JAXAshby wrote:
I am leaving Sunday for offshore. stories of horrendous 8 knot winds and
brutal 3 foot waves to follow.


Bridgeport to Milford?

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The conservative religious and social structure that he defied hated and
crucified him. They examined His life and did not like what they saw. He
aligned himself with the poor and the oppressed. He challenged the
religious orthodoxy of his day. He advocated pacifism and loving our
enemies. He liberated women and minorities from oppression. He healed on
the Sabbath and forgave adulterers and prostitutes. He associated with
drunks and other social outcasts. He rebuked the religious right of his
day because they embraced the letter of the law instead of the Spirit.
He loved sinners and called them to himself. Jesus was the original
Liberal. He was a progressive, and he was judged and hated for it. It
was the self-righteous religionists that he rebuked and he called them
hypocrites.

The primary issues of Christian Liberalism were birthed when Jesus spoke
the profoundly prophetic words found in Matthew 25: 31-46. These
scriptures reveal God's heart for the poor, the sick and other neglected
people through out history. Christians should read this text and judge
for themselves which of the two groups mentioned there more accurately
reflect the political parties of today. His Liberalism lives on today
and the issues have not changed much.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 07:25:38 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JAx has a clapped-out old 26' sailbote best suited for nice Sunday
afternoons on Long Island Sound.

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I think I've seen that boat.

It looked like there were a couple of plastic inflatable dolls in the
cockpit with a half crazed skipper.

Next thing you know Jax will tell us that Long Island Sound *IS* blue
water sailing.


Well, it was for me...when I was 10, 11, and 12 years old, sailing Blue
Jays out of Milford Harbor.

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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:05:58 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 07:25:38 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JAx has a clapped-out old 26' sailbote best suited for nice Sunday
afternoons on Long Island Sound.

==================================

I think I've seen that boat.

It looked like there were a couple of plastic inflatable dolls in the
cockpit with a half crazed skipper.

Next thing you know Jax will tell us that Long Island Sound *IS* blue
water sailing.


Well, it was for me...when I was 10, 11, and 12 years old, sailing Blue
Jays out of Milford Harbor.

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My kids sailed a Blue Jay out of Stamford and were club champions for
several years. We bought the boat as a junker, took it apart, rebuilt
it in the backyard as an educational project and repainted it. It
looked great and even the kids said it was fast.

hoary, that ain't hardly ESE. check your charts.

From: Harry Krause
Date: 10/22/2004 9:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

JAXAshby wrote:
I am leaving Sunday for offshore. stories of horrendous 8 knot winds and
brutal 3 foot waves to follow.


Bridgeport to Milford?

--
Jesus was the ultimate liberal progressive revolutionary of all history.
The conservative religious and social structure that he defied hated and
crucified him. They examined His life and did not like what they saw. He
aligned himself with the poor and the oppressed. He challenged the
religious orthodoxy of his day. He advocated pacifism and loving our
enemies. He liberated women and minorities from oppression. He healed on
the Sabbath and forgave adulterers and prostitutes. He associated with
drunks and other social outcasts. He rebuked the religious right of his
day because they embraced the letter of the law instead of the Spirit.
He loved sinners and called them to himself. Jesus was the original
Liberal. He was a progressive, and he was judged and hated for it. It
was the self-righteous religionists that he rebuked and he called them
hypocrites.

The primary issues of Christian Liberalism were birthed when Jesus spoke
the profoundly prophetic words found in Matthew 25: 31-46. These
scriptures reveal God's heart for the poor, the sick and other neglected
people through out history. Christians should read this text and judge
for themselves which of the two groups mentioned there more accurately
reflect the political parties of today. His Liberalism lives on today
and the issues have not changed much.

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:14:53 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:48:46 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote

If you like being on and around the water, and cruising to different
places, there's little difference whether you do it by sail or
power.

Wha???
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I know, I know, heresy, heresy...

Not really, to judge by the number of sailors in their late '50s and
early '60s who start to drool over trawlers at boat shows.

I think a slow-turning trawler (8 knots or so max. speed, but with
1,500 nm range) is a good compromise unless you can find a true
motorsailer that can still actually sail.

Not for me, but I have no problems with former sailboaters moving into
power, particularly if they are respectful of their former wind-borne
colleagues. It's usually the assholes in the speedboats that send
their wake across your foredeck, anyway. Those guys are beyond reason.

R.

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:38:35 -0400, rhys wrote:

Not really, to judge by the number of sailors in their late '50s and
early '60s who start to drool over trawlers at boat shows.

I think a slow-turning trawler (8 knots or so max. speed, but with
1,500 nm range) is a good compromise

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Hope so, just bought one. :-) Actually it's a bit faster but can be
throttled back for close to that kind of range. We looked at a few
motorsailers but didn't really find anything we liked. Our former
Bertram was no long range cruiser but it sure did spoil us for
creature comforts and roomy living.

In article ,
(Parallax) wrote:

By happy and fortuitous circumstance, I suddenly find that not only am
I financially able to do the cruising I want, but my personal life has
fallen into place with my 17 yr old daughter seeming to be cured of
melanoma. So why am I suddenly not looking forward to it? We had a
great day of sailing on Sunday. The short hops will not involve too
much time away from family or work so what is it? Is it possible that
the work toward achieving it is better than the actual doing it?
I've done a little cruising in the past so I know the stress at night
of worrying "Is my anchor dragging" whereas home in bed that never
crosses your mind. I know the "God, am I bored" during
loooooooooooong days of very light wind followed by the "Omigod, what
am I doing here" fear at night with wind that is probably less than I
imagine it to be. Is it possible that the last 9 years of starting
and running a small business has stressed me so much I just want to
relax? Regardless of that Christopher Cross song "Sailing", we all
know sailing is NOT relaxing. People have asked me what I like about
sailing and I always tell them that for me its about problem solving,
not relaxing.
Does anybody else have such odd thoughts before a cruise?

If you don't have some second thoughts each time you try something new,
I think you'd be dangerous to yourself and others.

First time; first "solo"; first squall; first anchoring; first week out;
first overnight sail; first ICW... Each caused us to pause as we
planned. Each experience exceeded our expectations, including the times
we were truly in the wrong place at the wrong time and had to exercise
our alternate plans.

Once you're fairly comfortable that you've solved --and practiced-- the
likely problems, you'll be able to relax more. Engine's dead, winds are
up about 30, you have too much sail up, and have to do 3 quick gybes to
get into the anchorage? No problem, if you've practiced.

Just remember that cruising isn't about getting a particular place fast.
Giving yourself a few extra days and "escape holes" for whatever reason
can change a brutal charge into the unknown into a joyous romp.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
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jax lives in a trailer. a small trailer.

hey jax, you need someone to help you take those tires off the trailer?

That's his flotation!

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Keith
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hey jax, you need someone to help you take those tires off the trailer?