oh, oh. This is usually an indication that the unit has small, easily plugged
up holes in its burner.

Just another note: this particular model runs on kerosene, not diesel.

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What kind of holes are you talking about? This is a pot burner.

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so, why kero? fuel oil is cheaper and more readily available. also has
slightly more heat capacity.

What kind of holes are you talking about? This is a pot burner.

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"J" == JAXAshby writes:

J so, why kero? fuel oil is cheaper and more readily available. also has
J slightly more heat capacity.

What kind of holes are you talking about? This is a pot burner.

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Don't know, possibly the intended market, which is small sailboats,
often without a diesel engine. If you are really interested, you can
always ask the maker,

http://www.wallas.fi


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Courtney Thomas wrote:
Doug,

What is the MSRP on the Thermo-90 ?

Depends tremendously on where you get it & what you get with it. We got
a kit from a supply house in the midwest. All told the system cost us
about $4k by the time it was done; although I did not spend money
frivolously I think it would be possible to cut that by a respectable sum.

If you're down in Oriental, you should stop by some time and check out
the installation. We're at Northwest Creek down from New Bern. You'd be
welcome just for a friendly visit.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

To you guys who have these heaters, how big are your boats? Would a
system like these be better than a radiant heater (Dickenson or Sigmar
for example) on a 30' boat? Or would the added complexity outweigh any
added benefit?

Thanks

Cindy

Cindy Ballreich wrote:
To you guys who have these heaters, how big are your boats? Would a
system like these be better than a radiant heater (Dickenson or Sigmar
for example) on a 30' boat? Or would the added complexity outweigh any
added benefit?


Our boat is a 36' tug. Three seperate cabins plus a big head
compartment, which I specifically wanted HEAT in. A *real* cruiser
probably doesn't mind taking a shower with ice cubes, but I'm not that
tough!

For a 30' sailboat I think one of the radiant types would be plenty. I'd
consider routing the exhaust pipe through the head, too ;)

Another simple option is to add a bus heater to your engine. This is
very simple: a y-valve on the coolant loop between the water heater &
engine, a big radiator-type heat exchanger, and a fan. This will heat up
the cabin marvelously, but only when the engine is running. Cost about
$200, no holes to cut in the cabin top.

For all too short a while, I owned & cruised in a an old wooden racing
sloop from the 1930s. It had a Shipmate Skippy coal stove... cute and
very effective. Of course they don't make it any more, and coal (I used
self-lighting charcoal briquets) is nowhere near as convenient as diesel
or propane. But that warm old-timey atmosphere is cozy....

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

The smallest model of Espar would probably be a good fit for a
30' boat if you have the room to mount it, run the ductwork, intake,
exhaust, etc. I would think a small bulkhead mounted like the Dickinson
or a Force 10 may be a better choice. We had a Force 10 on our old
C&C 36 and it worked pretty well.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cindy Ballreich" wrote in message
. com...
To you guys who have these heaters, how big are your boats? Would a system
like these be better than a radiant heater (Dickenson or Sigmar for
example) on a 30' boat? Or would the added complexity outweigh any added
benefit?

Thanks

Cindy

Doug,

Thanks for the invitation. I'd like to come by. I'm not in Oriental at
the moment but will be over the holidays.

How do I find you ? I don't know NW Ck.'s location.

Do you live aboard ? If not, how do I find you when I get there ?

My cell is 678 478-0425 but it doesn't work in Oriental but may in New
Bern. My email is .

Which boat ?

I just bought an Espar but may it use it for the house rather than the
boat :-) so....I'm still considering which system for the boat.

Cordially,
Courtney



DSK wrote:

Courtney Thomas wrote:

Doug,

What is the MSRP on the Thermo-90 ?


Depends tremendously on where you get it & what you get with it. We got
a kit from a supply house in the midwest. All told the system cost us
about $4k by the time it was done; although I did not spend money
frivolously I think it would be possible to cut that by a respectable sum.

If you're down in Oriental, you should stop by some time and check out
the installation. We're at Northwest Creek down from New Bern. You'd be
welcome just for a friendly visit.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



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Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619

Cindy Ballreich wrote:
To you guys who have these heaters, how big are your boats? Would a system
like these be better than a radiant heater (Dickenson or Sigmar for
example) on a 30' boat? Or would the added complexity outweigh any added
benefit?


With a Dickenson Newport I was able to keep my C&C 37 plenty warm at below
zero temperatures (centigrade that is, maybe -10-15F). I don't really think
you need a forced air system in a 30' boat although it would be nice.
Simpler to use but quite a bit more expensive. I wouldn't say they are all
that complex to install but maintenance/servicing would be.
For occasional heating I think I would go with a bulkhead mounted propane
heater. Easy to use and very clean. No soot on the deck or needing removal
from the unit. If you are planning for continuous use over many days I
would go for a diesel unit. Keep in mind you will need to locate a day tank
above it to gravity feed fuel or else use an electric pump from your main
fuel tank (my choice).

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Cindy Ballreich wrote:
To you guys who have these heaters, how big are your boats? Would a
system like these be better than a radiant heater (Dickenson or Sigmar
for example) on a 30' boat? Or would the added complexity outweigh any
added benefit?


Our boat is a 36' tug. Three seperate cabins plus a big head compartment,
which I specifically wanted HEAT in. A *real* cruiser probably doesn't
mind taking a shower with ice cubes, but I'm not that tough!

For a 30' sailboat I think one of the radiant types would be plenty. I'd
consider routing the exhaust pipe through the head, too ;)

Another simple option is to add a bus heater to your engine. This is very
simple: a y-valve on the coolant loop between the water heater & engine, a
big radiator-type heat exchanger, and a fan. This will heat up the cabin
marvelously, but only when the engine is running. Cost about $200, no
holes to cut in the cabin top.

For all too short a while, I owned & cruised in a an old wooden racing
sloop from the 1930s. It had a Shipmate Skippy coal stove... cute and very
effective. Of course they don't make it any more, and coal (I used
self-lighting charcoal briquets) is nowhere near as convenient as diesel
or propane. But that warm old-timey atmosphere is cozy....

Fresh Breezes- Doug King