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Roger Long December 27th 04 09:36 PM

Hey! That's my quote:)

An incredible proportion of abandoned vessels are later found floating.
They may be waterlogged but they are a lot more solid than a liferaft.
Schooner Curlew 1962 is another famous example.

--

Roger Long


"...never leave the boat except to step up into the liferaft!)

R.




Roger Long December 27th 04 09:42 PM

I didn't get a hit on that google suggestion. I know the real story and
have met some of the people involved but I would enjoy reading the account.
Can you provide a link?

--

Roger Long


Just kidding: I have great respect for a boat that Ferenc Mate can't
insult and that survived The Perfect Storm without a crew (google
"Perfect Storm and Katana" for the REAL story...never leave the boat
except to step up into the liferaft!)

R.




JAXAshby December 27th 04 09:57 PM

That Westsail you speak did NOT survive the "Perfect Storm", for it wasn't
anywhere near the Perfect Storm. That Westsail was off Montauk in 40 knot
winds. No great shakes, even if two inexperienced crew were scared.

survived The Perfect Storm




Skip Gundlach December 27th 04 10:56 PM

Katari - and the original author removed it from the web. You'll have to do
some extra research to find the story - but, aside from it's being very
defensive and self serving by the captain who let the two girls get on the
radio, it's a pretty good read.

L8R

Skip

--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig
http://tinyurl.com/384p2

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
I didn't get a hit on that google suggestion. I know the real story and
have met some of the people involved but I would enjoy reading the

account.
Can you provide a link?

--

Roger Long


Just kidding: I have great respect for a boat that Ferenc Mate can't
insult and that survived The Perfect Storm without a crew (google
"Perfect Storm and Katana" for the REAL story...never leave the boat
except to step up into the liferaft!)

R.






Skip Gundlach December 27th 04 11:06 PM

Oops. Satori...

http://world.std.com/~kent/satori/

--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig
http://tinyurl.com/384p2

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
I didn't get a hit on that google suggestion. I know the real story and
have met some of the people involved but I would enjoy reading the

account.
Can you provide a link?

--

Roger Long


Just kidding: I have great respect for a boat that Ferenc Mate can't
insult and that survived The Perfect Storm without a crew (google
"Perfect Storm and Katana" for the REAL story...never leave the boat
except to step up into the liferaft!)

R.






rhys December 28th 04 06:50 PM

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:42:15 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

I didn't get a hit on that google suggestion. I know the real story and
have met some of the people involved but I would enjoy reading the account.
Can you provide a link?


My error: Katana's the name of another boat that hit a storm and lived
to sail again. The boat's name was "Satori" and here's the relevant
link:

http://world.std.com/~kent/satori/

R.


Roger Long December 28th 04 07:20 PM

With the benefit of some professional involvement in sailing vessel safety
and accident investigation, I found his account quite convincing. I would
fault him only for failure to control the use of the radio.

--

Roger Long



"rhys" wrote in message
...
My error: Katana's the name of another boat that hit a storm and lived
to sail again. The boat's name was "Satori" and here's the relevant
link:

http://world.std.com/~kent/satori/

R.




akcarlos December 29th 04 08:53 AM

Is the wind really that low in the states?
It is regularly gets above 30 knots here, the most I have sailed in
in the Hauraki gulf is 55 knots (thats the marine forecast not my
guessing)
at the moment it is gusting to 40 knots .
"
Colville coastal forecast

Issued at: 4:40 pm 29 Dec 2004 NZDT
Valid to: 11:59 am 30 Dec 2004 NZDT
Forecast
*GALE WARNING IN FORCE*
Northeast rising to 40 knots this evening. Sea very rough. Northerly
swell rising to 3 metres. Poor visibility in rain.
Outlook
following 12 hours: Becoming northwest 25 knots."
http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/...olvillecoastal


rhys December 29th 04 03:36 PM

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:20:29 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

With the benefit of some professional involvement in sailing vessel safety
and accident investigation, I found his account quite convincing. I would
fault him only for failure to control the use of the radio.


Yes, that's what I got from it. He was good on sailing the boat and
keeping his OWN nerve, but for whatever reason (bad judgment in taking
newbie crew aboard in the first place?) he could neither convey this
to the crew nor control them by example.

Whatever the dynamics were (and I can't blame anyone inexperienced for
losing it in appalling conditions), it's a tribute to the Westsail 32
that it rode out the storm and was salvaged by its owner (dumb luck!)
to continue to have a good life as a famous little tank of a sailboat.

R.

rhys December 29th 04 03:37 PM

That reminds me to check out the Sydney-Hobart results. With all the
tsunami news, it's fallen off the news radar.

On 29 Dec 2004 00:53:27 -0800, "akcarlos"
wrote:

Is the wind really that low in the states?
It is regularly gets above 30 knots here, the most I have sailed in
in the Hauraki gulf is 55 knots (thats the marine forecast not my
guessing)
at the moment it is gusting to 40 knots .
"
Colville coastal forecast

Issued at: 4:40 pm 29 Dec 2004 NZDT
Valid to: 11:59 am 30 Dec 2004 NZDT
Forecast
*GALE WARNING IN FORCE*
Northeast rising to 40 knots this evening. Sea very rough. Northerly
swell rising to 3 metres. Poor visibility in rain.
Outlook
following 12 hours: Becoming northwest 25 knots."
http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/...olvillecoastal




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