name my boat "Loki"! |
No problemo, Cap'n Lou. Go to www.usenetserver.com and buy an unlimited
access account for $14.95/month. No GB limit, no restrictions. Binaries are always as complete as uploaded. Connections to the rest of the planet are great and retention on this newsgroup is measured on years, not days. (Capt Lou) wrote in : Just got word from AOL that AOL is terminating all of their newsgroups. It was nice knowing everyone in this group, even though there were way too many off topic postings. Anyway, farewell, and if you want to talk about boating or have a sea story oir a fish tale to tell, give me a call on the radio. You can listen on line at www.959watd.com or anytime during the week (most weeks - the blizzard knocked us off last week) at either www.959watd.com or www.massbayboating.com. Capt Lou "Listen to 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou on the web by clicking NAUTICAL NEWS at www.959watd.com. If you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to 95.9FM and tune in the live broadcast on Sunday afternoons between 4 - 5. |
He can get ample text downloads for much less than than, and he probably
already has free access if he has broadband. Larry W4CSC wrote: No problemo, Cap'n Lou. Go to www.usenetserver.com and buy an unlimited access account for $14.95/month. No GB limit, no restrictions. Binaries are always as complete as uploaded. Connections to the rest of the planet are great and retention on this newsgroup is measured on years, not days. (Capt Lou) wrote in : Just got word from AOL that AOL is terminating all of their newsgroups. It was nice knowing everyone in this group, even though there were way too many off topic postings. Anyway, farewell, and if you want to talk about boating or have a sea story oir a fish tale to tell, give me a call on the radio. You can listen on line at www.959watd.com or anytime during the week (most weeks - the blizzard knocked us off last week) at either www.959watd.com or www.massbayboating.com. Capt Lou "Listen to 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou on the web by clicking NAUTICAL NEWS at www.959watd.com. If you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to 95.9FM and tune in the live broadcast on Sunday afternoons between 4 - 5. |
Dave wrote in
: On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:47:04 GMT, Larry W4CSC said: No GB limit, no restrictions. Now quite. You're limited to one connection at a time, which limits the speed of multithreading download programs. Still faster than Newscene's unlimited download option, though. Nope....6 simultaneous ports. Your limit is your download bandwidth on broadband. Using more than one port for more bandwidth makes no difference on usenetserver.com. It shoves 320KB (bytes not bits) through one port, here. That's the cap on my cable. Delays getting the next message in a multipart binary is milliseconds with Xnews, which is free. I'm offloading my 360GB hard drive stack to DVD+R as I type this...(sigh) I think completeness is more important than multiple ports and usenetserver.com finally got its act together on completeness in its feeds. |
"Ken Heaton" wrote in message news:MVhKd.52907$Qb.12309@edtnps89... I don't know about Hotmail or Yahoo but I do know that Google's new G-Mail will allow you to access it via POP3 and SMTP if you want to. -- Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin Cape Breton Island, Canada kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca Hi Ken...good to see you're still around. Remember the Silver Donald Cameron video on cruising the Bras d'Or Lakes?? I went to the main branch of the halifax library and borrowed it. At the tail end was a 1-800 number to call if you wanted a copy. I called and a company in Sydney answered. The lady seemed supprised and wanted to know how I found their number. They did have still have copies and mailed me one for around $35.00. |
Dave wrote in
: On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:03:29 GMT, Larry W4CSC said: I think completeness is more important than multiple ports and usenetserver.com finally got its act together on completeness in its feeds. I agree on the completeness point. Glad to hear they got their act together. The news farms seem to have a history of catching up and then falling behind as usage increases. The one on top today may be on the bottom in 6 months. I've been tempted from time to time to switch, but in the long run I'm not sure it would make sense. I helped Knology Cable betatest their own news server. The heavy downloaders were asked to trash it. We did...(c; So, the company decided to buy Usenetserver.com's ISP service, instead. It's been great and is included with my $55 monthly service. I see no reason to even have internet without Usenet. Everything else is just another advertising scheme like TV or Radio has become....useless. I don't even own a TV any more. I don't pay to watch advertising. It's the reason I don't go to the boatshow. How stupid to pay $8 for a ticket and $4 for parking to see nothing but dealers trying to sell me something. If they want to sell me a house, I don't have to pay to ride around in the real estate company's SUV. Why do I have to pay to look at boats?....(c; |
Glad you found the tape in the end. Was it Breton Books you bought it from?
Just curious. I haven't been on the news groups as much lately. We were away to Australia, New Zealand and Hawaii for a month and a half in the fall and then back in time for the Christmas rush, and a short jaunt to Halifax. Things are settling down now, just shovelling a lot of snow. -- Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin Cape Breton Island, Canada kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca "Don White" wrote in message ... "Ken Heaton" wrote in message news:MVhKd.52907$Qb.12309@edtnps89... I don't know about Hotmail or Yahoo but I do know that Google's new G-Mail will allow you to access it via POP3 and SMTP if you want to. -- Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin Cape Breton Island, Canada kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca Hi Ken...good to see you're still around. Remember the Silver Donald Cameron video on cruising the Bras d'Or Lakes?? I went to the main branch of the halifax library and borrowed it. At the tail end was a 1-800 number to call if you wanted a copy. I called and a company in Sydney answered. The lady seemed supprised and wanted to know how I found their number. They did have still have copies and mailed me one for around $35.00. |
"Ken Heaton" wrote in message news:kxbLd.79361$Qb.52847@edtnps89... Glad you found the tape in the end. Was it Breton Books you bought it from? Just curious. I haven't been on the news groups as much lately. We were away to Australia, New Zealand and Hawaii for a month and a half in the fall and then back in time for the Christmas rush, and a short jaunt to Halifax. Things are settling down now, just shovelling a lot of snow. -- Can't remember...they had sent a small glossy brochure listing other publications & tapes for sale, but the wife can't wait to toss anything that's not nailed or stapled down. On my MasterCard statement, the vendor shows up as...... 'Cape Breton's Magazine Cape Breton Can' Do any boating in the South Pacific? Ever since Marlon Brando's 'Mutiny on the Bounty' I've fantasized about sailing French Polynesia. I'd better do it soon, or I'll be too old to enjoy the island women! |
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:45:04 GMT, Larry W4CSC wrote:
It's the reason I don't go to the boatshow. How stupid to pay $8 for a ticket and $4 for parking to see nothing but dealers trying to sell me something. If they want to sell me a house, I don't have to pay to ride around in the real estate company's SUV. Why do I have to pay to look at boats?....(c; I never pay. I go to the "media office" and tell them I'm doing a story for the local rag and should be let in with a media pass. Alternatively, I say I'm a volunteer for my yacht club's info booth. Like you, I won't pay to shop. Frequently, I'm just there to sneer at the Catabens and Dugregors anyway. I did see a nice Hanse 41, but it had too much "gracious living" space versus proper stowage and tankage. Maybe it's good for offshore, but you'd die of thirst and run out of fuel... But the crappiness of current boats for anything but 15 knots on sunny days is another story entirely. Let's say boat shows are not great places to see proper boats, excepting the latest class dinghies and the J-boats, which I always enjoy for their commitment to going fast over going de luxe. R. |
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:34:24 GMT, "Ken Heaton"
wrote: Glad you found the tape in the end. Was it Breton Books you bought it from? Just curious. I haven't been on the news groups as much lately. We were away to Australia, New Zealand and Hawaii for a month and a half in the fall and then back in time for the Christmas rush, and a short jaunt to Halifax. Things are settling down now, just shovelling a lot of snow. Do you know Silver Donald, and is he still sailing little boats in big air? I've read two of his sailing books...one where he circles "The Acadian Sea" and the other where he circumnavigates Cape Breton...and enjoyed both. Hope he's still hoisting something...G |
Cape Breton's magazine & Breton Books are run by the some two people. A
good source for local books & tapes. No, I don't have the pleasure of knowing Mr. Cameron personally but have also read many of his books and articles. Here's a short note on his new boat and what he hopes to do with it: http://www.islemadame.com/sdc/pumpkin/ -- Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin Cape Breton Island, Canada kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca "rhys" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:34:24 GMT, "Ken Heaton" wrote: Glad you found the tape in the end. Was it Breton Books you bought it from? Just curious. I haven't been on the news groups as much lately. We were away to Australia, New Zealand and Hawaii for a month and a half in the fall and then back in time for the Christmas rush, and a short jaunt to Halifax. Things are settling down now, just shovelling a lot of snow. Do you know Silver Donald, and is he still sailing little boats in big air? I've read two of his sailing books...one where he circles "The Acadian Sea" and the other where he circumnavigates Cape Breton...and enjoyed both. Hope he's still hoisting something...G |
Thanks, Ken. Looks like the man's still on his game.
R. On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 02:45:15 GMT, "Ken Heaton" wrote: Cape Breton's magazine & Breton Books are run by the some two people. A good source for local books & tapes. No, I don't have the pleasure of knowing Mr. Cameron personally but have also read many of his books and articles. Here's a short note on his new boat and what he hopes to do with it: http://www.islemadame.com/sdc/pumpkin/ |
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