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Doug, I'm sorry but I find this statement funny. I doubt the FBI has the stomach to monitor this newsgroup. I wouldn't take long to figure out it was a waste of their time. Paul Doug Dotson wrote: snipped THIS IS PURELY HYPOTHETICAL. I have nothing to hide, jeez. You'd better. I hope that the Homeland Security and the FBI see it that way. I happen to know that they monitor alot of these newsgroups including this one. snipped |
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Apparently they either have an interest or too much time on their
hands. But then again, when has any government organization had any adversion to wasting time "Paul Schilter" wrote in message ... Doug, I'm sorry but I find this statement funny. I doubt the FBI has the stomach to monitor this newsgroup. I wouldn't take long to figure out it was a waste of their time. Paul Doug Dotson wrote: snipped THIS IS PURELY HYPOTHETICAL. I have nothing to hide, jeez. You'd better. I hope that the Homeland Security and the FBI see it that way. I happen to know that they monitor alot of these newsgroups including this one. snipped |
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THIS IS PURELY HYPOTHETICAL. I have nothing to hide, jeez. I'm bored enough on a Saturday night to get into this one... IMO, how easy it would or wouldn't be to just disappear depends on the circumstances. If you're a fugitive being sought, it might not be that easy...but if you're someone who just wants to escape his life, it should be very easy. Just buy a boat without telling anyone...tell your friends and family that you have to go to Chicago, St, Louis, Paris--anywhere but out to sea--for a week...set sail instead...giving you at least a week's head start in a direction no one would ever look in...and even when they do think of checking on your boat--the one everyone knows you own--it'll still be in her slip. You could be anywhere in the world before anyone figured out how or when you left, or which direction to look. By then you've grown a beard, dyed your hair, lost 20 lbs...the only thing that might give away your location is any record of the places in which you've had to show your passport. But if you're REALLY determined to disappear, it's not that hard these days to get a new passport under a new name. Unless you're a fugitive, no one would ever have any reason to question its legitimacy. The only real issue would be money...but anyone planning such a move should be smart enough to quietly start transferring funds to an offshore account in an untraceable manner (convert to cash, deposit only that cash to offshore account) months or even years ahead of time. IOW, anyone who really wants to disappear can do it with some planning. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1 |
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It is really quite simple and low-tech. You can guarantee you will not
be found only if you are not there! Go out, sink the boat, come back in, and go anywhere but where they will be searching for you. Or, go out, turn around, and return to port well before the 36 hours. Eventually the boat will be found, but that will only mean that at some point in time you were somewhere in the world. Not very much to go on. If you have trouble with this answer, I think you have some other agenda. True, someone might want to disappear. But you've posed a problem in which someone wants to disappear using an empty gum wrapper, yesterday's newspaper, and a half-eaten bagel on a day when the temperature is over 72 degrees! And then you want to discuss at length the reflective properties of foil-backed gum wrappers? If your question were strictly technical, the "disappearing" scenario would be superfluous since you could just ask about visual and radar detection of various hull signatures. Peggie Hall wrote in : wrote: THIS IS PURELY HYPOTHETICAL. I have nothing to hide, jeez. I'm bored enough on a Saturday night to get into this one... IMO, how easy it would or wouldn't be to just disappear depends on the circumstances. If you're a fugitive being sought, it might not be that easy...but if you're someone who just wants to escape his life, it should be very easy. Just buy a boat without telling anyone...tell your friends and family that you have to go to Chicago, St, Louis, Paris--anywhere but out to sea--for a week...set sail instead...giving you at least a week's head start in a direction no one would ever look in...and even when they do think of checking on your boat--the one everyone knows you own--it'll still be in her slip. You could be anywhere in the world before anyone figured out how or when you left, or which direction to look. By then you've grown a beard, dyed your hair, lost 20 lbs...the only thing that might give away your location is any record of the places in which you've had to show your passport. But if you're REALLY determined to disappear, it's not that hard these days to get a new passport under a new name. Unless you're a fugitive, no one would ever have any reason to question its legitimacy. The only real issue would be money...but anyone planning such a move should be smart enough to quietly start transferring funds to an offshore account in an untraceable manner (convert to cash, deposit only that cash to offshore account) months or even years ahead of time. IOW, anyone who really wants to disappear can do it with some planning. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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WaIIy wrote:
Any cash withdrawal of $10,000 or more gets reported to the federal government. If I recall correctly, a few years ago there was some deal to report "unusual activity" of anyone's account to the feds. ahh...the land of the free! |
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Aha!!!!!!! Who were you in your other life? Jimmy Hoffa? ;)
G "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... wrote: THIS IS PURELY HYPOTHETICAL. I have nothing to hide, jeez. I'm bored enough on a Saturday night to get into this one... IMO, how easy it would or wouldn't be to just disappear depends on the circumstances. If you're a fugitive being sought, it might not be that easy...but if you're someone who just wants to escape his life, it should be very easy. Just buy a boat without telling anyone...tell your friends and family that you have to go to Chicago, St, Louis, Paris--anywhere but out to sea--for a week...set sail instead...giving you at least a week's head start in a direction no one would ever look in...and even when they do think of checking on your boat--the one everyone knows you own--it'll still be in her slip. You could be anywhere in the world before anyone figured out how or when you left, or which direction to look. By then you've grown a beard, dyed your hair, lost 20 lbs...the only thing that might give away your location is any record of the places in which you've had to show your passport. But if you're REALLY determined to disappear, it's not that hard these days to get a new passport under a new name. Unless you're a fugitive, no one would ever have any reason to question its legitimacy. The only real issue would be money...but anyone planning such a move should be smart enough to quietly start transferring funds to an offshore account in an untraceable manner (convert to cash, deposit only that cash to offshore account) months or even years ahead of time. IOW, anyone who really wants to disappear can do it with some planning. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1 |
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Doug,
Yeah you do have a point there. :-) Paul Doug Dotson wrote: Apparently they either have an interest or too much time on their hands. But then again, when has any government organization had any adversion to wasting time "Paul Schilter" wrote in message ... Doug, I'm sorry but I find this statement funny. I doubt the FBI has the stomach to monitor this newsgroup. I wouldn't take long to figure out it was a waste of their time. Paul Doug Dotson wrote: snipped THIS IS PURELY HYPOTHETICAL. I have nothing to hide, jeez. You'd better. I hope that the Homeland Security and the FBI see it that way. I happen to know that they monitor alot of these newsgroups including this one. snipped |
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Doug,
Aren't most cockpits self bailing? So in order to flood the cockpit wouldn't you have to flood the engine room? Which would amount to sinking the boat. I speaking of a power boat. Paul Doug Dotson wrote: Why would the engines care about flooding the cockpit? "Paul Schilter" wrote in message ... dbohara, This is funny, if you used the space blanket with the reflective side out you'd light up like a bulb on the radar screen. I believe stealth technology is based on absorbing the energy and then having acute angles on the surface so the reflection that is left is diverted away. Floods his cockpit? I don't think the engines would like this. The solution is LEAD!!! Construct the whole boat of LEAD!!! :-) Paul wrote: snipped THIS IS PURELY HYPOTHETICAL. I have nothing to hide, jeez. Really, all this is about is my belief that some people are so reliant on high tech stuff that they forget about elegant low tech solutions. Would covering the entire boat with an aluminized "space blanket" with no exposed edges or folds reduce the radar cross section much? I assume the metal shrouds produce significant radar return so they are a problem unless he somehow replaced them. We can assume that he either doesnt run his engine or that he floods his cockpit partway to hide the engine IR signature. Go fast boats are probably easier to see than a small sailboat as their power output is so high. |
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