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"JAXAshby" wrote in message ... now, now dougies. keep in mind it was *you* who felt that 12.8 volts was a gross inaccurate figure. you wanted more accuracy and you got it. now you feel yourself confused by all those numbers. try this, dougies, think of a 12 volt battery as putting "just a little more than " 12 volts. you will be close enough. From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom Date: 12/13/2004 9:21 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: idiot. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... you are correct, of course dougies. using 12.8 volts as the approximate voltage of a battery is just plain irresponsible. The correct number is 12.7835476589378 volts at 16.4797546429072 degrees centigrade and rel humity at 57.00004748470008%, the first number plus/minus 0.56983456, the second plus/minus 2.237899984 and the third plus/minus 40%. dougies, you powerboters who are terrified of winds above 12 knots slay me. From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom Date: 12/13/2004 8:19 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: All well spoken and right on the money. Incidently, defining AMPS as related to 12.8 volts is silly. 12.8 volt is only rarely the actual voltage supplied. Doug s/v Callista "James" wrote in message om... JAXAshby wrote: rational discussion is not possible with you, dog pile, for if one says z pickup truck is a Chevy, *you* insist there is no such thing. the closest thing is a Chevrolet utulity vehicle and everyone knows that is not the same. fumb duck you are. the rest of us, dog pile, will continue to use the common usage. From: Jeff Morris Date: 12/13/2004 10:19 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: Thanks for a good laugh, jaxie! Even when you try to "clarify" and give the "formal definition" you get it backwards! What a putz! Its gratifying to see that you have so completely devoted yourself to your craft. Every village needs an idiot, and you have perfected the art! JAXAshby wrote: follow closely, dougies, one step at time. "amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per hour at 12.8 volts". I've browsed this newsgroup for a quite while. It has been most informative.... most of the time. However, there is one thing that truly pollutes the newsgroup and renders information less than usefull. In a nutshell, has anyone else noticed that Jaxashby behaves like a sociopath without a clue here? I am being quite serious. Jax spouts off rudely, demonstrates a callous disregard for others and offers an inflated, remarkably misplaced, egocentric opinion of himself. Seems he rarely has a clue what the f#ck he is talking about either. Somebody pointed out (correctly) that Amp HOURS is a measure of battery capacity and JAX begins feels it is his mission to begin his response with the statement: "dougies, are you related to dog pile jeffies? you talk just as stew ped. Ask jeffie's wife to help you out here. follow closely, dougies, one step at time." These comments by Jax are deliberately intended to be rude and insulting right off the bat. I've noticed (as no doubt everyone else has) that virutally EVERY post that Jax makes is rude and insulting. If you gentle reader doubt that fact, go back and look. Just look at his past posts. No kidding. Seriously Jax, you need professional help. You are behaving like a sociopath. Not that you'd have the sense to seek it but you should. Here's a hint Jax... your rudeness is just a lame attempt at feeding your sad and shallow ego. Sociopaths do that all the time. Your ego is in the toilet because you are clueless and it shows. No other reason. Ask yourself why do you continually attempt to inflate your ego at the expense of others? Ever wonder why you are such a rude little M.F.? Look up Sociopath online. Seriously. Following that rude opening line Jax then adds : "amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per hour at 12.8 volts" Let's correct Jax's OBVIOUS mis-statement right here and now. AMPS in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does everywhere else. In the world of BOATING (as in every other industry) AMPS is a measure of current flow. AMPS is used when you want to know how much current is available for, or is being drawn by a device. AMP HOURS is a measure of how many AMPS can be delivered per HOUR. In other words CAPACITY. To suggest that somehow the BASICS of electrical theory and convention differ once electrical devices like batteries are deployed on boats is just plain stupid and frankly, quite irrational. To repeat for Jax: AMPS in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does everywhere else. No one in ANY industry (including boating) leaps to the foolish assumption that someone describing AMPS actually meant "Amps used per hour at 12.8 volts." To suggest otherwise demonstrates a serious lack of understanding of the basics of electricity. Someone that clueless has no business offering an opinion here Jax. Not that being clueless has ever stopped you before. It's truly a pity that a worthwhile newsgroup is infected with a dung beetle like Jax. It pollutes it, and renders it much more difficult to sift through the grabage he spews. Even filtering him doesn't help, as the responses (corrections) to his useless posts still filter through. Sad really. Fortunately everyone can see by his posts, what and who he is. This (hopefully) makes it obvious that people should ignore his bad advice. Wouldn't it be nice if Jax found a new interest and moved on to infect some other newsgroup instead? We can all dream. |
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Doug,
What is the MSRP on the Thermo-90 ? Thanks, Courtney DSK wrote: Courtney Thomas wrote: I'm told that there are at least 2 types of boat heater, both of which burn diesel; one using a blower to disperse the heat and the other heating a circulating liquid. What are the experiences of the group with both, please ? We installed a Webasto Thermo-90 coolant type heating system and are very happy with it. http://www.webasto.us/press/en/am_tr...aters_821.html The unit itself is amazingly compact, with a built in circulating pump, combustion air fan, and control circuitry. I don't know if the system overall is any more compact or easier to route than a forced air system; the water piping & it's insualtion & expansion tank along with the heat exchanger & fan, is quite bulky. With the added wiring & switches, I'm sure it's more complicated & a bigger job to install. Ours went on the aft engine room bulkhead where it is possible to access the unit for maintenance (not that it should need any) and still have it enclosed. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...42005030smuktF (plus the next two) It's extremely quiet, unless you listen for the clicking of the fuel pump, you can't tell it's running. The heat exchanger fans are not that quiet but they are not obtrusively noisy... we leave the forward heater fan running on low all night. The system heats up in about 10 minutes and is putting out good warm air in 5 ~ 6 min. The furnace unit draws between 1 and 7 AH, the fans from 0.3 to 5; so we could run the unit all night on batteries when anchored out. I see a few advantages to the coolant type system. It's a bit more efficient. The heaters can be installed in a wide variety of places... we have 5... so we can have the heat on full in the head, for example, and only a little warmth in the aft cabin. Ours is not (yet) cross-connected to the engine to run on engine heat, but I also think it would be a big advantage to be able to heat the engine up to operating temp more often over the winter. BTW the mfg'er does not recommend this cross connect as it can have flow problems not to mention air pockets or leaks that would not damage the furnace but would be disastrous for the engine. Hope this helps. Fresh Breezes Doug King -- s/v Mutiny Rhodes Bounty II lying Oriental, NC WDB5619 |
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I-D-I-O-T doesn't have any numbers in it.
"JAXAshby" wrote in message ... *I* am an idiot, dougies? how can you say that. After all, it was you who got confused by all those numbers. From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom Date: 12/13/2004 10:23 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: idiot. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... now, now dougies. keep in mind it was *you* who felt that 12.8 volts was a gross inaccurate figure. you wanted more accuracy and you got it. now you feel yourself confused by all those numbers. try this, dougies, think of a 12 volt battery as putting "just a little more than " 12 volts. you will be close enough. From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom Date: 12/13/2004 9:21 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: idiot. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... you are correct, of course dougies. using 12.8 volts as the approximate voltage of a battery is just plain irresponsible. The correct number is 12.7835476589378 volts at 16.4797546429072 degrees centigrade and rel humity at 57.00004748470008%, the first number plus/minus 0.56983456, the second plus/minus 2.237899984 and the third plus/minus 40%. dougies, you powerboters who are terrified of winds above 12 knots slay me. From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom Date: 12/13/2004 8:19 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: All well spoken and right on the money. Incidently, defining AMPS as related to 12.8 volts is silly. 12.8 volt is only rarely the actual voltage supplied. Doug s/v Callista "James" wrote in message .com... JAXAshby wrote: rational discussion is not possible with you, dog pile, for if one says z pickup truck is a Chevy, *you* insist there is no such thing. the closest thing is a Chevrolet utulity vehicle and everyone knows that is not the same. fumb duck you are. the rest of us, dog pile, will continue to use the common usage. From: Jeff Morris Date: 12/13/2004 10:19 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: Thanks for a good laugh, jaxie! Even when you try to "clarify" and give the "formal definition" you get it backwards! What a putz! Its gratifying to see that you have so completely devoted yourself to your craft. Every village needs an idiot, and you have perfected the art! JAXAshby wrote: follow closely, dougies, one step at time. "amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per hour at 12.8 volts". I've browsed this newsgroup for a quite while. It has been most informative.... most of the time. However, there is one thing that truly pollutes the newsgroup and renders information less than usefull. In a nutshell, has anyone else noticed that Jaxashby behaves like a sociopath without a clue here? I am being quite serious. Jax spouts off rudely, demonstrates a callous disregard for others and offers an inflated, remarkably misplaced, egocentric opinion of himself. Seems he rarely has a clue what the f#ck he is talking about either. Somebody pointed out (correctly) that Amp HOURS is a measure of battery capacity and JAX begins feels it is his mission to begin his response with the statement: "dougies, are you related to dog pile jeffies? you talk just as stew ped. Ask jeffie's wife to help you out here. follow closely, dougies, one step at time." These comments by Jax are deliberately intended to be rude and insulting right off the bat. I've noticed (as no doubt everyone else has) that virutally EVERY post that Jax makes is rude and insulting. If you gentle reader doubt that fact, go back and look. Just look at his past posts. No kidding. Seriously Jax, you need professional help. You are behaving like a sociopath. Not that you'd have the sense to seek it but you should. Here's a hint Jax... your rudeness is just a lame attempt at feeding your sad and shallow ego. Sociopaths do that all the time. Your ego is in the toilet because you are clueless and it shows. No other reason. Ask yourself why do you continually attempt to inflate your ego at the expense of others? Ever wonder why you are such a rude little M.F.? Look up Sociopath online. Seriously. Following that rude opening line Jax then adds : "amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per hour at 12.8 volts" Let's correct Jax's OBVIOUS mis-statement right here and now. AMPS in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does everywhere else. In the world of BOATING (as in every other industry) AMPS is a measure of current flow. AMPS is used when you want to know how much current is available for, or is being drawn by a device. AMP HOURS is a measure of how many AMPS can be delivered per HOUR. In other words CAPACITY. To suggest that somehow the BASICS of electrical theory and convention differ once electrical devices like batteries are deployed on boats is just plain stupid and frankly, quite irrational. To repeat for Jax: AMPS in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does everywhere else. No one in ANY industry (including boating) leaps to the foolish assumption that someone describing AMPS actually meant "Amps used per hour at 12.8 volts." To suggest otherwise demonstrates a serious lack of understanding of the basics of electricity. Someone that clueless has no business offering an opinion here Jax. Not that being clueless has ever stopped you before. It's truly a pity that a worthwhile newsgroup is infected with a dung beetle like Jax. It pollutes it, and renders it much more difficult to sift through the grabage he spews. Even filtering him doesn't help, as the responses (corrections) to his useless posts still filter through. Sad really. Fortunately everyone can see by his posts, what and who he is. This (hopefully) makes it obvious that people should ignore his bad advice. Wouldn't it be nice if Jax found a new interest and moved on to infect some other newsgroup instead? We can all dream. |
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but, b - a - t - t - e - r - y v - o - l - t - a - g - e does. check it
out, dougies. it really is that way. From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom Date: 12/13/2004 11:03 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: I-D-I-O-T doesn't have any numbers in it. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... *I* am an idiot, dougies? how can you say that. After all, it was you who got confused by all those numbers. From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom Date: 12/13/2004 10:23 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: idiot. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... now, now dougies. keep in mind it was *you* who felt that 12.8 volts was a gross inaccurate figure. you wanted more accuracy and you got it. now you feel yourself confused by all those numbers. try this, dougies, think of a 12 volt battery as putting "just a little more than " 12 volts. you will be close enough. From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom Date: 12/13/2004 9:21 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: idiot. "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... you are correct, of course dougies. using 12.8 volts as the approximate voltage of a battery is just plain irresponsible. The correct number is 12.7835476589378 volts at 16.4797546429072 degrees centigrade and rel humity at 57.00004748470008%, the first number plus/minus 0.56983456, the second plus/minus 2.237899984 and the third plus/minus 40%. dougies, you powerboters who are terrified of winds above 12 knots slay me. From: "Doug Dotson" AMcom Date: 12/13/2004 8:19 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: All well spoken and right on the money. Incidently, defining AMPS as related to 12.8 volts is silly. 12.8 volt is only rarely the actual voltage supplied. Doug s/v Callista "James" wrote in message l.com... JAXAshby wrote: rational discussion is not possible with you, dog pile, for if one says z pickup truck is a Chevy, *you* insist there is no such thing. the closest thing is a Chevrolet utulity vehicle and everyone knows that is not the same. fumb duck you are. the rest of us, dog pile, will continue to use the common usage. From: Jeff Morris Date: 12/13/2004 10:19 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: Thanks for a good laugh, jaxie! Even when you try to "clarify" and give the "formal definition" you get it backwards! What a putz! Its gratifying to see that you have so completely devoted yourself to your craft. Every village needs an idiot, and you have perfected the art! JAXAshby wrote: follow closely, dougies, one step at time. "amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per hour at 12.8 volts". I've browsed this newsgroup for a quite while. It has been most informative.... most of the time. However, there is one thing that truly pollutes the newsgroup and renders information less than usefull. In a nutshell, has anyone else noticed that Jaxashby behaves like a sociopath without a clue here? I am being quite serious. Jax spouts off rudely, demonstrates a callous disregard for others and offers an inflated, remarkably misplaced, egocentric opinion of himself. Seems he rarely has a clue what the f#ck he is talking about either. Somebody pointed out (correctly) that Amp HOURS is a measure of battery capacity and JAX begins feels it is his mission to begin his response with the statement: "dougies, are you related to dog pile jeffies? you talk just as stew ped. Ask jeffie's wife to help you out here. follow closely, dougies, one step at time." These comments by Jax are deliberately intended to be rude and insulting right off the bat. I've noticed (as no doubt everyone else has) that virutally EVERY post that Jax makes is rude and insulting. If you gentle reader doubt that fact, go back and look. Just look at his past posts. No kidding. Seriously Jax, you need professional help. You are behaving like a sociopath. Not that you'd have the sense to seek it but you should. Here's a hint Jax... your rudeness is just a lame attempt at feeding your sad and shallow ego. Sociopaths do that all the time. Your ego is in the toilet because you are clueless and it shows. No other reason. Ask yourself why do you continually attempt to inflate your ego at the expense of others? Ever wonder why you are such a rude little M.F.? Look up Sociopath online. Seriously. Following that rude opening line Jax then adds : "amps" when used in the context of boating means "amps used per hour at 12.8 volts" Let's correct Jax's OBVIOUS mis-statement right here and now. AMPS in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does everywhere else. In the world of BOATING (as in every other industry) AMPS is a measure of current flow. AMPS is used when you want to know how much current is available for, or is being drawn by a device. AMP HOURS is a measure of how many AMPS can be delivered per HOUR. In other words CAPACITY. To suggest that somehow the BASICS of electrical theory and convention differ once electrical devices like batteries are deployed on boats is just plain stupid and frankly, quite irrational. To repeat for Jax: AMPS in the context of boating means AMPS JAX, just like it does everywhere else. No one in ANY industry (including boating) leaps to the foolish assumption that someone describing AMPS actually meant "Amps used per hour at 12.8 volts." To suggest otherwise demonstrates a serious lack of understanding of the basics of electricity. Someone that clueless has no business offering an opinion here Jax. Not that being clueless has ever stopped you before. It's truly a pity that a worthwhile newsgroup is infected with a dung beetle like Jax. It pollutes it, and renders it much more difficult to sift through the grabage he spews. Even filtering him doesn't help, as the responses (corrections) to his useless posts still filter through. Sad really. Fortunately everyone can see by his posts, what and who he is. This (hopefully) makes it obvious that people should ignore his bad advice. Wouldn't it be nice if Jax found a new interest and moved on to infect some other newsgroup instead? We can all dream. |
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JAX, by your own words "to be remain ignorant one merely has to not listen"
You must be a very ignorant person...you listen to no one. Eric "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... geof will not read this, but the essence of what he says is that should one want to remain ignorant one merely has to not listen. works for him. From: Geoff Schultz Date: 12/13/2004 12:56 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: As I've stated before, simply use your kill file to automatically delete posts from people that you don't want to read. If other people didn't quote his posts in their replies, it would work great. It would be even better if people didn't reply to his posts as it only feeds him. The real problem is that the articles degrade into a juvenile, name calling brawl and become devoid of content. If I wanted that level of discussion, I would read alt.sailing.asa. So, if you don't know what a kill file is, or how to use one, read up on it and use it! -- Geoff |
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![]() A quick search of some shops here indicates that the cost is approximately 1300$ these days. I don't know of the availability of Walls products outside scandinavia, though. -- C++: The power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade. |
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Just another note: this particular model runs on kerosene, not diesel.
-- C++: The power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade. |
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![]() Welcome to our resident troll.... -- C++: The power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade. |
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eric, care to make note of anyone I killfile?
you have no value in the grand scheme of things, but even you I do not killfile, in the hopes that somewhere, somehow, sometime you _might_ say something of value. It is a long shot, but what the hell, I take it. From: "Eric Currier" Date: 12/14/2004 1:49 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: p1wvd.115502$tU4.26796@okepread06 JAX, by your own words "to be remain ignorant one merely has to not listen" You must be a very ignorant person...you listen to no one. Eric "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... geof will not read this, but the essence of what he says is that should one want to remain ignorant one merely has to not listen. works for him. From: Geoff Schultz Date: 12/13/2004 12:56 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: As I've stated before, simply use your kill file to automatically delete posts from people that you don't want to read. If other people didn't quote his posts in their replies, it would work great. It would be even better if people didn't reply to his posts as it only feeds him. The real problem is that the articles degrade into a juvenile, name calling brawl and become devoid of content. If I wanted that level of discussion, I would read alt.sailing.asa. So, if you don't know what a kill file is, or how to use one, read up on it and use it! -- Geoff |
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