jim a crossbow of long ago would so easily go through metal armor of the time
at a distance of up to 30 feet, that a pope outlawed the use of crossbows
except against the infidels. the pope did not outlaw longbows.

Last time I used a crossbow,

the kiddie toys sold as crossbows today have draws similar to less
than kiddie longbows sold today. The weapons of war crossbows of old
were something else.

it took maybe 10 seconds to load
and shoot. Maybe he was thinking of a catapault :




Actually, a modern crossbow, with the fiberglas or composite prod,
compares rather favourably with the medieval type. The higher grade
metals used on the trigger system allow a higher pull weight, and the
draw is longer also, increasing the energy imparted to the projectile.
While many of the medieval style crossbows had pulls in excess of
200lbs, they also had short draws, often as little as 6 inches, due to
the nature of the prod (whalebone, horn, sometimes metal, although
good spring steel was not easy to make with the techniques known at the
time)

A modern hunting crossbow, with a draw weight of 150-175lbs, and a draw
of 12-14 inches, is actually more powerful than the older style.

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Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
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On 14 Oct 2004 12:36:57 GMT,
JAXAshby wrote:
jim a crossbow of long ago would so easily go through metal armor of
the time at a distance of up to 30 feet, that a pope outlawed the use
of crossbows except against the infidels. the pope did not outlaw
longbows.


Finally, some accurate facts from you. But again, only half the story.

Yes, a bodkin point would penetrate mail at 30ft, and at 30 yards, and
some distance beyond. Yes, pope Innocent II declared the crossbow
"ateful to God and unfit for Christians." sometime in the 12th centyury.
What you seem to miss, is that he did so, because the crossbow leveled
the field wrt the armoured knight. Allowing any peasant to kill an
expensively trained and armoured knight.




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Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Ahhh... I see the ****-up fairy has visited us again.