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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 03:05:56 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote: 12 average or 12 max? What I'm talking about here is 12 foot, wind driven waves, average height so that wave after wave is in the twelve foot range. That sort of wave is going to be pretty rare on Lake Erie. You'd have to be at the wrong end during a *sustained* big blow from a steady direction. While this is possible, the maximum you are likely to see is 6 feet, with 2 to 3 feet being the average windy day, depending on fetch, proximity to shore and reflection from the shore. Having said that, lake waves are nasty, more chaotic and bumpier than any ocean conditions I've experienced. The movement can be very tiring...luckily, everything's over pretty quickly in line squalls and you rarely lose control of your boat if you know how to sail in the first place. R. |
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:00:32 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:31:58 GMT, "Roger Long" wrote: If a breeze feels twice as strong as one we know to be 15 knots, most people would call it 30 knots whereas it would actually only be 21. ============================= Somewhere between 30 and 35 knots the wind begins to rip off the wave tops and send them through the air like the stream from a fire hose. I've found it to be an infallible guide to near gale force conditions. Also, the rigging begins to howl like a banshee in that wind range and above. That's a good rule of thumb. By sitting at dock on squally days, you can compare the "note" of howling rigging to anenometer readings. That's how I can tell over 30 knots...it gets pretty damned noisy and stuff not secured begins to leave the boat. If you are close to shore, however, on a beam reach relative to shore and coming from there, you get lots of wind sound and a lot less water sound, because you can have 40 knots and 2 feet of waves. That's why lake sailing is fun because you can train your ear in less "uncontrolled" conditions. R. |
JAXAshby wrote:
Somewhere between 30 and 35 knots the wind begins to rip off the wave tops and send them through the air like the stream from a fire hose. I have sailed upwind in winds of 42+ and gusting and have never seen the "tops ripped off the waves". I have also walked up on the foredeck up close and personal in 35 knot winds to take down one sail and put up another and have never seen the "tops ripped off the waves". I have also sailed offshore in 40+ knot winds and have never seen the "tops ripped off waves". Maybe my eyesight has gone all to hell? Now Jax, don't be such an idgit, dood. PC based sailing simulated 40+ knot winds don't count. Ask your wife (after you re-inflate her that is) if some day you can go for a ride on a REAL boat. Dood, you have to get out on a real boat...computer silumations are not the same thing. You'll see waves and birds and all kinds of things if you can get a ride on somebodies boat some day. Any volunteers want to take Jaxie Dood for a sail? He'll stay outside in case he gets scared and urinates by accident. It only happened twice using the simulator but you can't be too careful. Let's have a show of hands. |
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Hey Jaxie DOOD, I got to level 1800 offshore a long time ago!
If you use a joystick instead of a mouse you can trim the cyber jib faster and it's way kewl. But it works like a real tiller so you got to be aware that left is right and right is left. Use a joystick and you'll get to level 2000 or even more. Hey Dood, did you try to lean way over in your chair when the program said you were heeling? If you do that it almost feels like a real boat but you gotta lean WAAAAY over and it's kinda scary just like on a real boat! Maybe even wear a speedo and splash a little water around while yelling "batten down the hatches" or some other suitable nautical talk. You can find lot's of nautical talk online too, but you already knew that of course. It makes pretending SO much easier. Plus there is a way kewl help file full of nautical sayings you can use. Mind you, you have to be really careful when you lean over in the chair like that Dood. I did it too far (Cyber squall was set to stun) and I fell right offa the chair! "MAN OVERBOARD" I yelled. Wow it was scary. I felt like such a idgit. If you try it Dood, make sure you inflate your wifie and put her on the floor beside you (to leeward!) so you have something squishy to land on. Plus she'll give you positive floatation. Then you can come here and tell everybody about how you fell overboard and your inflatable saved you! Later DOOD! JAXAshby wrote: dood, I just did 1,800 miles offshore. how about you? From: James Date: 12/22/2004 7:36 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: JAXAshby wrote: Somewhere between 30 and 35 knots the wind begins to rip off the wave tops and send them through the air like the stream from a fire hose. I have sailed upwind in winds of 42+ and gusting and have never seen the "tops ripped off the waves". I have also walked up on the foredeck up close and personal in 35 knot winds to take down one sail and put up another and have never seen the "tops ripped off the waves". I have also sailed offshore in 40+ knot winds and have never seen the "tops ripped off waves". Maybe my eyesight has gone all to hell? Now Jax, don't be such an idgit, dood. PC based sailing simulated 40+ knot winds don't count. Ask your wife (after you re-inflate her that is) if some day you can go for a ride on a REAL boat. Dood, you have to get out on a real boat...computer silumations are not the same thing. You'll see waves and birds and all kinds of things if you can get a ride on somebodies boat some day. Any volunteers want to take Jaxie Dood for a sail? He'll stay outside in case he gets scared and urinates by accident. It only happened twice using the simulator but you can't be too careful. Let's have a show of hands. |
don't give up your day job, either of you. At least do not if you want to
sleep indoors most nights and eat more or less regularly. From: WaIIy Date: 12/23/2004 12:54 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:36:05 -0500, James wrote: Now Jax, don't be such an idgit, dood. PC based sailing simulated 40+ knot winds don't count. Ask your wife (after you re-inflate her that is) if some day you can go for a ride on a REAL boat. Dood, you have to get out on a real boat...computer silumations are not the same thing. You'll see waves and birds and all kinds of things if you can get a ride on somebodies boat some day. Any volunteers want to take Jaxie Dood for a sail? He'll stay outside in case he gets scared and urinates by accident. It only happened twice using the simulator but you can't be too careful. Let's have a show of hands. You should get a job writing comedy. This is too funny. |
last month, jimmie. you wouldn't like it, jimmie. the waves got near three
feet high at one point and the winds howled at upwards of 18 knots. scair eeeee for bathtubs sailors like you who think that floating a rubber duck is an opportunity to spank the monkey while claiming to be doing britney spears. From: James Date: 12/23/2004 3:23 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: Hey Jaxie DOOD, I got to level 1800 offshore a long time ago! If you use a joystick instead of a mouse you can trim the cyber jib faster and it's way kewl. But it works like a real tiller so you got to be aware that left is right and right is left. Use a joystick and you'll get to level 2000 or even more. Hey Dood, did you try to lean way over in your chair when the program said you were heeling? If you do that it almost feels like a real boat but you gotta lean WAAAAY over and it's kinda scary just like on a real boat! Maybe even wear a speedo and splash a little water around while yelling "batten down the hatches" or some other suitable nautical talk. You can find lot's of nautical talk online too, but you already knew that of course. It makes pretending SO much easier. Plus there is a way kewl help file full of nautical sayings you can use. Mind you, you have to be really careful when you lean over in the chair like that Dood. I did it too far (Cyber squall was set to stun) and I fell right offa the chair! "MAN OVERBOARD" I yelled. Wow it was scary. I felt like such a idgit. If you try it Dood, make sure you inflate your wifie and put her on the floor beside you (to leeward!) so you have something squishy to land on. Plus she'll give you positive floatation. Then you can come here and tell everybody about how you fell overboard and your inflatable saved you! Later DOOD! JAXAshby wrote: dood, I just did 1,800 miles offshore. how about you? From: James Date: 12/22/2004 7:36 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: JAXAshby wrote: Somewhere between 30 and 35 knots the wind begins to rip off the wave tops and send them through the air like the stream from a fire hose. I have sailed upwind in winds of 42+ and gusting and have never seen the "tops ripped off the waves". I have also walked up on the foredeck up close and personal in 35 knot winds to take down one sail and put up another and have never seen the "tops ripped off the waves". I have also sailed offshore in 40+ knot winds and have never seen the "tops ripped off waves". Maybe my eyesight has gone all to hell? Now Jax, don't be such an idgit, dood. PC based sailing simulated 40+ knot winds don't count. Ask your wife (after you re-inflate her that is) if some day you can go for a ride on a REAL boat. Dood, you have to get out on a real boat...computer silumations are not the same thing. You'll see waves and birds and all kinds of things if you can get a ride on somebodies boat some day. Any volunteers want to take Jaxie Dood for a sail? He'll stay outside in case he gets scared and urinates by accident. It only happened twice using the simulator but you can't be too careful. Let's have a show of hands. |
JAXAshby wrote:
Tell us about upwind in 42+. What sails were you flying and on what kind of boat? a.) just a small jib. b.) a sloop Hey Jaxie DOOOD, you are being some kinda idgit or something. You forgot to answer question C)Did you soil your speedos? Wayne was good enought to ask..it would be rude for you to answer him. Or maybe you're just being a fumb duck (again)? |
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