Again, what's your point? Are you saying you're scared ****less to even
consider boating there? We know that already.

JAXAshby wrote:
note the shoaling that shows up even from space. the inlet is at the bottom,
the canal at the top

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...6784661&cpy=40.
86638711&usgs_res=14&provider_id=200&t=pan


here is one in color. note the shoaling, and the path needed to be taken inlet
to canal

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...12&uly=4530610
.896&zone=18&res=15&provider_id=504&t=pan

another showing some of the shoaling obvious from space. zoom out if you wish.

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...9852&cpy=40.86
489851&res=8&provider_id=320&t=pan

Links don't work.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Again, what's your point? Are you saying you're scared ****less to even
consider boating there? We know that already.

JAXAshby wrote:
note the shoaling that shows up even from space. the inlet is at the
bottom,
the canal at the top

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...6784661&cpy=40.
86638711&usgs_res=14&provider_id=200&t=pan


here is one in color. note the shoaling, and the path needed to be taken
inlet
to canal

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...12&uly=4530610
.896&zone=18&res=15&provider_id=504&t=pan

another showing some of the shoaling obvious from space. zoom out if you
wish.

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...9852&cpy=40.86
489851&res=8&provider_id=320&t=pan

you may have to cut and paste if the link identifier in your newsreader doesn't
grab the whole link. if that doesn't work, go to

terraserver.com/search/coordinates_search.asp and start having fun.

jeffies has no idea what that bay looks like.

Links don't work.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Again, what's your point? Are you saying you're scared ****less to even
consider boating there? We know that already.

JAXAshby wrote:
note the shoaling that shows up even from space. the inlet is at the
bottom,
the canal at the top

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...6784661&cpy=40.
86638711&usgs_res=14&provider_id=200&t=pan


here is one in color. note the shoaling, and the path needed to be taken
inlet
to canal

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...12&uly=4530610
.896&zone=18&res=15&provider_id=504&t=pan

another showing some of the shoaling obvious from space. zoom out if you
wish.

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...9852&cpy=40.86
489851&res=8&provider_id=320&t=pan

Doug Dotson wrote:

Links don't work.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

Again, what's your point? Are you saying you're scared ****less to even
consider boating there? We know that already.

JAXAshby wrote:

note the shoaling that shows up even from space. the inlet is at the
bottom,
the canal at the top

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...6784661&cpy=40.
86638711&usgs_res=14&provider_id=200&t=pan


here is one in color. note the shoaling, and the path needed to be taken
inlet
to canal

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...12&uly=4530610
.896&zone=18&res=15&provider_id=504&t=pan

another showing some of the shoaling obvious from space. zoom out if you
wish.

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...9852&cpy=40.86
489851&res=8&provider_id=320&t=pan




The links do not work because:

"An error has occurred while attempting to display an image.

We cannot display the image you requested because one or more required
pieces of the querystring are missing.

The usgs_res variable was missing from the querystring."

In other words, Jax has no idea what a quesrystring is, nor does he know
what a variable is, nor does he know how to correct the links so that
they work.

CLUELESS about boats AND the internet! Impressive, Jax.

Every village needs an idiot. We've got JAXAshby.

try terraserver.com, if you are capable of it jimmy.

From: James
Date: 12/13/2004 1:00 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Doug Dotson wrote:

Links don't work.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

Again, what's your point? Are you saying you're scared ****less to even
consider boating there? We know that already.

JAXAshby wrote:

note the shoaling that shows up even from space. the inlet is at the
bottom,
the canal at the top

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...6784661&cpy=40.
86638711&usgs_res=14&provider_id=200&t=pan


here is one in color. note the shoaling, and the path needed to be taken
inlet
to canal

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...12&uly=4530610
.896&zone=18&res=15&provider_id=504&t=pan

another showing some of the shoaling obvious from space. zoom out if you
wish.

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...9852&cpy=40.86
489851&res=8&provider_id=320&t=pan




The links do not work because:

"An error has occurred while attempting to display an image.

We cannot display the image you requested because one or more required
pieces of the querystring are missing.

The usgs_res variable was missing from the querystring."

In other words, Jax has no idea what a quesrystring is, nor does he know
what a variable is, nor does he know how to correct the links so that
they work.

CLUELESS about boats AND the internet! Impressive, Jax.

Every village needs an idiot. We've got JAXAshby.

Try admiting that you FUCT UP, JAXAshby.

If you are CAPABLE OF IT JAX. I dare you. ADMIT you posted an error.

it's obvious that you did...even to you.

I DARE YOU to admit it!


JAXAshby wrote:

try terraserver.com, if you are capable of it jimmy.


From: James
Date: 12/13/2004 1:00 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Doug Dotson wrote:


Links don't work.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...


Again, what's your point? Are you saying you're scared ****less to even
consider boating there? We know that already.

JAXAshby wrote:


note the shoaling that shows up even from space. the inlet is at the
bottom,
the canal at the top

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...6784661&cpy=40.
86638711&usgs_res=14&provider_id=200&t=pan


here is one in color. note the shoaling, and the path needed to be taken
inlet
to canal

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...12&uly=4530610
.896&zone=18&res=15&provider_id=504&t=pan

another showing some of the shoaling obvious from space. zoom out if you
wish.

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...9852&cpy=40.86
489851&res=8&provider_id=320&t=pan



The links do not work because:

"An error has occurred while attempting to display an image.

We cannot display the image you requested because one or more required
pieces of the querystring are missing.

The usgs_res variable was missing from the querystring."

In other words, Jax has no idea what a quesrystring is, nor does he know
what a variable is, nor does he know how to correct the links so that
they work.

CLUELESS about boats AND the internet! Impressive, Jax.

Every village needs an idiot. We've got JAXAshby.

jimmy, it was you, not me, who couldn't cut and paste the site correctly. And
when I gave you the main page so you can get there yourself, you spout that it
is my fault you are lost. Should we trigger the EPIRB so the CG can come save
you?

From: James
Date: 12/13/2004 2:06 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Try admiting that you FUCT UP, JAXAshby.

If you are CAPABLE OF IT JAX. I dare you. ADMIT you posted an error.

it's obvious that you did...even to you.

I DARE YOU to admit it!


JAXAshby wrote:

try terraserver.com, if you are capable of it jimmy.


From: James
Date: 12/13/2004 1:00 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Doug Dotson wrote:


Links don't work.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...


Again, what's your point? Are you saying you're scared ****less to even
consider boating there? We know that already.

JAXAshby wrote:


note the shoaling that shows up even from space. the inlet is at the
bottom,
the canal at the top


http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...-72.46784661&c
py=40.
86638711&usgs_res=14&provider_id=200&t=pan


here is one in color. note the shoaling, and the path needed to be
taken
inlet
to canal


http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...9064.312&uly=4
530610
.896&zone=18&res=15&provider_id=504&t=pan

another showing some of the shoaling obvious from space. zoom out if you

wish.


http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...2.47369852&cpy
=40.86
489851&res=8&provider_id=320&t=pan



The links do not work because:

"An error has occurred while attempting to display an image.

We cannot display the image you requested because one or more required
pieces of the querystring are missing.

The usgs_res variable was missing from the querystring."

In other words, Jax has no idea what a quesrystring is, nor does he know
what a variable is, nor does he know how to correct the links so that
they work.

CLUELESS about boats AND the internet! Impressive, Jax.

Every village needs an idiot. We've got JAXAshby.

The whole bay was torn from a swamp in one day in The Hurricane Of 1938. It is
soft and subject to wind and wave continuously. It is considered a local
knowledge only harbor.

You're right, the shoaling shows up really clear. Looks like soon, if not
already, one will have to follow the channel to get out. Though I am a
power boater, I would guess a sailboat might be close to hitting bottom on
the shoal. Just curious, have you read anything to explain what is causing
the shoal to build up like that?

Blackbeard

Blackbeard wrote:
On 11 Dec 2004, (JAXAshby) wrote:

note the shoaling that shows up even from space. the inlet is at the bottom,
the canal at the top

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...6784661&cpy=40.
86638711&usgs_res=14&provider_id=200&t=pan


here is one in color. note the shoaling, and the path needed to be taken inlet
to canal

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...12&uly=4530610
.896&zone=18&res=15&provider_id=504&t=pan

another showing some of the shoaling obvious from space. zoom out if you wish.

http://www.terraserver.com/imagery/i...9852&cpy=40.86
489851&res=8&provider_id=320&t=pan


You're right, the shoaling shows up really clear. Looks like soon, if not
already, one will have to follow the channel to get out. Though I am a
power boater, I would guess a sailboat might be close to hitting bottom on
the shoal. Just curious, have you read anything to explain what is causing
the shoal to build up like that?

This is a well studied inlet - I'm sure you could find lots of stuff
about it. It didn't exist prior to the Hurricane of '38. There were a
number of attempts to create it prior to that, but it always wanted to
fill back in. One reason for the tide gates in the canal is maximize
the southern current out the inlet and minimize the northbound current.
(Although the gate were built before the Inlet opened, the issue was
revisited around 1950 when the gates and locks were overhauled.)

Here's a study by the Army Corps of Engineers. In spite of jaxie's
claim that the Corps says the gates are left open both ways, that's not
what they say he
http://cirp.wes.army.mil/cirp/studies.html

Here's the official NY State description of the Inlet and Canal (and locks):
http://www.nyswaterfronts.com/Final_...ap4/PART2D.pdf