Fwd escape w/ dingy on fore deck??
 

In preperation for winter at the dock, I hoisted my 9.5' inflatable
onboard for the first time. It fits nicely, upside down, a couple feet
forward of the mast, only extends about a foot over the end of the cabin
truck. Still plenty of working/sail handling room at the mast and on the
foredeck. The cabin grab rails provide excellment tie downs. If I go
sailing or on future cruises, I will find a way to incorporate grab
lines into the dingy tie down arrangement.

Now for the downside: The dingy is over my secondary escape hatch (and
sail handling hatch). I intentionally installed this large hatch for
this primary and secondary purpose.

The hatches in the main cabin are too small for an adult and are really
just sky lights.

I'm trying to figure out a method or tie down "harness" arrangenmet
where I could open the fwd hatch (yes, it does open about 10" into the
dingy) and just pull a simple release knot or toggle so the dingy could
be 'cast aside' for emergency escape.

How do others deal with the dingy blocking the fwd hatch situation???

Steve

s/v Good Intentions

Subject: Fwd escape w/ dingy on fore deck??
From: Steve

How do others deal with the dingy blocking the fwd hatch situation???

Chainsaw.

Capt. Bill

Bungee cords?

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"Steve" wrote in message
...
In preperation for winter at the dock, I hoisted my 9.5' inflatable
onboard for the first time. It fits nicely, upside down, a couple feet
forward of the mast, only extends about a foot over the end of the cabin
truck. Still plenty of working/sail handling room at the mast and on the
foredeck. The cabin grab rails provide excellment tie downs. If I go
sailing or on future cruises, I will find a way to incorporate grab lines
into the dingy tie down arrangement.

Now for the downside: The dingy is over my secondary escape hatch (and
sail handling hatch). I intentionally installed this large hatch for this
primary and secondary purpose.

The hatches in the main cabin are too small for an adult and are really
just sky lights.

I'm trying to figure out a method or tie down "harness" arrangenmet where
I could open the fwd hatch (yes, it does open about 10" into the dingy)
and just pull a simple release knot or toggle so the dingy could be 'cast
aside' for emergency escape.

How do others deal with the dingy blocking the fwd hatch situation???

Steve

s/v Good Intentions

Did I miss something? Unless this is a rib, how about deflating it and
storing it in a bag?

Steve wrote:

In preperation for winter at the dock, I hoisted my 9.5' inflatable
onboard for the first time. It fits nicely, upside down, a couple feet
forward of the mast, only extends about a foot over the end of the cabin
truck. Still plenty of working/sail handling room at the mast and on the
foredeck. The cabin grab rails provide excellment tie downs. If I go
sailing or on future cruises, I will find a way to incorporate grab
lines into the dingy tie down arrangement.

Now for the downside: The dingy is over my secondary escape hatch (and
sail handling hatch). I intentionally installed this large hatch for
this primary and secondary purpose.

The hatches in the main cabin are too small for an adult and are really
just sky lights.

I'm trying to figure out a method or tie down "harness" arrangenmet
where I could open the fwd hatch (yes, it does open about 10" into the
dingy) and just pull a simple release knot or toggle so the dingy could
be 'cast aside' for emergency escape.

How do others deal with the dingy blocking the fwd hatch situation???

Steve

s/v Good Intentions

SOunds like a poor arrangement. Only one escape hatch all the
way forward is not good. What are you trying to esacape from?
What is wrong with the companionway?

Doug
s/v Callista

"Steve" wrote in message
...
In preperation for winter at the dock, I hoisted my 9.5' inflatable
onboard for the first time. It fits nicely, upside down, a couple feet
forward of the mast, only extends about a foot over the end of the cabin
truck. Still plenty of working/sail handling room at the mast and on the
foredeck. The cabin grab rails provide excellment tie downs. If I go
sailing or on future cruises, I will find a way to incorporate grab lines
into the dingy tie down arrangement.

Now for the downside: The dingy is over my secondary escape hatch (and
sail handling hatch). I intentionally installed this large hatch for this
primary and secondary purpose.

The hatches in the main cabin are too small for an adult and are really
just sky lights.

I'm trying to figure out a method or tie down "harness" arrangenmet where
I could open the fwd hatch (yes, it does open about 10" into the dingy)
and just pull a simple release knot or toggle so the dingy could be 'cast
aside' for emergency escape.

How do others deal with the dingy blocking the fwd hatch situation???

Steve

s/v Good Intentions

The companionway hatch is the primary routine and emergency exit
AFT and the FWD hatch is primarily for sail bags but I did make it big
enough for the largest cew member to escape through should there be an
engine or galley fire. (It is a Bowmar and I ordered it with hatch dogs
that could be operated from outside as well as inside. However it can
also be locked from the inside for dock side security.)

In response the earlier recommendations: The dingy is a ordinary
inflateable (non-RIB) but has a simi-rigid, sectional floor and still
takes up some storage space when deflated. The last time I "rolled" it
up the special "inflateable" anti foul paint caused major staining where
it contacted the inflateables topside fabric.

The total inflateable w/transom and floor boards just doesn't fit into
any reasonable bag. Much easier to stow on deck and let enough air out
so it doesn't block the view of the helmsman.

I'm really looking at this as an ultimate way to short range cruise in
local water and have the dingy ready to launch on short notice or in
each anchorage. I also plan to do some winter sailing and want the dink
available.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Dingy davits on the stern!
krj

Steve wrote:
The companionway hatch is the primary routine and emergency exit
AFT and the FWD hatch is primarily for sail bags but I did make it big
enough for the largest cew member to escape through should there be an
engine or galley fire. (It is a Bowmar and I ordered it with hatch dogs
that could be operated from outside as well as inside. However it can
also be locked from the inside for dock side security.)

In response the earlier recommendations: The dingy is a ordinary
inflateable (non-RIB) but has a simi-rigid, sectional floor and still
takes up some storage space when deflated. The last time I "rolled" it
up the special "inflateable" anti foul paint caused major staining where
it contacted the inflateables topside fabric.

The total inflateable w/transom and floor boards just doesn't fit into
any reasonable bag. Much easier to stow on deck and let enough air out
so it doesn't block the view of the helmsman.

I'm really looking at this as an ultimate way to short range cruise in
local water and have the dingy ready to launch on short notice or in
each anchorage. I also plan to do some winter sailing and want the dink
available.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

"krj" wrote in message
. ..
Dingy davits on the stern!
krj



Double Ender!! With outboard rudder. More specifically an "Ingrid 38"

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:24:22 -0700, Steve wrote:

I'm really looking at this as an ultimate way to short range cruise in
local water and have the dingy ready to launch on short notice or in
each anchorage. I also plan to do some winter sailing and want the dink
available.

==========================

For short term storage at anchor you might be able to store it on edge
near the lifelines (perhaps with the help of a halyard). I've also
seen a few people haul them up vertically next to the mast. You could
also use a halyard to suspend it over the water with one edge fastened
to the lifelines or deck. Under sail though I'd just invert in on the
foredeck and forget about using the forward hatch. If your boat is
large enough you could always use stern davits of course.

Subject: Fwd escape w/ dingy on fore deck??
From: Steve

I'm really looking at this as an ultimate way to short range cruise in
local water and have the dingy ready to launch on short notice or in
each anchorage. I also plan to do some winter sailing and want the dink
available.

Tow it or pull it backwards with the stern tubes up high on the transom with
only the bow in the water.

Capt. Bill

Tow it or pull it backwards with the stern tubes up high on the transom
with
only the bow in the water.

Capt. Bill

I used that method on my last boat since it had transom stern and no
windvane, etc. Worked great. However as stated earlier, I have a double
ender with outboard rudder and a windvane.

One method I have found, for towing, that has worked well, is to tow the
inflateable alongside, back under the stern quarter. The dingy "surfs" on
the boats quarterwave. There is seems to be very little strain on the bow
painter and the dingy rides and beheives much better than when towed astern.
Since the boat is a double ender, when sailing the dingy doesn't interfer
when I am sailing hard with the 'rail down'.

I suggest that others with a double ender try this method. Really seems to
work well for me in relatively protected water and coastal
sailing/motorsailing.

My opinion, FWIW.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Wayne.B wrote in message . ..
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:24:22 -0700, Steve wrote:

I'm really looking at this as an ultimate way to short range cruise in
local water and have the dingy ready to launch on short notice or in
each anchorage. I also plan to do some winter sailing and want the dink
available.

==========================

For short term storage at anchor you might be able to store it on edge
near the lifelines (perhaps with the help of a halyard). I've also
seen a few people haul them up vertically next to the mast. You could
also use a halyard to suspend it over the water with one edge fastened
to the lifelines or deck. Under sail though I'd just invert in on the
foredeck and forget about using the forward hatch. If your boat is
large enough you could always use stern davits of course.

I have also considered this problem when carrying my hard dinghy on
my foredeck. The solution is to keep a knife on you at all times and
then if necessary, partially open the hatch and cut through the rope
holding the dinghy to the hand rails. You also might consider tying
it to one rail so it is easily untied from inside through the
partially opened hatch.
I am building a nesting dinghy that should fit just aft of my mast on
my 28' S2.

Dingy davits are worthless (and dangerous) offshore. Mounting
then on a double-ender with self-steering is pretty much
impossible.

Doug
s/v Callista

"krj" wrote in message
. ..
Dingy davits on the stern!
krj

Steve wrote:
The companionway hatch is the primary routine and emergency exit
AFT and the FWD hatch is primarily for sail bags but I did make it big
enough for the largest cew member to escape through should there be an
engine or galley fire. (It is a Bowmar and I ordered it with hatch dogs
that could be operated from outside as well as inside. However it can
also be locked from the inside for dock side security.)

In response the earlier recommendations: The dingy is a ordinary
inflateable (non-RIB) but has a simi-rigid, sectional floor and still
takes up some storage space when deflated. The last time I "rolled" it up
the special "inflateable" anti foul paint caused major staining where it
contacted the inflateables topside fabric.

The total inflateable w/transom and floor boards just doesn't fit into
any reasonable bag. Much easier to stow on deck and let enough air out so
it doesn't block the view of the helmsman.

I'm really looking at this as an ultimate way to short range cruise in
local water and have the dingy ready to launch on short notice or in each
anchorage. I also plan to do some winter sailing and want the dink
available.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions