JAXAshby wrote:
and
because the water is shallow in the bay and the channel is too winding for

you

to follow.

Yes - very shallow. Not like the shallow water we had in Florida Bay.


really? Florida Bay is more shallow? How shallow is that, jeffies? Keep in
mind, jeffies, that the dredged channel from the Shinnecock canal to the ocean
outlet is often less than six feet. That is the dredged channel, you fumb
duck. The water either side is often less.

jeffies, attempting rational discussion with you is like attempting same with a
dog pile.

Jaxie, you've just shown us yet another area where you are completely
ignorant. There are large areas of Florida Bay less than 3 feet deep.
The "inside" ICW has long stretches where the "channel" is 5 feet or less.

Shinnecock Bay is "deep water" by comparison. The channel is mostly
straight, with more than a dozen marks in its three miles. The inlet
may be subject to shoaling, but that's not uncommon. Its no surprise
that this is what you think is challenging!

The "inside" ICW has long stretches where the "channel" is 5 feet or less.

The controling depth of the ICW channel is 12 feet. When any spot shallows to
less than 12 feet, the channel is dredged, assuming funds (that means money,
jeffies) are available.

JAXAshby wrote:
The "inside" ICW has long stretches where the "channel" is 5 feet or less.


The controling depth of the ICW channel is 12 feet. When any spot shallows to
less than 12 feet, the channel is dredged, assuming funds (that means money,
jeffies) are available.

You really don't know what you're talking about, do you Jaxie? First
of all, the "controlling depth" goes from 12 feet to 10 feet at Fort
Pierce, Florida. At Miami, it drops down to 7 feet. After Key Largo 5
feet is common. After Marathon the bayside channel sort of ends - its 2
to 3 feet much of the rest of the way to Key West and almost all boats
switch over to the outside channel there. (We won't even get into the
fact that much of the ICW hasn't been close to its "controlling depth"
in decades.) And of course the trip down the inside channel had no
meaning if you don't explore the numerous shallow bays and coves that
are off limits to boats the draw over 3 feet and inexperienced sailors
like you.


And we're talking about a total of 150 miles from Miami to Key West, not
a little channel a couple of miles long. Florida Bay is is about 100
times larger than Shinnecock Bay, and far more challenging.

dog pile, read these words:

"The authorized depth of the ICW is 12ft but funding and budgetary cuts ..."

just as I said.

http://ccc.sailnet.com/newslt2.htm

or these words, dog pile

"The authorized project depth of the AIWW is 12 ft (at low tide) from Norfolk,
VA to Ft. Pierce, FL and 10 feet from Ft. Pierce to Miami. ..."

http://www.atlintracoastal.org/WW_Facts.htm

Jaxie, do you know where Florida Bay is? Obviously not! I even stated
the depth all the way to Key West. You're just repeating what I said,
but ignoring the important part - that Florida Bay is just as shallow as
your little puddle and 100 times larger.

Doesn't it ever embarrass you to show such stupidity?


JAXAshby wrote:
dog pile, read these words:

"The authorized depth of the ICW is 12ft but funding and budgetary cuts ..."

just as I said.

http://ccc.sailnet.com/newslt2.htm

or these words, dog pile

"The authorized project depth of the AIWW is 12 ft (at low tide) from Norfolk,
VA to Ft. Pierce, FL and 10 feet from Ft. Pierce to Miami. ..."

http://www.atlintracoastal.org/WW_Facts.htm

Shinnecock Bay is "deep water" by comparison.

you have never been there, jeffies. If you had, you would know better that to
try to tell use that a sailboat can travel much or most or even a great deal of
that bay.

The channel is mostly
straight,

huh? "most straight"? are you on drugs, jeffies?

JAXAshby wrote:
The channel is mostly
straight,


huh? "most straight"? are you on drugs, jeffies?
The channel to the inlet is three straight lines, well marked. If you
consider this a navigational challenge, you should retake that Power
Squadron course you dropped out of.

huh? "most straight"? are you on drugs, jeffies?
The channel to the inlet is three straight lines, well marked. If you
consider this a navigational challenge, you should retake that Power
Squadron course you dropped out of.

here is what the inlet looked like in October 99, last pic I found without
working at it.

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...91006_comp.jpg

october 98

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...mg=shin_981017
..jpg&inlet=Shinnecock&state=New+York&date=1998-10-17

may 97

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...mg=shin_970422
_comp.jpg&inlet=Shinnecock&state=New+York&date=199 7-04-22

ten days earlier

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...mg=shin_970410
_comp.jpg&inlet=Shinnecock&state=New+York&date=199 7-04-10

1996

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...mg=shin_961024
_comp.jpg&inlet=Shinnecock&state=New+York&date=199 6-10-24

1989

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...mg=shin_890322
_comp.jpg&inlet=Shinnecock&state=New+York&date=198 9-03-22

1980

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...mg=shin_800324
_comp.jpg&inlet=Shinnecock&state=New+York&date=198 0-03-24

What's your point? Are you trying to prove you know something about the
water? Nobody is buying it!



JAXAshby wrote:
huh? "most straight"? are you on drugs, jeffies?

The channel to the inlet is three straight lines, well marked. If you
consider this a navigational challenge, you should retake that Power
Squadron course you dropped out of.


here is what the inlet looked like in October 99, last pic I found without
working at it.

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...91006_comp.jpg

october 98

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...mg=shin_981017
.jpg&inlet=Shinnecock&state=New+York&date=1998-10-17

may 97

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...mg=shin_970422
_comp.jpg&inlet=Shinnecock&state=New+York&date=199 7-04-22

ten days earlier

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...mg=shin_970410
_comp.jpg&inlet=Shinnecock&state=New+York&date=199 7-04-10

1996

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...mg=shin_961024
_comp.jpg&inlet=Shinnecock&state=New+York&date=199 6-10-24

1989

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...mg=shin_890322
_comp.jpg&inlet=Shinnecock&state=New+York&date=198 9-03-22

1980

http://www.oceanscience.net/inletson...mg=shin_800324
_comp.jpg&inlet=Shinnecock&state=New+York&date=198 0-03-24